was Michael a better Godfather then Vito?

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I liked Vito because he was loved, respected as well as feared. Mike was feared and respected but it didn't seem like the love was always there.

Michael did everything for family. I'll always respect that character trait.

I'll never forgive him for having Fredo murked tho. And he waited till his moms passed too smh.

i commend mike on his plan for fredo and keeping control of the situation. okaying the hit while his mom's was alive? that would have broke her heart breh.

Mike coulda murked him in cuba and chalked it up to the rebels tho :scheme:

:pacspit: @ Roth
 

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Why is G.O.D Father Part 3 so hated on? Isnt that what happens to most organized crime syndicates over time, they go corporate?
It wasn't so much that it was just not as good a film compared to the previous 2. Robert Duvall did not return which was disappointing. They replaced him with a generic stand in. Sophia Coppola was a terrible choice and actress. Pacino was way past the calm calculated slicked back boss. Wasn't as fun without him being Michael we grew accustomed to. And the story wasn't as compelling. Just an all around step back from what made part 1 and 2 so classic.there's a lot to not pick from this flick and also obvious flaws and bad scenes.
 

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did Fredo really mess up so bad that Mike ordered his death?

thats what im saying. they all knew fredo was an idiot and im sure mike knew in his heart that fredo didnt actually think they would try to kill mike. it was just a dumb ass move by an inept dude. they kept fredo in the dark. mike just killed him out of principle more than anything but it was wrong and mike knew it.

as far as the question, i think vito was slightly better but not by much.
 

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I gotta take Mike. Mike made those hard decisions. Fredo had to go. Not only did he get involved with people who tried to whack the boss, the boss was your own brother. Plus Mike cleaned up and had his sister's husband :camby:to the bushes for getting Sonny killed. Mike was ruthless. He made the hard decisions. That's what a boss had to do. Vito was getting a little soft in his old age.
 

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Mike was better

Vito schooled him on the game...showed him what to look for...plus he was already a sharp dude so naturally he became more wise

He was more ruthless and calculated than Sonny & Vito

And it was always business never personal (besides Fredo dumb ass)
 

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thats what im saying. they all knew fredo was an idiot and im sure mike knew in his heart that fredo didnt actually think they would try to kill mike. it was just a dumb ass move by an inept dude. they kept fredo in the dark. mike just killed him out of principle more than anything but it was wrong and mike knew it.

as far as the question, i think vito was slightly better but not by much.

Fredo knew what the stakes were. There aint no non-lethal way to snake someone in the mafia biz.

Fredo witnessed his pops catch slugs over "business"
Sonny got murked cuz Carlo wasn't loyal to the family

THEY HAD ALREADY TRIED TO MURK MIKE AT HIS HOME!

Even through all that, Fredo still went along with Roth. SMH. :dwillhuh:

Fredo was too stupid to realize had his plan worked, in any capacity, he would've been murked by Roth anyway cuz he's largely useless.
 

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Fredo knew what the stakes were. There aint no non-lethal way to snake someone in the mafia biz.

Fredo witnessed his pops catch slugs over "business"
Sonny got murked cuz Carlo wasn't loyal to the family

THEY HAD ALREADY TRIED TO MURK MIKE AT HIS HOME!

Even through all that, Fredo still went along with Roth. SMH. :dwillhuh:

Fredo was too stupid to realize had his plan worked, in any capacity, he would've been murked by Roth anyway cuz he's largely useless.

nah u getting the timeline wrong. after they tried to kill mike, fredo stopped fukking with them. johnny ola called him and he was like "u guys lied to me, never call me again".
 

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nah u getting the timeline wrong. after they tried to kill mike, fredo stopped fukking with them. johnny ola called him and he was like "u guys lied to me, never call me again".

So when Mike & Fredo were in Cuba, why was Fredo still acting like he never met Johnny Ola? But then exposed himself when he got drunk talmbout Johnny took him to that sex show before. :stopitslime:

He couldn't give his brother a heads up while they were in Cuba? :stopitslime: So after Fredo stopped fukkin with them, he still played the part for Hyman Roth.

Fredo had to go:camby:
 

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So when Mike & Fredo were in Cuba, why was Fredo still acting like he never met Johnny Ola? But then exposed himself when he got drunk talmbout Johnny took him to that sex show before. :stopitslime:

He couldn't give his brother a heads up while they were in Cuba? :stopitslime: So after Fredo stopped fukkin with them, he still played the part for Hyman Roth.

Fredo had to go:camby:

cause he had already fukked up. he knew michael would take it badly if he found out he went outside the family. so he was shook the whole time but then when he was drunk he let it slip. that goes to show how stupid fredo was and not a conniving schemer. he was just the family idiot. he only played the part because he was scared. even if he came out and told mike "hey mike i fukked up and told these nikkas where u live but i didnt know they were gonna kill u my bad b" mike woulda at the very least banish him from the family. thats what he should have done, not kill ur own fool of a brother. but we can disagree on this :manny: personally i woulda exiled the stupid fukk but i cant kill my mothers son.
 

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cause he had already fukked up. he knew michael would take it badly if he found out he went outside the family. so he was shook the whole time but then when he was drunk he let it slip. that goes to show how stupid fredo was and not a conniving schemer. he was just the family idiot. he only played the part because he was scared. even if he came out and told mike "hey mike i fukked up and told these nikkas where u live but i didnt know they were gonna kill u my bad b" mike woulda at the very least banish him from the family. thats what he should have done, not kill ur own fool of a brother. but we can disagree on this :manny: personally i woulda exiled the stupid fukk but i cant kill my mothers son.

See, he was more scared about his brother being mad than his brother's safety. Even after Ola & Roth already proved to be untrustworthy.
Fredo was a traitor and put Mike's life at risk TWICE (Tahoe & Cuba). He had to go.

You aint gonna exile Fredo. He's not smart enough to be out in the wind on his own. Feds or some rival family would've kidnapped/arrested him, the entire Corleone org would've been at risk.
 

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See, he was more scared about his brother being mad than his brother's safety. Even after Ola & Roth already proved to be untrustworthy.
Fredo was a traitor and put Mike's life at risk TWICE (Tahoe & Cuba). He had to go.

You aint gonna exile Fredo. He's not smart enough to be out in the wind on his own. Feds or some rival family would've kidnapped/arrested him, the entire Corleone org would've been at risk.

nah he wasnt schemin with roth in cuba. that was all roth on his own. i see what u saying tho, i do think fredo on his own would have been a hazard snitching wise so i cant argue with that.
 
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