Vincent Kennedy McMahon squishing WCW appreciation

[Wacky D]

I said WWE didn't have any comp to "keep them on their toes" and its the truth. WCW was that rival that WWF/E always needed in order to have a decent product. With them being the only big show in town they can put out garbage and don't have to worry about anyone upstaging them. And obviously if WCW was still around it would have been because they were still a successful mainstream company. TNA is ok but it has never been on the level as a whole as WCW or WWE to be considered competiion. And most people look at them as second rate who recycle old wrestlers over and over again. Though I admit that some of their product has been good over the years. They just need to keep with it and cut away all the dead weight.

thats bullchit.

you shouldnt have to have competition in order to at least be watchable. and i remember numerous years in the '90s when wcw & others were around, where the wwf was wack juice. and in the '80s, wrestling heads looked down on the wwf as commercial sellout chit.

and if youre a wrestling fan, you shouldnt be worried about a singular promotion being kept on their toes unless you have some sort of stock or financian investment in the company. otherwise, youre nothing but a mark.

and that whole "they recycle old wrestlers" argument is propaganda stemming from the brainwashing job that the wwf did to casual fans in the '90s during the monday night wars. every promotion recycles talent from other promotions, and the wwf is the most notorious for it actually. this all goes back to what im saying about brand recognition & brainwashing. youve been duped, and im here to save you.

and yes, thru the majority of their existence, tna has put a better product on the table than the wwe. i see that you never really bothered to give the promotion a fair look, judging by your comments so theres no need for a back-n-forth.

 

[Tide Run This]

Can't believe people were actually happy to see WCW get bought out and killed by McMahon. Didn't know Gerald Brisco posted on the Coli.

 

[Reggie]

thats bullchit.

you shouldnt have to have competition in order to at least be watchable. and i remember numerous years in the '90s when wcw & others were around, where the wwf was wack juice. and in the '80s, wrestling heads looked down on the wwf as commercial sellout chit.

and if youre a wrestling fan, you shouldnt be worried about a singular promotion being kept on their toes unless you have some sort of stock or financian investment in the company. otherwise, youre nothing but a mark.

and that whole "they recycle old wrestlers" argument is propaganda stemming from the brainwashing job that the wwf did to casual fans in the '90s during the monday night wars. every promotion recycles talent from other promotions, and the wwf is the most notorious for it actually. this all goes back to what im saying about brand recognition & brainwashing. youve been duped, and im here to save you.

and yes, thru the majority of their existence, tna has put a better product on the table than the wwe. i see that you never really bothered to give the promotion a fair look, judging by your comments so theres no need for a back-n-forth.

Yeah I want another promotion to keep WWE on their toes because without that we get the bad wrestling that they have given us over the years. I have checked out quite a bit of TNA and they are still second rate. Any company still featuring Hulk Hogan and Sting at this point cant be taken seriously. They may have better overall matches when they aren't overbooked as hell but overall they have just as many bad segments and whatnot as the E.

 

[DANJ!]

Actually they were turning things around at that point.

WCW from January 2001 - March 2001 was putting on some entertaining shows. Better than anything from 1999-2000, IMO. They had a great young pool of talent who had potential, mixed in with some veterans.

But it was too late by then... it didn't matter by 2001 that they had formed a nice cruiserweight division, or that Lance Storm's push was a bright spot, or that Booker and Steiner were doin' a good job in the main event despite their surroundings... because this all came after WCW had spent outrageous amounts of money and made far less. Whether Vince had purchased it or not, WCW was already on its way off of TNT and out the door. Turner didn't have the control he used to have, AOL/Time Warner didn't give a fukk about wrestling, and then they took a look at them books and made their decision. WCW was over, breh. The only alternative thing that could've happened is Eric Bischoff buying it and then driving it into the ground like he was already doing in '99-2000. People act like WCW was on its way to thriving and weathering their storms and then Vince tossed his money around and took it away from us... WCW was going off the fukking air either way, right before Vince purchased it in the middle of that week. That Monday, it was announced that the final Nitro was airing next week... THEN the purchase happened. shyt was done, Vince or no Vince.

 

[malbaker86]

Another thing is that WCW use to be in big time arena's in the mid 90's and they were SOLD OUT.

pyro game was

Madusa trashing the WWF women's title

War Games

WCW Thunder (until it got trash)

WCW Saturday Night

I think we all just love WCW more so now cause we grew up with it and it's gone and gone FOREVER. WWE doesn't even acknowledge WCW anymore and we only have the dwindling Youtube and Daily Motion videos as memories

 

[Gang$tarr]

But it was too late by then... it didn't matter by 2001 that they had formed a nice cruiserweight division, or that Lance Storm's push was a bright spot, or that Booker and Steiner were doin' a good job in the main event despite their surroundings... because this all came after WCW had spent outrageous amounts of money and made far less. Whether Vince had purchased it or not, WCW was already on its way off of TNT and out the door. Turner didn't have the control he used to have, AOL/Time Warner didn't give a fukk about wrestling, and then they took a look at them books and made their decision. WCW was over, breh. The only alternative thing that could've happened is Eric Bischoff buying it and then driving it into the ground like he was already doing in '99-2000. People act like WCW was on its way to thriving and weathering their storms and then Vince tossed his money around and took it away from us... WCW was going off the fukking air either way, right before Vince purchased it in the middle of that week. That Monday, it was announced that the final Nitro was airing next week... THEN the purchase happened. shyt was done, Vince or no Vince.

