We are the Joneses - The Official Texas Longhorns Athletics Thread

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Watching the presser now.

:russ: at Delance.

Good to hear the younger kids are into recruiting.

:francis: Kind of seemed like a shot at the upperclassmen.

I noticed who was in the war room. Only upperclassmen I noticed was Blueitt.
 

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reporters ask some of the dumbest questions about recruiting. i understand some of the questions if you're new to sports and don't know crap about college recruiting or recruiting period, but some of the stupid stuff they ask would make me :dahell::dahell::dahell: if i were standing up there as the coach.
 

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:blessed: GOOD!!!! I ALWAYS hated that they moved the Texas-A&M game from Friday afternoon after Thanksgiving to Thanksgiving night back in 2008 in the first place. Now that we don't play A&M anymore & there are now Thanksgiving night NFL games, the thanksgiving night UT game is inconvenient AF to everyone.
 

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From SSS:
I got a chance to catch-up with a friend now that the work has eased up for him. He's not a fukking booster, has better access than that, calls things how he hears it, and knows his shyt front to back as well as anyone in the world not in the coaching ranks. Take it fwiw, but keep it here, please.

Mattox, Gilbert and Traylor are opening the doors when HS coaches are necessary. Strong legitimately doesn't enjoy burning much energy on cultivating HS coaching relationships. You need guys around you in that case who can get the doors open for a visit whenever you need it, and the aforementioned guys make that happen. The 247 criticism wasn't a hit piece. Both things can be true, and they look stupid now with that thread, or Howe does, but the fact is that Strong DNGAF and you guys can simultaneously laud that and see why a guru who spends time listening to HS coaching whiners would have the take he had.

Taylor has a shoulder problem. He won't play this year. He didn't like the numbers once Southall was known as coming on board, even if Texas still wanted him. Muschamp made a numbers oriented argument and got him. Why did Muschamp and "T-Rob" want him so bad I asked? They needed him, even if he never gets healthy, he's worth a shot and they are looking at a cupboard more bare than Texas right now.

Thornton called Texas after his dumbass had sent a signed LOI to LSU. That's what happens to these kids who are damn near orphans, they just don't have a backdrop of good guidance.

Hudson's HS coach picked him up early for school to "guide him from the media" and then sat him down to sign the LOI. He is Briles' college roommate. Henry was coming in on a plane that morning and didn't get to sit down with Hudson the way they had planned because by the time he had gotten there, the guilt trip LOI had already been sent in. Them's the brakes.

Collin Johnson is brutally underrated and will be a stud if he can stay healthy. Ignore everything about how he was ranked.

Fowler flipped without notifying LSU. LSU has an extreme redass about Texas right now. This will play out between the schools in both states in this class, which is weaker in both outside of OT than it was this past year.

Southall is better than we are giving him credit for, and he has an NFL ceiling. He has mechanical shyt to work out, but you have to believe Strong's staff will help there.

Elliott should be a top 50 national guy but is every bit the head case we think he is. Huge risk/reward player who could wind up out of football in a few years or be a high draft pick.

Fitzgerald, Cuffee, Christmas-Giles, and Curtis are all guys who highlight how good Strong and Traylor are at identifying talent irrespective of ranking or what anyone else thinks. He thinks all 4 could prove to be high performers at Texas when measured against ranking.

Everyone was scratching their head about Haley up to January. I realize now everyone here had it right the whole way on Haley and such, and he did a good job this past year, but Louisiana "is a numbers game and LSU can't take everybody" and Strong did a good job of keeping the guy focused there no matter the ebb and flow of the period. It will be a different year this year and Haley is going to have to earn some of his pay by doing work in North Louisiana too. Can't spend all of 2017 around New Orleans, as there is less meat on the bone this time around.

State of Florida could probably come back into play more this class. Ignore the rankings on Florida players and where they sign. IMG Academy creates a weird distortion in Florida numbers. Remove those recruits and UF and FSU did much better in Florida than the surface shows. This will continue. Miami's problems will get worse as the facilities arm's race has crushed them and they have no daylight on fixing that.

