Was CNN's War Report really that BIG when it Dropped?

[Marlo Barksdale]

They had NY buzz but nationwide not really. Gotta remember they literally came out in the East vs. West war and were super East Coast so that limited their reach with people picking sides. And this was when radio wasn't ran by monopoly so you probably didn't hear them outside of the East Coast (I know doggone well they got no play in West Tennessee lol). I messed with East Coast hip-hop but Pac had lots of people anti-East Coast.

Here's video of Noreaga appearing on Rap City in 1997 for the first time with Tragedy Khadafi after the album dropped.



Their song "Stick You" was buzzing on the mixtape scene but what really got them magazine coverage was when they released the diss song and video for the "LA,LA," an answer record to Tha Dogg Pound's "New York, New York." The video was crazy with them kidnapping Tha Dogg Pound and torturning them but it never got play on TV and I didn't see it until Youtube. I just read about it in The Source and the infamous East vs. West Vibe Magazine. Here's where they mention the video in the article
https://books.google.com/books?id=O...tcover&rview=1&lr=#v=onepage&q=capone&f=false



Later they came with "T.O.N.Y." and that's what really got them heavy BET Rap City play. So yeah it got East Coast props but it wasn't nationally known like that. Nore getting with Violator is what really blew him up.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Ob4cl didn't flop... not a big smash but it didnt flop.

In general naw, compared to its so called importance, yea it didn't do so great.
Got smashed to lil bits by
Me against the world
E 1999 eternal
DOGG food
Other albums that don't even get called CLASSIC, trumped it too
Cocktales
Gangster's paradise
Mr Smith
Cypress Hill III
In a major way

But hey atleast it regurgitated g raps Mafioso style with better marketing

 

[JayBaldacci]

In general naw, compared to its so called importance, yea it didn't do so great.
Got smashed to lil bits by
Me against the world
E 1999 eternal
DOGG food
Other albums that don't even get called CLASSIC, trumped it too
Cocktales
Gangster's paradise
Mr Smith
Cypress Hill III
In a major way

But hey atleast it regurgitated g raps Mafioso style with better marketing

Well it was coming off 36 and Meth's album, so of course Wu had more exposure than G Rap. Plus the only album aguably better that year wasn't a huge seller either.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Well it was coming off 36 and Meth's album, so of course Wu had more exposure than G Rap. Plus the only album aguably better that year wasn't a huge seller either.

lmao ,the bias is so blatant

 

[JayBaldacci]

lmao ,the bias is so blatant

No... ob4cl was too raw for those albums, don't care about how much it sold. But I know how you love the numbers game so go on and post those certs.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

the major issue with the "it was only big in NYC" replies are...while sort of true.... you have to keep it in the context of back then and not how it is today...... remember in 97-time frame, New York controlled a big portion of the total hip hop market share in fact, that may of been the peak of it influence wise..and consumption of Hip hop wasn't the internet or youtube anything like that, it was radio, vibe/source/XXL, rap city, BET, MTV...

at the time, MTV mostly played jiggy sh*t like puff daddy and mase so that was the tier 1 as far as crossover stuff..so was it that big? no...it wasn't "crossover"..............was it big with the yo mtv raps, rap city, source /XXL crowd....absolutely... and that wasn't just regulated to NYC

it controlled the media,not the market.
So they were allowed to flop and still be praised for bronze medals while others needed a gold medal for equal props

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

No... ob4cl was too raw for those albums, don't care about how much it sold. But I know how you love the numbers game so go on and post those certs.

me against the world
cocktales
e1999 eternal
dogg food
in a major way
etc werent raw? lmao

 

[MrFirst2doit]

it controlled the media,not the market.
So they were allowed to flop and still be praised for bronze medals while others needed a gold medal for equal props

yeah .... all those mid 90s and late 90s classics from wu, nas, fugees, jay, big etc were a result of media brainwashing

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

yeah .... all those mid 90s and late 90s classics from wu, nas, fugees, jay, big etc were a result of media brainwashing

Link to me saying that?