Any investors that would of bought it would have been caking more than TNA off the library alone lol Would of been much more likely to succeed off the history of the promotion, and you know damn well some cable channel would want that programming, just look at spike and Sinclair grasping for straws. 10 years later under completely different management shyt could of bin real different rite now

Vince pulled KGB trickery and got first dibs when most people didn't even know how cheap they could get it for or that it was even up for sale. That's some bullchit... Like jericho said, if he knew how much it was going for he would of put some money together himself lol

 

[PTBG]

at Vince & WWF during the Monday Night Wars. I was WCW ride or die WCW in-ring from 96-99>WWE. Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Mysterio, Benoit, Malenko, Raven, Saturn, DDP, Konnan, Ultimo Dragon, Billy Kidman, Juvie, Kanyon, etc. To me, I knew WCW was practically dead once the Radicals jumped ship. IMO, even though the E had better storylines, character development, making new stars, etc. from '98 and onward, the only thing the E was not better than WCW at was from an in-ring standpoint, but once WCW lost the Radicals, Jericho, etc. they lost the only positive thing they had on the E. Even though WCW was on the decline since early 1999, they were still better in-ring wise. But, like Eddie G said, once WCW lost the back-bone of there company, it was a wrap for WCW.

Plus, during the Monday Night Wars, Goldberg>Stone Cold. I was on that Goldberg wave heavy. Still at fukking bytchass Kevin Nash ending the streak. Even as a little youngin' I was expecting at least Hogan to end the streak, but fukking Kevin Nash?

But, the end of WCW was one of the worst things to happen to the business. Since when was it a good thing having no competition? Even during those #fukkery days from 1999-2001, I was still riding with WCW until the bitter end. I would still watch RAW too, and I knew WWF was so much better, and enjoyed it more, but deep down WCW was still my shyt.

 

[Hammer]

he pretty much killed wrestling with that...it was AWFUL after that happened...

and he didn't even capitalize over wcw with that...wwe was even worse after this and the whole smackdown/raw draft killed any chance the wwe had of recovering

 

[Wacky D]

Yeah I want another promotion to keep WWE on their toes because without that we get the bad wrestling that they have given us over the years. I have checked out quite a bit of TNA and they are still second rate. Any company still featuring Hulk Hogan and Sting at this point cant be taken seriously. They may have better overall matches when they aren't overbooked as hell but overall they have just as many bad segments and whatnot as the E.

why? why the hell do you care if the wwe is on its toes or not? if theyre putting out a wack product, then dont watch the chit. you dont owe them anything. lol.

and yes, even when there was "competition", there were numerous years where the wwe's product was arguably just as bad as it is now. this whole "they need competition" slogan is a hoax, and iirc, the 1st time i heard it mentioned may have been the legends of wrestling roundtable. they seem to start alot of misleading internet slogans on that show.

so what if hogan & sting are featured? theyre in commisioner type roles anyway. meanwhile, the wwe stays featuring older wrestlers themselves. i bet youre amped for the next overrated undertaker wrestlemania match, arent you? the funniest thing about it is, if hogan or sting or any of these "recycled" wrestlers went to the wwe tommorrow, you wouldnt be saying any of the chit that youre talkin.

what TNA have you watched? flicking the channel here-n-there isnt saying much. and im not even referring to the current state of TNA because i havnt watched much of either promotion in a while. im referring to the majority of TNA's existence, which youre obviously not up on.

at Vince & WWF during the Monday Night Wars. I was WCW ride or die WCW in-ring from 96-99>WWE. Jericho, Eddie Guerrero, Mysterio, Benoit, Malenko, Raven, Saturn, DDP, Konnan, Ultimo Dragon, Billy Kidman, Juvie, Kanyon, etc. To me, I knew WCW was practically dead once the Radicals jumped ship. IMO, even though the E had better storylines, character development, making new stars, etc. from '98 and onward, the only thing the E was not better than WCW at was from an in-ring standpoint, but once WCW lost the Radicals, Jericho, etc. they lost the only positive thing they had on the E. Even though WCW was on the decline since early 1999, they were still better in-ring wise. But, like Eddie G said, once WCW lost the back-bone of there company, it was a wrap for WCW.

Plus, during the Monday Night Wars, Goldberg>Stone Cold. I was on that Goldberg wave heavy. Still at fukking bytchass Kevin Nash ending the streak. Even as a little youngin' I was expecting at least Hogan to end the streak, but fukking Kevin Nash?

But, the end of WCW was one of the worst things to happen to the business. Since when was it a good thing having no competition? Even during those #fukkery days from 1999-2001, I was still riding with WCW until the bitter end. I would still watch RAW too, and I knew WWF was so much better, and enjoyed it more, but deep down WCW was still my shyt.

'96-98?

wcw was ALWAYS eternally superior to the wwf in-ring. the only time it wasnt, was in '00-01 after vince raided the wcw & ecw rosters.