Speaking of IMG, Dylan Moses is going to Alabama. Ignore anything else about the guy unless something crazy happens with Saban and Bama.

Little was bought, happily. I think we all knew that, but for the dollar figures akin to Means + inflation, or Mack for a more recent data point.

The TE out of Cy whatever will not be wavering from ND and is making that choice for all of the right reasons. Dad is a millionaire so money won't matter on that one. He is an NFL All Pro level talent, as good as you see them in HS. The OT with him is also a stud. From Louisiana and will go to LSU if things remain somewhat normal at LSU. If that doesn't happen, Texas has a great shot.

Strong will not be changing recruiting tactics and will play things up to the end again. Traylor will be able to take who he wants, when he wants them in ET, but that's about the only adjustment allowed for in approach. If a kid has any doubt, they're ok letting him do his thing until the doubt is gone.

Expect a class of 20, roughly, unless craziness happens with attrition. Forget the numbers crunching unless you enjoy playing with that math - 20 is the rough target.

Okudah wants his ass kissed and Texas isn't going to do that. However, this is one where his interest in Texas might "pop-up" when it gets late and they start laying it on thick (if they choose to do so).

The DE at North Shore may like Baylor because his father went there, but his mother literally murdered his father. It's unclear how much Baylor has going for it or against it.

Hines and Browning are targets and attainable.

I am sure there is other shyt that I am forgetting, it was a long conversation, so ask something if you like.

One final note I can recall and saved for the end. This guy feels the way we do about Mack but is around more than he'd like for various reasons. This week, Mack might as well have been forced to eat his own dirty underwear as he had to speak in praise of Chuck. Brown also thinks there is funny business going on behind the scenes and made sure my friend heard about it. Do not forgive or forget what Brown has become for us.
 

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Had to go check to see who posted that to determine how much of that I would believe. But dude is pretty plugged in, especially in the Houston area.
 

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Had to go check to see who posted that to determine how much of that I would believe. But dude is pretty plugged in, especially in the Houston area.

closetojumping :scust:. Knowitall that wants Strong gone. Will never forget him talking shyt about what linemen UT wasn't taking and was making a mistake. UT got every one of them and ended up with a sorry ass line.
 

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Don't believe the Hudson stuff on signing day. IF that's true, I'm pretty sure he could get out of his LOI pretty easily.

Most of the other stuff you can trace back though. He was always talking in code and looks to correspond with different posts. So he knew most of these dudes were already wanting in. I knew Brandon Jones wanted in as soon as I watched that film. His mom and brother were reasoning for UT, but trying to make it sound like they weren't because of the camera, LOL. A&M thought that they had dude, but he was already in the Wolfpack. Higdon and these recruits had to be tripped out at Hamm. Imagine if you knew he was just making shyt up?
 
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closetojumping :scust:. Knowitall that wants Strong gone. Will never forget him talking shyt about what linemen UT wasn't taking and was making a mistake. UT got every one of them and ended up with a sorry ass line.

He is a mouthpiece for the BMD in the Houston area. Best believe whatever his sentiments were at the time, were coming from them, which I don't find surprising as I am sure those guys in Houston were enamored with Tom Herman. Since he has been back on Shaggy he has kind of walked those opinions back and assume they are all back on board now.

His player evaluations are hit(moreso) and miss, I've learned to not take his opinions on recruits seriously.

The Hudson stuff is real. Mark Henry was supposed to talk with him that morning prior to signing, had that happen I believe he would have signed with Texas. Briles used backdoor channels to ensure they got Hudson LOI asap that morning. Then tweeted it out to make it public. Remember we are dealing with kids here so they aren't going to be adapt to bucking the system. Same thing with Thornton, dude signed with LSU, then changed his mind and wanted to sign with Texas.
 

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Bobby B had a good ranked the recruits in this class. Bottom 3 of the 5 were receivers. If Tre'D wanted back in, i'd taken him in a heartbeat.

Now that the Texas Longhorns' 2016 class has signed, it’s time to take a closer look at the players the Longhorns inked. As some of you guys know, my personal rankings of recruits often differ from those at 247, other services, the Texas coaching staff and many others. So with the class complete, these are my final rankings (not 247s or anyone else's) of the Texas recruiting class from No. 1 to No. 24. For comparison's sake, I've also listed where each player is ranked in the 247Sports Industry Composite.