 

[jimihendrixheadband]

alot of east coast albums that are called CLASSIC,actually meant very little when they dropped.

Mobb's catalog
Illmatic
Ob4CL
reasonable doubt
ghostface so called classics
etc etc

Hold on a sec. I see the bs in your post. Try again

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Hold on a sec. I see the bs in your post. Try again

Explain

 

[JayBaldacci]

me against the world
cocktales
e1999 eternal
dogg food
in a major way
etc werent raw? lmao

Not nearly as raw as cuban linx... not even close.

 

[Wacky D]

That was a good thing?
We giving props for biting. I rather give Kool g rap the props. i mean he was somebody,right?

bu bu but

kool g rap couldn't sell raffle tickets.

right?

Like i said ,show me exactly what you're talking about regarding UGK.

Also,as long as you still big up illmatic and make excuses for it's failure,you shouldnt pretend to be so woke. You might be a lil woke to the bias,but if i can recall correctly,you were one of the nikkas trying to use bootlegging (in ny) as an excuse for illmatic's nationwide failure. Illmatic shouldnt be compared to MATW,Doggystyle or any real classic that did decent to great numbers and made real impact during it's run.

Yet you have no problem doing so.

I'm wrong? Name an west coast album that performed like that yet gets equal props.

As long as you're under that spell,dont act like you truly understand.
And yes i'm very extreme and it's justified by extreme east coast bias.

the bolded was never an argument with me. you must be getting me mixed up with someone else. I actually agree with that statement in most cases, and I'm on record doing so.
but I must say, I don't agree with that sentiment in this particular case. I cant think of any west coast classic on the level of an illmatic that didn't sell,
on the level of classics like the war report? sure. but illmatic is a top 5-10 album to me.

if you've been halfway cognizant thru the past 13 years, then I shouldn't have to show you anything regarding the push for UGK.
hell, the way you operate, you should be disrupting every UGK thread where theyre referred to as a top group, or whenever someone calls one of their albums a classic.

its amazing how youre playing dumb on that, but get offended at the mere site of someone appreciating an album by a duo whose legacy rarely even gets any media props. youre even in here arguing with people who simply called it an east coast classic. you don't even want it to get regional props. you have developed a severe inferiority complex breh.

I didn't say just NY, regarding bootlegging. I'm not even from NY. I'm talking about the east coast period. and we already went over this. youre not from up here, so you don't understand. END OF STORY. plus, theres other factors that go into an album selling. illmatic isn't the type of rap album that i'll throw on in hopes of entertaining casual or non-rap fans, or kids.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Not nearly as raw as cuban linx... not even close.

meaning what exactly?
how so?

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

bu bu but

kool g rap couldn't sell raffle tickets.

right?





the bolded was never an argument with me. you must be getting me mixed up with someone else. I actually agree with that statement in most cases, and I'm on record doing so.
but I must say, I don't agree with that sentiment in this particular case. I cant think of any west coast classic on the level of an illmatic that didn't sell,
on the level of classics like the war report? sure. but illmatic is a top 5-10 album to me.

if you've been halfway cognizant thru the past 13 years, then I shouldn't have to show you anything regarding the push for UGK.
hell, the way you operate, you should be disrupting every UGK thread where theyre referred to as a top group, or whenever someone calls one of their albums a classic.

its amazing how youre playing dumb on that, but get offended at the mere site of someone appreciating an album by a duo whose legacy rarely even gets any media props. youre even in here arguing with people who simply called it an east coast classic. you don't even want it to get regional props. you have developed a severe inferiority complex breh.

I didn't say just NY, regarding bootlegging. I'm not even from NY. I'm talking about the east coast period. and we already went over this. youre not from up here, so you don't understand. END OF STORY. plus, theres other factors that go into an album selling. illmatic isn't the type of rap album that i'll throw on in hopes of entertaining casual or non-rap fans, or kids.

This alone proves you're one of them