Was Alonso Harris really a villain?

[NYChase718]

he was a cop, so yeah.

 

[Killer Instinct]

But I think he wouldn’t have set up Jake if he took the money to make the boys feel like he’s in. He didn’t take the money and it made them feel like he’s going to rat and he needed to be disposed of.

You legitimately just answered your question.

 

[Able Archer 83]

I don't think he had any honor or nobility, so yes, he was a villain. Dealing with the crime in the Jungle--however effective he was at it--was ultimately incidental to his true goals.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Ask the black neighborhood that chose to turn their back on him at the end of the movie

The nikka was prepared to use his son's life as a way to get away from Jake taking his ass in

I'm only using because it's relevant to the movie

Alonzo was a trash ass nikka

 

[MartyMcFly]

Trash dude with trash morals and only out for himself. Yes he’s a villain

 

[dblive]

Ok I rewatched Training Day the other day and the quotes he made really question his morality. I know the movie makes him out to be a villain especially with his treatment towards Jake, but with the work he put in on the streets and putting the big fish in jail, does that really make him a villain? nikka said they built JAILS because of me, i know hes tooting his own horn but he also went down his arrest record. He stole from the Sandman but that was just another drug dealer. He killed that retired cop (scene where he shot him with a shotgun in the chair), but he manipulated him and said that the world is better off without him because he sold drugs to kids. Obviously Alonso had scruples and did what he had to do to get those big-time dealers off the street. NOw the obvious really bad thing he really did in the movie was set Jake up to be killed by the Mexicans. But that was on Jake because he wasn't ready for the slimy dealings in the Narc world and had strong ideals. What yall think? PS. First time I noticed Terry Crews in the movie

I agree with you for the most part; I like Alonzo’s character. It’s a dirty game, might as well be good at it.

I’ve watched this movie a lot. Never picked up that the white dude was a former cop. I thought he was a dope dealer trying to get out the game, that Alonzo had on the hook for “taxes”

 

[R=G]

he'd screw over anyone that was in that movie to get what he wanted, that was the whole point, and why everyone helped jake at the end. alonso had been screwing all of them over, probably for years. the lead mexican said that in the poker scene, said alonso doesn't respect no one. the only person he might not outright kill or setup in that movie was his son. the only reason he hadn't done anything to his crew was bc they made thing's easier for him. if he ever needed to, he'd turn on any or all of them in a heartbeat. this is what men like that do. they have no honor.

Didnt he have his son in the crossfire at the end? Lol

 

[CarbonBraddock]

Didnt he have his son in the crossfire at the end? Lol

Maybe, i only seen the movie once, like 5 years ago.

 

[Roid Jones]

Yes he was a villain, ya'll need to stop playing mental twister, it's perfectly ok to be honest about liking the bad guy

 

[obarth]

Alonzo literally pressured Jake to do drugs as a long con to get out of his gambling debts

He acted like Jake not getting his brains blown out in a bath tub was some predestined last test to prove he belonged on the task force. In reality, Jake saving the vato's cousin from being raped was why he survived that shyt. Alonzo was ready to go about his day when he saw that shyt originally

 

[Able Archer 83]

Alonzo's "pine oil" speech still makes me laugh.

 

[MajesticLion]

Retired cop?

 

[semicko82]

Even Denzel thought the character should have been killed off at the end.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

I agree with you for the most part; I like Alonzo’s character. It’s a dirty game, might as well be good at it.

I’ve watched this movie a lot. Never picked up that the white dude was a former cop. I thought he was a dope dealer trying to get out the game, that Alonzo had on the hook for “taxes”

Retired cop?

Yeah Roger was a former cop, it’s how he got info on Jake and how him and Alonso was so tight, also confirmed by the wikis. I also think he was Alonso’s mentor.

 

[Phantom Dreamer]

I would’ve like to see a prequel, especially if him leading up to his beef with the Russians.

aren't they supposed to be doing one? I read that on this board a while back.