Watch this Video and see if you feel the same way about Zimmerman case

[thegreatwb]

Lol I'd also like to see the official report that claims Trayvon had liver damage due to lean.

Let's not forget that the Pillsbury dough boy also took MMA classes, assaulted a police officer, was accused of molesting a family member, accused of domestic violence, and is a known pathological liar.

People want to speculate and say that Trayvon could have made it home. Fair enough. He also had every right to stay outside for the next 6 hours if he wanted to. This is similar to how Zimmerman could have made it to Target or not got out of his car even though he chose to pursue him.

Also, how did Trayvon know that Zimmerman would get out of the car and follow him? If he started running and turned down the T section, Zimmerman would still be in his car and Trayvon would have thought that he lost him.

 

[Calmye]

Zimmerman should of never got out the car. The only reason this is an issue is because FL is a bunch of redneck swamp people. Anywhere else in the country he is doing at least 15 for man slaughter. This blaming the victim shyt is just sad and shows the amount of hate & distane you Cacs Have for black people. Why are you even on this site? st0rmfr0nt is right there

 

[Calmye]

The point is that it was dark and he was being followed. You have no idea what the person who follows you wants to do to you. If I was being followed I would honestly think that someone might be trying to kill me and I don't do drugs. When you feel you are in danger a lot of "common sense" things go out of the window. As I said your post is right wing propaganda to try and normalize zimmerman as an honest do gooder and trayvon as some sort of reckless thug. No one here is gonna buy into that bullshyt.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf?hpt=hp_t2

sly, can you show me where it says trayvon had damaged his liver with lean?

@Slystallion

 

[zerozero]

first of all most of this is irrelevant

but seriously SlyStallion, you gonna post on a rap forum that one makes lean with SKITTLES?

 

[Juneya]

if he was a drugged out maniac, that wouldnt matter

Lean doesnt create drugged out maniacs... It creates half dead couch zombies. and Sleepiness.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

Op gotta be one of da WOAT posters on dis fukkin site by far.

 

[Slystallion]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/05/17/trayvon.martin.autopsy.pdf?hpt=hp_t2

sly, can you show me where it says trayvon had damaged his liver with lean?

Again i reiterate this is not my research i just summarized the video. But what the guy in the video was talking about is on the section that says hepatobiliary system and it talks about focal patchy yellow discoloration due to mild metamorphosis present.

I'm not a doctor but according to the guy in the video its consistent with people who drink lean

 

[Arrogance.]

Lol I'd also like to see the official report that claims Trayvon had liver damage due to lean.

Let's not forget that the Pillsbury dough boy also took MMA classes, assaulted a police officer, was accused of molesting a family member, accused of domestic violence, and is a known pathological liar.

People want to speculate and say that Trayvon could have made it home. Fair enough. He also had every right to stay outside for the next 6 hours if he wanted to. This is similar to how Zimmerman could have made it to Target or not got out of his car even though he chose to pursue him.

Also, how did Trayvon know that Zimmerman would get out of the car and follow him? If he started running and turned down the T section, Zimmerman would still be in his car and Trayvon would have thought that he lost him.

Exactly, if people want to drag Trayvon's name through the mud with things that may or may not be related to this case, then why can't Zimmerman's history of violence and not quite PC racial feelings be discussed?

At this point I'm tired of arguing over irrelevant points. People want to muddy the issue, throw strawmen arguments out there, and just flat out tell people they are wrong for feeling like justice was not served. Well, that's someone's opinion to have, just like you're entitled to come up with whatever sounds good in your head to justify an unarmed 17 year old being killed. Zimmerman is only free because the state didn't do a good enough job proving his story was BS, and the only other direct witness to the altercation was killed in the process of it.

Sly thanks for trying to continue the discussion ()

 

[zerozero]

the fact is whether he drank lean or not, had trouble at school or not, is completely irrelevant. i'm surprised you can't see that. it's not like zimmerman knew what his history or life is like

and even if he did, drinking too much codeine hardly deserves a death sentence

 

[Blackking]

These and more irrelevant 'facts' are coming from everywhere. Even if the boy was white this would be wrong... but it's worse because if the boy was white he would be alive. This is the reason why our actions and responses should be a lil more militant. Realistically most people wrong give a fukk about this in a few weeks because we STILL haven't done shyt about it... America is already used to black America crying about shyt. The only real action I've seen is certain people not doing business and artist not performing in FL

 

[Slystallion]

Exactly, if people want to drag Trayvon's name through the mud with things that may or may not be related to this case, then why can't Zimmerman's history of violence and not quite PC racial feelings be discussed?

