Vince staples shows are white people humiliation rituals

[Marlo Barksdale]

that also could (should ) be interpreted as playful engagement... it would definitely be in alignment with his deadpan approach

akin to how the op is ostensibly "humiliation" .... but it really isn't

everyone patting themselves on the back for being smart here.... so lets be smart ?

Nah you missing it. He really don’t like them and that’s how he really feel

You must be YT and not realize this how Black ppl think. Having a sea of YT people saying “n!gga” is terrible and that being your core fanbase is . I couldn’t deal with it personally no lie.

 

[FlimFlam]

Nah you missing it. He really don’t like them and that’s how he really feel

You must be YT and not realize this how Black ppl think. Having a sea of YT people saying “n!gga” is terrible and that being your core fanbase is . I couldn’t deal with it personally no lie.

im not missing anything... theres a difference between playful jabs and genuine expressions of contempt... again refer to opeining post

these public figures know how far they can take the ceremonial flogging before it stops being cute and offends the target audience . its a shtick... performance... even if the inspiration is coming from a real place

(and i have no issue with vince btw)

 

[Don Jesus]

Explain Nipsey Hussle’s fanbase

They’re majority black and Mexican

 

[Zero]

 

[Astroslik]

His Recent album is hard

 

[Novembruh]

Vince doesn’t music that Black people rock with (no pun intended). It’s very left field, ironic since he’s really a super crip who was bout that life.

This more who he is, personally.


But it isn’t the type of music he does. He’s kinda stuck in that Odd Future lane that most Black people don’t really mess with cus you can’t play it anyhere.

I mean... but no.

Vince's early shyt was super thug.
If anything, the gangster shyt he does drop on the latest works are snuck in, but distilled into the most pinkies-up grimy shyt ever to border the Pacific Ocean.

He's just doing what people who actually about that shyt, but have intelligence/means and manage to make it into their 30s do.
You grow up.
Q lowkey doing the same thing, he just has a different ear for beats.
And... folks talking down about it, too.
Meanwhile, Vince been speaking the very stuff people love from his interviews in his music, but because it isn't danceable, you saying black folk don't fukk with it?
What a reductive statement.

Not every artist needs to be an 'everywhere' artist.
Same mentality that had folks talmbout 'nobody listen to Jay-Z/Nas/Cole/Kendrick,'etc.
And a forfeiture of nuance in the face of vibe is directly detrimental to the artform.

Granted. I'm biased. I've thrown up my share of Cs and buried basically everyone I spent my teens/20s with... so Dark Times basically spoke directly to my soul more than it would for most. But... culturally we desperately gotta rebuild that wall between hip-hop and rap

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

im not missing anything... theres a difference between playful jabs and genuine expressions of contempt... again refer to opeining post

these public figures know how far they can take the ceremonial flogging before it stops being cute and offends the target audience . its a shtick... performance... even if the inspiration is coming from a real place

(and i have no issue with vince btw)

I’m feeling like Vince now because you’re likely the naive people he’s talking about.

He frustrated and lashing out. Luckily, people like you think he’s playing so it doesn’t mess up his bag.

But he really in a sunken place.

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

I mean... but no.

Vince's early shyt was super thug.
If anything, the gangster shyt he does drop on the latest works are snuck in, but distilled into the most pinkies-up grimy shyt ever to border the Pacific Ocean.

He's just doing what people who actually about that shyt, but have intelligence/means and manage to make it into their 30s do.
You grow up.
Q lowkey doing the same thing, he just has a different ear for beats.
And... folks talking down about it, too.
Meanwhile, Vince been speaking the very stuff people love from his interviews in his music, but because it isn't danceable, you saying black folk don't fukk with it?
What a reductive statement.

Not every artist needs to be an 'everywhere' artist.
Same mentality that had folks talmbout 'nobody listen to Jay-Z/Nas/Cole/Kendrick,'etc.
And a forfeiture of nuance in the face of vibe is directly detrimental to the artform.

Granted. I'm biased. I've thrown up my share of Cs and buried basically everyone I spent my teens/20s with... so Dark Times basically spoke directly to my soul more than it would for most. But... culturally we desperately gotta rebuild that wall between hip-hop and rap

The beats he picks aren't really gonna get play outside of that hipster YT audience that he has. He’s said it himself.

He doesn’t make music that would easily appeal to a Black audience and it resonates more with that festival crowd.

He got stuck with that audience even though he highkey despises everything they stand for.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Explain Nipsey Hussle’s fanbase

They’re majority black and Mexican

It's a reflection of LA, and the fact that his music was listened to in the streets because when he was on the rise, LA rap was not played on the radio unless it was Kid Ink or established acts from the 90's.


Plus, it's not like Nipsey's introduction to people was OF and Mac Miller, it was literally selling Mixtapes on Slauson.

 

[FlimFlam]

I’m feeling like Vince now because you’re likely the naive people he’s talking about.

