Vince bringing in the NWO to kill the company in storyline actually killed the company in reality
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Yep as others mentioned, WWF fell off during the Invasion angle. The nWo angle actually made it better for a bit until they had guys like Big Show, Booker T and HBK in it 
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Imagine face Sting and face Austin face to face in 2001...sad.
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I was watching old episodes and austin did the exact same spot to HHH
Everything is recycled people just forget most of it
Austin not willing to do business with Scott Hall is what ended it before it could really cook.
Rock/Hogan was the end of the magic of WWF.
Rock/Hogan was the end of the magic of WWF.
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The WCW/NWO in WWE was probably the most botched potentially great storyline in WWE history
shyt should've had new fresh matchups and storylines for years from the infusion of WCW talent
shyt should've had new fresh matchups and storylines for years from the infusion of WCW talent
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This. In Prichard podcast, he told the story of hall being on Antabuse. After hearing the story and rewatchimg it, I can see he was kind of out of it. In JRs podcast, he tried to justified stone colds unprofessional ass conduct by implying hall wasnt high tier. Thats insane, hall had the charisma, mic work and when motivated the in ring work to go up with anyone. In the late 90s he was nearly as over as anyone else.
On a larger level, it was said that for both the invasion angle and the nwo angle, the wwe stars didn't want wcw to go over bc they tried to run them out of business. This is the stupid rationale I've ever heard of. 1) the angle doesn't work if the wcw guys don't win bc the fans are expecting wwe to go over and the wcw guys aren't established as a threat until the do so. Therefore when wwe eventually did, it was predictable and wcw wasnt built up enough to elevate wwe in doing so 2) ITS ON WWE PROGRAMMING SO THE WWE WINs REGARDLESS. The fan of today isn't going to go, well wcw was really better bc they won...they are aware of the dynamic that wcw is owned by wwe. This isnt like ecw invasion. And even if they did, wwe is the benefactor by ratings. These wrasslers take themselves so serious they spite themselves.
Thats cool and all..I agree for the most part..the downturn may have started post WM 17 but Cena rise and continued super push killed off whatever entertainment value they had and they never recovered either, they tried to coast off the good will of the Attitude era while not listening to their fan base...Cena should have never been the guy for that long and to make shyt even worse they did the same shyt with Reigns..another bum who can be entertaining but should been a IC champ at best. Which is why they find themselves in the position they are in now..a roster full of ex TNA bums and indy nerds and a dying product. shyt can't die quick enough for me personally.
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If anything it let people know that Vince is a one trick pony who stumbled into the attitude era while it was propped up by his son and to a smaller degree than most people think, Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara.
Vince is not a competent booker. He is on the Ole Anderson tier (if that) but he is great at making his shyt ideas look big time and polished. Fumbling the rehashing of the storyline that nearly put him out of business exposed him greatly. Vince has been living off of the good faith he had in the 80's for 30 years. And the decline in interest shows this.
So yeah the NWO was the figurehead but it was Vince gaining full contol of the wrestling business in the US that the shark was jumped.
Vince is not a competent booker. He is on the Ole Anderson tier (if that) but he is great at making his shyt ideas look big time and polished. Fumbling the rehashing of the storyline that nearly put him out of business exposed him greatly. Vince has been living off of the good faith he had in the 80's for 30 years. And the decline in interest shows this.
So yeah the NWO was the figurehead but it was Vince gaining full contol of the wrestling business in the US that the shark was jumped.
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What did you expect hogan was old as fukk Nash brittle and hall drinking problem 
The BEST thing to come from that angle, other than that, toss the rest in the bushes
WWE lowkey had some great comedy moments around this period
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Cena would not have been a problem if they didn’t push him at the expense of everybody else. The WWE beat it into fans heads that Cena was THE guy and no one else mattered.