WATCH: Zimbabwe's New President Promises Compensation For White Farmers

[Isaiah Bradley]

There are no UN sanctions on Zimbabwe. It’s Western sanctions are not even that broad but mostly focused on the individual assets of Goverment officials there. What they want a return of are donor funds and Western investment.

The Western sanctions exist and there are UN sanctions too

"Individual sanctions" is basically a label used by Western powers to implicitly encourage NGOs in Zimbabwe to either completely withdraw and/or redirect their efforts, resources, and funding to mostly humanitarian aids, which is a short term, that does not directly address the long term economical development. No foreign country will secure funding for their private or public organization to assist another country's government that is perceived as "bad," which is exactly what has occurred with Mugabe by the "individual sanctions"

 

[thatrapsfan]

The Western sanctions exist and there are UN sanctions too

What UN sanctions, link something if you’re convinced this is a fact? China blocked attempts by the US to pass sanctions at the Security Council a decade ago and nothing has happened since.

 

[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Have your country overthrown by a super c00n brehs

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

What UN sanctions, link something if you’re convinced this is a fact? China blocked attempts by the US to pass sanctions at the Security Council a decade ago and nothing has happened since.

I stand corrected. These two websites I use to refer to are not reflecting my original point. So I should've used Western sanctions

There is an arms embargo in force in Zimbabwe, imposed by the United Nations (UN) and implemented in UK law.

Embargoes and sanctions on Zimbabwe - GOV.UK

There are UN sanctions against Zimbabwe on assumed and proven involvement in the illicit trade of high value commodities, including diamonds. UN & EU Conflict Diamonds

Zimbabwe - Sanctions Wiki

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“The issue of sanctions has nothing to do with the UN because these are not UN sanctions, and this is an issue between Zimbabwe and the specific country which has imposed restrictive measures. Zimbabwe and those countries that imposed restrictive measures must work it out, and this is an issue between member states to discuss,” Parajuli said.

UN stays off sanctions issue - NewsDay Zimbabwe

 

[Bawon Samedi]

90 percent of this thread is clueless and just love to throw around jingoistic rhetoric. In the same speech he made clear that the land transfers are non-negotiable. Like you said this was made with an eye of removing sanctions and getting funds following into the country again. There is zero to suggest that: 1) He is a Western puppet 2) There will be some broad reversal of political power in Zim that will favour white Zimbos.

Ironically, the extreme focus on the racial dynamics of Zim politics from black foreigners, means that people overlook other legitimate concerns about the new President.

So basically this thread should be closed and everyone from the posters in this thread and Tariq Nasheed made a fool of themselves. Anyone with common sense can see that he is trying to remove the sanctions which ANY normal country would try to do! My disagreement is that the White farmers should NOT be given money but you gotta do what you gotta do.

As for the last paragraph these types never cared about Zimbabweans or what they wanted.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I prefer to actually follow @Diasporan Royalty take on these things since he doesn’t seem to be purely reactionary and actually try to understand and get the facts straight in regards to issues. Especially black African issues. But it seems like a lot of folks have their narrative and agenda and reading right past what he is saying.

These guys are such conniving frauds that its sickening. Some claim to be pan-Africanist but yet WANT to hold the idea that Africans are dumbasses. These guys never cared about the issues Black Zimbabweans faced such as 90% unemployment, a tanked economy, starvation or genocide. No to them they just got kickers outta Mugabe because he would make the Cacs/The West "mad." Like someone said as long as you do that then you are seen as a God on the Coli.

North Korea and Kim Jong Un makes the West madder than ANYONE and yet Kim brutalizes his people. Like I said it was never about caring what Black Zimbabweans needed. Hell some of these clowns seem to WANT Cacs to takeover the country just so they can scream, "I WAS RIGHT! Shoulda never got rid of Mugabe!" Well, this is the hero these guys look up to,
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Yeah, sanctions were placed on Zimbabwe. But Mugabe was ruling for 37 years and this is what he decided to do.

Robert Mugabe's vast wealth exposed by lavish homes and decadent ways
When Grace Mugabe summoned a number of supporters to her sprawling private compound at Mazowe, north of Harare, in 2014 – she told them that all suggestions her husband was a wealthy man were wide of the mark.

Standing in front of the 30 or so luxury villas that she has had built on the property, she insisted that the truth was that Mugabe was the poorest head of state in the world.

“We are blessed because we have Baba Mugabe,” she said. “He is the poorest president the world over. I have never seen him asking for money from anyone.”

Nobody listening believed a word of it, of course. Grace enjoys a number of soubriquets in Zimbabwe, all of them reflecting a widespread belief that she enjoys squandering the country’s wealth: the First Shopper, Gucci Grace, and even DisGrace.

The couple’s home in Harare is said to be extraordinarily opulent, so much so that when their daughter Bona was married there, photographers were said to have been ordered not to take any pictures that showed the property in the background.