1. WR, Collin Johnson, 6-6, 200, San Jose (Calif.) Valley Christian (8)
2. DB, Brandon Jones, 5-11.5, 193, Nacogdoches (1)
3. LB, Jeffrey McCulloch, 6-2.5, 230, Aldine Davis (2)
4. DE, Andrew Fitzgerald, 6-5, 250, Flower Mound Marcus (9)
5. OG, Denzel Okafor, 6-4, 295, Lewisville (12)
6. DT, D'Andre Christmas-Giles, 6-3, 290, New Orleans St. Augustine (13)
7. DT, Chris Daniels, 6-3.5, 326, Euless Trinity (6)
8. ATH, Malcolm Roach, 6-3, 255, Baton Rouge (La.) Madison Prep (19)
9. LB, Erick Fowler, 6-1, 226, Manor (3)
10. OG, Zach Shackelford, 6-3, 290, Belton (24)
11. DT, Jordan Elliott, 6-3.5, 306, Houston Westside (4)
12. RB, Kyle Porter, 5-11, 208, Katy (10)
13. DB, Eric Cuffee, 5-11.5, 188, Waco (11)
14. DT, Marcel Southall, 6-2, 285, Duncanville (17)
15. TE, Peyton Aucoin, 6-4, 255, New Orleans Brother Martin (23)
16. OT, Jean Delance, 6-5, 291, North Mesquite (5)
17. QB, Shane Buechele, 6-2, 185, Arlington Lamar (7)
18. ATH, Demarco Boyd, 5-11, 228, Gilmer (18)
19. OG, Tope Imade, 6-4.5, 327, Arlington Bowie (22)
20. WR, Davion Curtis, 5-11, 180, Temple (21)
21. DT, Gerald Wilbon, 6-3, 311, Destrehan, La. (20)
22. WR, Reggie Hemphill-Mapps, 6-1, 172, Manvel (14)
23. DB, Chris Brown, 5-11, 183, Alief Elsik (16)
24. ATH, Lil'Jordan Humphrey, 6-5, 199, Southlake Carroll (15)

- Despite all the hubbub on signing day, I think the best player in the entire class was already on campus in Johnson. I mentioned this early in the recruiting process, but I want to reiterate that one school on the West Coast thought Johnson was the best receiver in the state of California. In a state with a ton of great receivers that's high praise. He was injured most of his senior year, so he never got to go to a national all-star game or put up big-time stats this year, so I think a lot of people just kept him ranked in a safe spot as opposed to actually considering him as a top prospect. From my viewpoint, I think his catch radius is other worldly, he's active attacking the ball and he truly cares about being great at the sport. He's such a mismatch when the ball is in the air and I think he's going to maximize his abilities.

- Texas is forced to play two-deep safety looks way too often in the Big 12, in part because they don't have a safety that can really fly. Jones could be that guy. Something to remember about Jones, too, is he's a playmaker. That's part of what makes him special.

- McCulloch makes a lot of off-schedule plays. What I like in particular is his wingspan and closing speed to the ball moving downfield. He really covers ground on bootlegs and roll outs and can affect the timing of QBs.

- You guys know how much I like Fitzgerald. I sang his praises when he committed. This is where I think he should be ranked. I think of all of the defensive linemen, he's the one who is absolutely going to play next year in part because I know he can hold up somewhat against the run as an end. He'll handle the run better from day one than just about every DE on campus.

- I think Okafor is the best offensive lineman in the class long-term. Long arms, quick feet and natural lower-body strength are a tough combination to beat.

- D'Andre Christmas-Giles is an ideal 3-technique for Big 12 play as a great up-field pass rusher. He knows how to use his arms and quickness is outstanding. The issue is he could end up the best player in the class or one of the worst if he doesn’t work hard to achieve his potential. This ranking by me is a bet that he'll push himself hard.

- Daniels has a surprising motor for a player of his size. But the thing that sticks out to me is his initial punch. He really seems to pop people on initial contact. That's a somewhat rare trait and can be credited to his natural strength. He’s an above-average athlete, too.

