We gotta have a discussion on Liberia bruh

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

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[videogamestashbox.com]

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Yall nikkas geedy ....just bullshyt'n
But yeah I don't know if yall saw it, but in the first post on NGOs there are about 9 links to related material ...also under the video on subversion is a hidden video of the same Russian guy going further in on the topic.



With that said yall got me going back into my archives to find info on NGOs
(which is funny because while I've come across shady NGO dealing in my research ...for whatever reason NGOs as a topic unto themselves never really piqued my interest)
I actually found what I was looking for and it wasn't HRC global with gay agenda stuff(although they do that) ...it was actually.....drum roll.....IPPF(International Planned Parenthood Federation)

Yes, that Planned parenthood They took their genocide show on the road apparently. I'll make a dedicated Thread on NGOs using the info above as a starting point and adding to it.

NOTE: my angle will be to paint NGOs in two ways...
1. As the new missionary arm of modern day colonialism(imperialism) forces of the west
2. As galvanisers of local mercenary forces near the wests targets of destabilization(subversion)

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

Since this has become a topic of discussion again.​

 

[DrBanneker]

Since this has become a topic of discussion again.​

Where?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I have made similar discussions like this. Not happening imo. Black people especially in the new world are when it comes to Liberia.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I have made similar discussions like this. Not happening imo. Black people especially in the new world are when it comes to Liberia.

As I've learned more and more, Liberia as it was created could have never work because it was literally a proxy for America and too dependent on American Policy. Now when it comes to its future thats another story.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

As I've learned more and more, Liberia as it was created could have never work because it was literally a proxy for America and too dependent on American Policy. Now when it comes to its future thats another story.

And the migrants didn't have Black empowerment ideas.

 

[Apollo Creed]

And the migrants didn't have Black empowerment ideas.

They were pretty much the equivalent of the Black Bougie class where they only talk Empowerment when they need the support of the common man. After the Cold war the US had no use for Liberia and we see what happened after that, and even then the US still had puppets in play.

Liberia was "modern" as hell but they literally didn't own anything. They were dependent on Companies like Firestone to build their infrastructure,schools, etc. in exchange for access to resources.

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

As I've learned more and more, Liberia as it was created could have never work because it was literally a proxy for America and too dependent on American Policy. Now when it comes to its future thats another story.

And the migrants didn't have Black empowerment ideas.

That's what I meant when I said...
Liberia come into being as a "neo colonial state" before we had the concept "neocolonial" to describe what it was.

 

[Apollo Creed]

That's what I meant when I said...
Liberia come into being as a "neo colonial state" before we had the concept "neocolonial" to describe what it was.

Yeah the real crazy part is they conditioned the minds of indigenous people to think that there was something wrong with them. This made it easy for Missionaries to infiltrate the rural areas, and corporations to get access to resources and land in exchange for them building schools and such so people can be "educated". It's a double edged sword because many Chiefs thought they were doing the right thing for their people under the eyes of "educating" their people so they can contribute to the imaginary "Liberian" society. You even had cases of indigenous people giving themselves English names or adding "-son" at the end of their indigenous names in order to appear "qui" which means civilized and to be able and navigate society.

Hell my Grandfather took the name "Willie" as his civilized name

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

And the migrants didn't have Black empowerment ideas.

This is tricky for me....

The best I can say is that they had black empowerment "practices" but not the "ideology"(as we know it today) to critique those practices and fix the flaws in them.
Though as noted, we can see the seed of those ideas by looking at people like...

The greatest contribution to the formal idea of Pan-Africanismwas made by three Trinidadians: H. Sylvester Williams, C.L.R. James, and George Padmore. Why couldn't these minds function at home? You can trace the history of these minds for two hundred years all the way up to Marcus Garvey, including those that returned home and were killed. None of them were accepted at home. The greatest and clearest of the minds of the nineteenth century was Edward Wilmot Blyden. What he said about education in his famous inaugural address at Liberia College, in 1881, said more about education over one hundred years ago than we are saying right now. He said: We will have to work for many years to come. Not only with out the popular support that we must have, but with inadequate resources....We strive to be those things most unlike ourselves. No matter what talent we have, we feed grist into other peoples mills and, of course, nothing comes out except what has been put in. And that then is our great sorrow.This was said in 1881, over one hundred years ago, and we are still doing it. EdwardWilmot Blyden was one of the finest voices of the nineteenth century. He was not only ahead of his time, he is ahead of this time.

- Education for a New Reality in the African World by Dr. John Henrik Clarke

By the time they started to put them into practice and move away from the U.S. well you know the cycle....

 

[Apollo Creed]

This is tricky for me....

The best I can say is that they had black empowerment "practices" but not the "ideology"(as we know it today) to critique those practices and fix the flaws in them.
Though as noted, we can see the seed of those ideas by looking at people like...

By the time they started to put them into practice and move away from the U.S. well you know the cycle....

Malcom X used to talk about him a lot.

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

Where?

American-Liberians=/=African-American


I need to read the thread more but the overt premise of trying to disassociate past African Americans from past Americo Liberians is ridiculous to me.
(Other than the modern day African Americans and Americo Liberians obviously being historically/culturally distinct at this time)

Now if they were trying to disassociate current African Americans from past African Americans(Americo Liberians) there would be a leg to stand on. If your going to go that route you might as well disassociate from...

• African Americans who fought in the seminal wars
• African Americans in early french New Orleans
• African Americans on gullah geechee islands
• etc etc

It's a ridiculous lazy position to take (at face value) ...if I read the thread further I may come to a different position tho.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

This is an excellent thread. I've also heard of the "former slaves enslaved the natives and that's what created the Liberian Civil War" myth. Thankfully, this thread disspelled that. I learned quite a bit. I'm glad I joined here.

 

[Apollo Creed]

This is an excellent thread. I've also heard of the "former slaves enslaved the natives and that's what created the Liberian Civil War" myth. Thankfully, this thread disspelled that. I learned quite a bit. I'm glad I joined here.

Ever coup/war in Liberia was more so American politics at hand. They players were merely puppets.