At this point I'm tired of arguing over irrelevant points. People want to muddy the issue, throw strawmen arguments out there, and just flat out tell people they are wrong for feeling like justice was not served. Well, that's someone's opinion to have, just like you're entitled to come up with whatever sounds good in your head to justify an unarmed 17 year old being killed. Zimmerman is only free because the state didn't do a good enough job proving his story was BS, and the only other direct witness to the altercation was killed in the process of it.

Sly thanks for trying to continue the discussion ()

post the other evidence i wasn't paying attention to the case when it was going on. I'm open to hearing all aspects of the case. My stance is though if you attack someone first and you don't stop once you've got them in a position where they are begging you to stop or crying for help then your liable to have lethal force used against you especially when it comes to having your skull slammed on concrete

if you can find credible evidence that it didn't happen then i may change my stance on this case

 

[NZA]

Again i reiterate this is not my research i just summarized the video. But what the guy in the video was talking about is on the section that says hepatobiliary system and it talks about focal patchy yellow discoloration due to mild metamorphosis present.

I'm not a doctor but according to the guy in the video its consistent with people who drink lean

can you link to a medical source as well as you link to right wing propaganda?

 

[Beegio]

For those that don't end up watching it i'll summarize some of the main points. Lets try to keep personal stuff out of it and simply bring up facts and try to pin down the more likely situation of what happened as opposed to a narrative that fits what you want. These are not my bulletpoints just a summary of the video



*Trayvon Martin was taking MMA classes and tweeted that he hopes his next opponent gets to bleed more
*Stolen property and tools to break into homes were found in Trayvon's locker but school did not want to have police involved and didn't want police report
*The Iced tea that everyone talks about which was found was actually Arizona Watermelon drink....Trayvon Tweeted that mixing skittles robitussun and Arizona Watermelon drink makes some "fire ass lean"
*Autopsy found Trayvon's liver damaged by lean which supports idea of someone being paranoid
*witnesses claim Trayvon was on top giving Zimmerman mma style blows while Zimmerman yelled for help
*Zimmerman actually helped out a homeless black guy who was assaulted by son of Police officer and Zimmerman put up flyers until son of Policeman was charged with assault of homeless black man
*Timing shows Trayvon was not being pursued and was waiting and could have gotten away from Zimmerman but waited for him when analyzing time span and distance
*Police did not charge because Zimmerman's head was being pounded on concrete and had he not shot Trayvon permanent damage or death could have occured to Zimmerman
*Charges did not happen until there was political pressure from white house and other political forces which shows evidence of weak case

@BarNone Why is this troll allowed to drag a dead child's name through the mud with outright, already proven lies? This is beyond disrespectful. It is VERY offensive to me, and I would argue other posters here.

People are banned for making jokes about the death of white kids, ala The Sandyhook tragedy, but to actually lie about and demonize a black kid who was the victim of gun violence is OK?

 

[Slystallion]

can you link to a medical source as well as you link to right wing propaganda?

bro i'm not a doctor nor did i make the claim i'm just stating what the guy in the video said. I have no way to know if yellow liver discoloration is consistent with lean use. Heck i just found out what lean is like last year and don't know anybody who does it.

Codeine does cause liver damage i just don't know the type of liver damage and wouldn't be able to decipher the terms in the autopsy any way because i'm not a med student or doctor

 

[Slystallion]

@BarNone Why is this troll allowed to drag a dead child's name through the mud with outright, already proven lies? This is beyond disrespectful. It is VERY offensive to me, and I would argue other posters here.

People are banned for making jokes about the death of white kids, ala The Sandyhook tragedy, but to actually lie about and demonize a black kid who was the victim of gun violence is OK?

Its called discussion. I don't know either of the two parties and recognize that someone's child is no longer here. This isn't my research i already stated my stance on what i feel happened...it boils down to he who strikes first and doesn't stop is most likely legally in the wrong and opens themselves up for legal retaliation.

i've seen all sorts of different theories posted as to what happened and none based on any evidence such as Trayvon running with a gun and killing Trayvon execution style...looking at the damage to Zimmerman thats obviously not what happened.

The real question is who started it for instance if Zimmerman went up to him and said "don't move or i'll kill you" then Trayvon has every right to knock Zim to the ground because he received a threat and had to make a quick decision

but according to the only witness who saw the beginning altercation(Zimmerman) Trayvon just decked him sneak attack style...as far as i know i only know of witnesses that only saw Trayvon on top landing blows to Zimmerman while Zimmerman cried for help

At some point if the person you are attacking is crying for help you walk up and get out of there