- If any player in this class reminds me of Hassan Ridgeway as a high school prospect, it's Malcolm Roach. He's so talented and is just getting accustomed to his size. I won't be surprised if he sees some time as a TE, a la Caleb Bluiett. Really good pass catcher.

- Fowler has a sixth sense for the pass rush. That's Fowler. He's relentless and instinctive. The reason he's ranked lower by me than others is I worry that he's a tweener physically. He plays more like a DE than a linebacker, yet he's 6-1, 222. Guys that size who make it are either special players or tweeners. There's usually little room for in-between.

- Shackelford is ranked the last player in this class by experts. But I think he and Johnson might be the first two to win a starting job. If Shackelford can take to the center position this spring, it could open a variety of possibilities for Texas on the offensive line. I'm fairly good friends with Bob Shipley, and Bob is a huge believer in Shack's mentality toward the game. He thinks Shackelford has that part down. Bottom line is, I will not be surprised if Shackelford wins the starting center job this spring.

- Elliott is talented. He’s talented in an almost Shaun Rogers kind of way. Not as good of a player as Shaun coming in but at least similar size-wise. He just needs to work hard. If he does, the sky's the limit.

- Porter is different than the other running backs Texas has on campus. He can easily play out of the slot or in one-back sets. He's a Shock Linwood starter kit to me.

- Cuffee is a versatile defensive back with long arms and good size. He’s more of a nickel or strong safety than a true corner to me. He has the talent to end up being an NFL player, but he's going to have to keep focused and keep improving his entire career. He's one of those guys who has to improve as a freshman and sophomore to end up being an NFL type.

- Delance has an abnormally long wingspan, good athleticism and strength when locked on. But here's why I've ranked him lower than most others. He simply needs to be quicker off the ball. You'll look at his highlights and everything looks fine. But in some game film and during Under Armour practices, he gets eaten up off the snap. That's why he may end up playing on the interior instead of the edge. If he can learn to get into his drop much more quickly, he could end up being terrific. But that is not always an easy thing to teach or learn.

- Buechele has the physical tools to easily be a Colt McCoy type. But will he put the time in and get the opportunity that McCoy did? We'll see.

- Here's how good Texas did on signing day on the defensive line: Southall would be the best defensive tackle more than half the other Big 12 schools signed. He’s a good combo of down-the-line run stopper and pocket pusher. Athletic.

- Watch Boyd's senior film. He reminds me of former Oklahoma H-back J.D. Runnels so much it's scary.

- I think Wilbon is a little more athletic than folks give him credit for, but he is primarily an interior run stopper.

- Aucoin is a willing blocker and said to have a good football IQ. Must add smart weight and Texas has to find a way to utilize him in the new offense.

- Imade is as naturally strong as any lineman Texas added on either side of the ball. Lateral quickness is the big question mark but that may not matter as much in the new scheme.

- Curtis is a flyer. He could actually end up playing more early in his career since he's one of just a few that already knows the new offense.

- I liken Brown to P.J. Locke. Very similar skill set with a lifelong love of the Longhorns, though I think Brown is a little behind Locke at the same stage of their careers.

- I struggle with Hemphill-Mapps because he was rarely utilized at Manvel. He has really good speed and body control. But is he a future starter? Not sure.

- Humphrey is a well-rounded, heady player but not sure what he does great quite yet or how he's going to fit. If he had a position set in stone, it'd be much easier to assess where I think he should be ranked.
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LJH's full senior highlights just dropped (I already posted his midseason senior highlights earlier in this thread):


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im just not that impressed bro. i like this kid's tape a lot more. this the type of raw east texas athlete traylor was brought here to get. we need more speed on offense.

Denzel Mims, Daingerfield , Wide Receiver




:whoo: That nikka is 6'4 & a trackstar? I've been so jealous that all of TCU & Baylor offensive skill postion guys were all track guys in high school.

But I can tell from Mims' High School stats dude was just a raw deep threat in High School. LJH has better receiving stats as a senior than Mims does as a senior or Junior despite the fact that WR was a secondary position for LJH.
 
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