He frustrated and lashing out. Luckily, people like you think he’s playing so it doesn’t mess up his bag.

But he really in a sunken place.

excuse me for not being "deep" enough to interpret using reparations and black power to goad a white person into singing and dancing as contempt

how can one miss such things.

 

[Novembruh]

The beats he picks aren't really gonna get play outside of that hipster YT audience that he has. He’s said it himself.

He doesn’t make music that would easily appeal to a Black audience and it resonates more with that festival crowd.

He got stuck with that audience even though he highkey despises everything they stand for.

His most recent album is full of soul samples and live instrumentation.
just because those things don't resonate with you does not mean they do not resonate with a Black audience.

...Be around better Black people.

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

excuse me for not being "deep" enough to interpret using reparations and black power to goad a white person into singing and dancing as contempt

how can one miss such things.

This is one of them instances where if you’re Black you know exactly what he’s feeling and doing.

It’s certain vibes that only those from it can truly understanding it on some FUBU type ish.

His most recent album is full of soul samples and live instrumentation.
just because those things don't resonate with you does not mean they do not resonate with a Black audience.

...Be around better Black people.

If that was the case he’d have more Black people at his shows and played at Black functions in real life. It’s okay to be mainly internet with a majority YT fanbase. It is what it is.

Like you not hearing Vince do any HBCU homecoming concerts cus that’s not the music he makes.

 

[Novembruh]

If that was the case he’d have more Black people at his shows and played at Black functions in real life. It’s okay to be mainly internet with a majority YT fanbase. It is what it is.

Like you not hearing Vince do any HBCU homecoming concerts cus that’s not the music he makes.

1) ain't not HBCUs in California.
2) Vince makes inescapably California music.
3) HBCUs are gonna want that Martin energy. Vince pretty much only comes stocked with Malcolm. Of fukking course he's not gonna be asked to perform at an HBCU.
4) THEY DON'T LET CRIPS PLAY HBCUs. Obviously.

You making a direct tie between who consumes something and who it is made for and I feel like that's... the root of your problem here.

If more white people than black people are resonating with the damn near militant pro-black shyt Vince has been saying since at least Hell Can Wait... that's a problem with the people; not the product.

And tbh? Reducing the listenability of a song by a black person to 'can it be danced to/played in the car' is some small-minded CAC mentality. Black people exist places other than their rides and clubs. Everyone I know who listens to Vince is black. Just say you can't get past a beat to hear a message and KIM.

Mans literally made an uplifting-ass song trying to put the youth on game on his last album that can be danced to, since you need that so badly.

 

[FlimFlam]

This is one of them instances where if you’re Black you know exactly what he’s feeling and doing.

It’s certain vibes that only those from it can truly understanding it on some FUBU type ish.



If that was the case he’d have more Black people at his shows and played at Black functions in real life. It’s okay to be mainly internet with a majority YT fanbase. It is what it is.

Like you not hearing Vince do any HBCU homecoming concerts cus that’s not the music he makes.

we clearly came up different is reducing black power and and reparations into a comedic incitement for of a group of white people is "fubu vibes"

(and id like to reiterate for the broader audience, i dont have an issue with vince... im moreso attackin the concept of this supposedly being "humiliation "... vince aint even say thst)

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

1) ain't not HBCUs in California.
2) Vince makes inescapably California music.
3) HBCUs are gonna want that Martin energy. Vince pretty much only comes stocked with Malcolm. Of fukking course he's not gonna be asked to perform at an HBCU.
4) THEY DON'T LET CRIPS PLAY HBCUs. Obviously.

You making a direct tie between who consumes something and who it is made for and I feel like that's... the root of your problem here.

If more white people than black people are resonating with the damn near militant pro-black shyt Vince has been saying since at least Hell Can Wait... that's a problem with the people; not the product.

And tbh? Reducing the listenability of a song by a black person to 'can it be danced to/played in the car' is some small-minded CAC mentality. Black people exist places other than their rides and clubs. Everyone I know who listens to Vince is black. Just say you can't get past a beat to hear a message and KIM.

Mans literally made an uplifting-ass song trying to put the youth on game on his last album that can be danced to, since you need that so badly.

That is not a song to dance to . You thinking too macro instead of realizing what the target demographic (Black youth) likes and relates too.

This ain’t a Africana Studies class, it’s music. It’s okay to admit he doesn’t make music that is easy to consume to the average listener. He has a cool niche audience.

we clearly came up different is reducing black power and and reparations into a comedic incitement for of a group of white people is "fubu vibes"

(and id like to reiterate for the broader audience, i dont have an issue with vince... im moreso attackin the concept of this supposedly being "humiliation "... vince aint even say thst)

Again, this is how I can easily tell you’re not Black and that’s the disconnect with the nuances (same way they get the interpretations wrong on Genius).

Same way you gotta remember that most of the people on here aren’t Black. It’s easy to tell and a reminder of why more Blacks need to document and commentate on our history and culture.