We are the Joneses - The Official Texas Longhorns Athletics Thread

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If you watch Kai's full game tape in HS he's honestly worst than Heard at throwing the ball. Dude should move to WR :francis:

Uhhhh...I disagree. He doesn't throw enough to tell how good a passer he is. His junior tape looked better & more promising than his senior tape though. Dude is raw qb thay needs to develop (& mature). I wish folks would quit trying to push him out the door to transfer or change positions.
 

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Uhhhh...I disagree. He doesn't throw enough to tell how good a passer he is. His junior tape looked better & more promising than his senior tape though. Dude is raw qb thay needs to develop (& mature). I wish folks would quit trying to push him out the door to transfer or change positions.


he's going to be developing for a long ass time:francis:
 

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The folks who think Buchele is the future are overreacting. How is Buechele the future when Elhinger is supposed to be the more highley rated QB recruit?

Both 4-stars. Both #4 ranked dual-threat. Ehlinger is bigger so he'll get that ranking nod. But I'm not even looking at that. UT NEEDS for Buechele to be the future and play this out with at least 3 years as the starter. This is the best case scenario for the present and future of the program. I have no doubt Buechele will mentally prepare. If his physical matches up, he has the weapons to succeed big time. This will allow Ehlinger to redshirt(I hope, but that rests on Heard staying and/or Losckley or Merrick developing, and/or Buechele being healthy) and then get to sit and watch and only come in when there is injury. If he's just better at that point then great. But it would be best if he gets to learn and go out there confident and mature instead of being thrown to the wolves. This is how it should work when your program is rolling and I think Buechele has a chance to set that up as well as being a poster boy for QB development that will lead others to UT. If he doesn't you're set back again. That sounds like a lot of pressure and is why the coaches refuse to announce a starter. They want Shane to concentrate on winning the job and preparing to play instead of the thinking about (and hearing) how the future of the program rests on him winning 8+ games. If he's a bust, then we likely start 2017 with a new coach and QB. I think he gets it done.
 

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when I was at UT there was something like 2400 black students. I was there during Hopwood, so they used to say they were having a huge perception problem(straight from the mouths of some administrators). I think that perception has carried on. But these are problems for athletes at these big D-I schools everywhere. You think they have these issues at UT, how do you think it is at A&M?
 

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when I was at UT there was something like 2400 black students. I was there during Hopwood, so they used to say they were having a huge perception problem(straight from the mouths of some administrators). I think that perception has carried on. But these are problems for athletes at these big D-I schools everywhere. You think they have these issues at UT, how do you think it is at A&M?

I had to google Hopwood just to know WTF you're talking about. You're way older than I thought you were. I thought you were at Garland High School in the late 90's/early 00's.
 
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I had to google Hopwood just to know WTF you're talking about. You're way older than I thought you were. I thought you were in High School in the late 90's/early 00's.

I got to Garland High the same year Coach Martin did. Hopwood was a big deal back then. UT was throwin schollie's at any underserved minority student that could gain admission. I'm talkin' black, Latino, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc, etc. The perception in a lot of these communities(especially the black community) was that UT wasn't a welcoming place if you weren't white and/or upperclass or a VISA student. For the few spots there were, it was a damn shame that Hopwood happened. Its always someone that can't get in complaining. Funny thing was, despite the quota, the people getting in all had the scores to get in and she didn't. That whole thing left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people that still goes on today. Now you have the top whatever % rules, and you still have the same group of people complaining about other people getting in. The funny thing is, they don't even get that there's a bad perception so a lot of these students don't want to go to UT in the first place. Its amazing what a little competition does to people. Though I still keep up with my fellow black alumni and sport some gear, I don't rep UT(or Garland for that matter, which is another story) like that unless its advantageous. That left a bad taste in my mouth and I keep UT alumni at arms length. LOL @ some dude giving me a hook em' last summer and trying to talk about our chances against Notre Dame. I gave him the :wtb:and told him we would beat them if we were a football school, but we don't support our coaches and players like that.
 