According to some estimates, Robert Mugabe has about £1bn-worth of assets, much of it invested outside Zimbabwe. A 2001 US diplomatic cable, later released by the whistle-blowing organisation WikiLeaks, quoted this figure, and said that while reliable information was difficult to find, there were rumours that his assets “include everything from secret accounts in Switzerland, the Channel Islands and the Bahamas to castles in Scotland”.

Grace Mugabe is said to have bought a number of properties in the affluent Sandton suburb of Johannesburg and there are reported to have been property purchases in Malaysia, Singapore and possibly Dubai.

The first lady is reported to have the sort of designer shoe collection that might be expected of a dictator’s wife and, notoriously, is said to have spent $75,000 (£56,000) on luxury goods on a single shopping spree in Paris.

Grace denies this, although there is plenty of evidence of extravagance within the Mugabe family. Earlier this year the couple’s youngest son, Bellarmine Chatunga, posted on Instagram a photograph of his watch with the caption: “$60,000 on the wrist when your daddy run the whole country ya know!!!”

Shortly afterwards, a video emerged showing the 21-year-old dousing his watch with champagne from a bottle of Armand de Brignac gold champagne, which retails at around $400 a bottle.

A small glimpse of Robert and Grace Mugabe’s wealth came to light in 2015, during a dispute over ownership of a $7.6m home in Hong Kong. There was a second glimpse earlier this year when the government-owned Herald newspaper reported that Grace had ordered a $1.35m diamond ring to mark her wedding anniversary.

However, there has been little sign of the couple’s riches outside the country since 2002, when the European Union began imposing sanctions and asset seizure orders on senior regime figures. This came after the government launched a violent crackdown on opponents, refused to permit the monitoring of elections and evicted some white farmers from their farms.

So little has come to light that the Herald at one point said: “Nothing has been found despite the celebrated international intelligence network of the Americans, British and other western super powers.”

But in Zimbabwe itself, the couple have been more brazen. As well as the compound at Mazowe and the palatial home in the capital’s wealthy Borrowdale district, they have a number of land holdings.

The best known is the Omega Dairy farm, one of the largest dairy farms in southern Africa. Opposition politicians have claimed that the Mugabes actually own 14 farms in the country, which would be in contravention of the constitution, which limits land holdings.

Further diplomatic cables made public by Wikileaks offer intriguing insights into the kleptocracy that the couple helped to create.

In one, headlined “Doing business Zimbabwe-style”, a US diplomat recounts a story about a high court judge taking possession of a white commercial farm north of Harare in 2002, in defiance of a order issued by his own court.

“The farm was near the Mugabe rural home,” the diplomat reported. “In 2009, the farm caught the eye of First Lady Grace Mugabe, who apparently wanted it for her son from her first marriage.”

She is said to have ordered the judge off the land. He countered with a lawsuit “but unsurprisingly”, the diplomat noted, no court was willing to hear the case.

The judge then found another farm, and demanded that the owner leave. But a government minister, who was “a patron” of the owner, told him to desist and look for another farm.

So he found another large farm and demanded a portion of that. The owners were reported to be “a bit miffed” that he was demanding 900 hectares, when his original farm had been just 600. “They ultimately negotiated,” the diplomat said.
Robert Mugabe's vast wealth exposed by lavish homes and decadent ways

The more these guys try and defend Mugabe the more Ls they take. Their arguments get further crushed when they praise Mugabe for taking the White Farms(which I dont have anything against them praising him) as a some pro-Black power move, but only for Mugabe to give it to his friends and families, and he himself using it for his own personal gains instead of giving them to actual Black farmers. This clowns seriously would have no problems with a person named "Gucci Grace" running an already impoverished nation.

 

[Free White & 21]

It’s not the 20th century, Britain can’t even manage its relationship with Europe much less project power in a country they’ve been shut out of for a decade plus. Mugabe being forced to step down has zip to with Britain and much more to do with Zim politics and politics of ZANU-PF in particular. That a new President would want to attract back Western investment and donor funds is unsurprising.

Britain = white western interest = white supremacy = white western interest = britain = ...

How is it not about "Britain", but it IS about western investment?

nikkas is talking crazy talk at this point

 

[Free White & 21]

Repped

You not going to win any negotiation with white Zimbabwe farmers nor England because you ain’t just negotiating with them, you negotiate with the global white collective :Deadtrumper:

This actually a powerful statement

Also gotta add that if you wrong one, you wrong em all pleighboi

Mugabe took land from 5000 insignificant white folks and the fonk was on!

GLOBALLY.

 

[richaveli83]

 

[thatrapsfan]

Britain = white western interest = white supremacy = white western interest = britain = ...

How is it not about "Britain", but it IS about western investment?

nikkas is talking crazy talk at this point

Lol. The post I was replying to claimed Mugabe lost power because the British dislike him. My post directly addresses why I dont think that is the case. What does that have to do with what your saying exactly?

 

[Sithlord Piff]

I saw the street celebrations after Mugabe resigned.




Zimbabweans got what they wanted...so let them eat

 

[The D-List Vet]

bump @Diasporan Royalty @HopeKillCure @number21
White farmer gets land back under Zimbabwe's new leader