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I got to Garland High the same year Coach Martin did. Hopwood was a big deal back then. UT was throwin schollie's at any underserved minority student that could gain admission. I'm talkin' black, Latino, Filipino, Vietnamese, etc, etc. The perception in a lot of these communities(especially the black community) was that UT wasn't a welcoming place if you weren't white and/or upperclass or a VISA student. For the few spots there were, it was a damn shame that Hopwood happened. Its always someone that can't get in complaining. Funny thing was, despite the quota, the people getting in all had the scores to get in and she didn't. That whole thing left a bad taste in the mouths of a lot of people that still goes on today. Now you have the top whatever % rules, and you still have the same group of people complaining about other people getting in. The funny thing is, they don't even get that there's a bad perception so a lot of these students don't want to go to UT in the first place. Its amazing what a little competition does to people. Though I still keep up with my fellow black alumni and sport some gear, I don't rep UT(or Garland for that matter, which is another story) like that unless its advantageous. That left a bad taste in my mouth and I keep UT alumni at arms length. LOL @ some dude giving me a hook em' last summer and trying to talk about our chances against Notre Dame. I gave him the :wtb:and told him we would beat them if we were a football school, but we don't support our coaches and players like that.

I remember Ketch talking about how UT coaches weren't welcome in inner-city Dallas until Mack Brown became Head Coach & changed all that. I'm really amazed at the stories I've heard over the years of UT's incompetence at Football pre-Mack Brown.








:lupe: Why don't you rep Garland?


EDIT:
Speaking of the G, I forgot to post this a month or so ago:

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GARLAND
IN: Danny Russell (Wichita Falls)
OUT: Jeff Jordan (to University of Kansas)


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Defensive end Casey Walker (L) and defensive teammates listen as defensive coordinator Danny Russell talks at Garland High School's football practice in Garland, Texas, Tuesday, September 25th, 2007.

Garland ISD was faced with the tall task of replacing Jeff Jordan who, in an age of constant coach turnover, had been with Garland High for 28 years including 15 as head coach. But the district stayed within the same coaching tree, hiring Danny Russell, who served as Garland's defensive coordinator from 2001-2013 before being hired by Wichita Falls.

When Garland won state in 1999, Russell was the secondary coach alongside a star-studded staff of Joe Martin, Tom Westerberg and David Beaty. And just in case you didn't think the Owl roots ran deep enough, Russell is also a 1984 grad of the high school he is now the head coach of.



Garland finished 6-5 overall last year and 4-3 in District 11-6A, undergoing a sort of offensive renaissance by throwing for an average of 272.3 yards per games, a number only surpassed by Rowlett, Southlake Carroll, Allen and Rockwall in 2015.
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There's still a lot of mistrust in the inner-cities with UT, even with Mack. I think he was at least smart enough to hire people to gain some trust though. Previous coaches just ignored places like Dallas and Houston. When I got to UT, Mackovich was coach and he had a bunch of suburban and small town dudes. Seemed like everyone else was from out of state. Ironically, everyone seemed to have this strange trust of A&M to the point, I was surprised at how diverse it wasn't when I visited. They worship their players more though and I think that alone makes a huge difference at some of these football schools. UT doesn't have that kind of player worship. Even when I was there, most people didn't know anything about football. Ricky Williams was big, but I had to school a lot of people on football and why he was good.

My time at the end of Garland was weird. I should be thanking Garland High School for showing me the true face of how people get when things are on the line.
 

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There's still a lot of mistrust in the inner-cities with UT, even with Mack. I think he was at least smart enough to hire people to gain some trust though. Previous coaches just ignored places like Dallas and Houston. When I got to UT, Mackovich was coach and he had a bunch of suburban and small town dudes. Seemed like everyone else was from out of state. Ironically, everyone seemed to have this strange trust of A&M to the point, I was surprised at how diverse it wasn't when I visited.
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:ohhh: I guess we now understand why Bruce Chambers was always important to Mack Brown.
 

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...so who we rescuing from that sinking ship, that is baylor? Hudson, as he put it, is reflecting on some things.
 
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