Video of yesterday's russian plane crash (NSFW)

[tru_m.a.c]

I heard families didn't want the video being relased to the public?

shyt do you blame em. That crash right there was scarier than the nose dive crashes I've seen. That's like the ultimate fear everyone has on take off (I'm a consultant, and that shyt still gets me sometimes).

The joint straight up bottomed out so fast. But it was so slow, that you know they had enough time to feel panic, fear and helplessness.

My stomach jumped.

 

[porque]

Here we go with this stupid argument. There are a shyt ton more people driving cars and the qualifications for driving a car is a lot lower too. The two are not comparable.

Anywho.

Riding in a plane, if it goes down, you're most likely going to die.

flying is incredibly safe

especially in the US

and you actually have a good chance of surviving a plane crash as incredible as that sounds

 

[mortuus est]

when did people first start flying planes?

 

[RealAssanova]

Here we go with this stupid argument. There are a shyt ton more people driving cars and the qualifications for driving a car is a lot lower too. The two are not comparable.

Anywho.

It still boggles my mind how they have not made any progress in preventing death in plane crashes. They should at least install parachutes, or those seats in jets where they eject the passenger into the air so they may float to safety. Riding in a plane, if it goes down, you're most likely going to die.

I guess its the fear of uncertainty that makes people anxious of flying. Flying is real safe. Pilots are trained day in and day out to be as proficient as possible. Aircraft are also routinely checked and inspected, otherwise airlines face heavy consequences.

As for your 2nd point, its a toss up. The average human will say and agree with you, whereas those in aerospace and engineering will say its not possible and those that oversee the operation of the airline will say its not economically feasible.

So really, all you can do is either:

a) avoid flying unless necessary

b) say a prayer before and during the flight

c) take comfort knowing that every dog has his day. If you meant to die in a plane crash, you'll die in a plane crash.

 

[ThugLife]

i know breh. Remember this one?



they were at full thrust and even if they pitched down to break the stall, they wouldn't have had sufficient enough altitude to recover at that rate of speed. CofG's bruh. That shyt is

I worry bout going past V1 and encountering an emergency.

I know alot about planes, yep V1 thats good stuff right there

 

[RealAssanova]

shyt do you blame em. That crash right there was scarier than the nose dive crashes I've seen. That's like the ultimate fear everyone has on take off (I'm a consultant, and that shyt still gets me sometimes).

The joint straight up bottomed out so fast. But it was so slow, that you know they had enough time to feel panic, fear and helplessness.

My stomach jumped.

i kno breh. That 10-15 second stall and subsequent nose-dive

 

[Exiled Martian]

I wouldn't think it'd be the pilots fault as they are primarily responsible for weight and balance calculations. The loadmaster however is responsible for that AND the safe securing of the cargo. Pilots usually only come down for their standard walk-arounds only to go back and finish the rest of the pre-departure work. So the shyt could've came unfastened during taxi or t/o and shifted as soon as the climb began.

Sh!tty way to go out man...real sh!tty. Bout 1200-1500 ft off the ground, alarms begin going off, panic starts to set in, you take your attention away from flying the plane tryna figure out wtf is going on not noticing the fact that the plane is losing altitude and about to enter into a dive.

I can't even begin to imagine what was going on in that flight deck.

I heard families didn't want the video being relased to the public?

At a commercial level the mass & balance is done by the ops department! The pilots or rather captain merely cosigns the sheet after checking & giving it the seal of approval post walk about & fuelling! I did read the report any moons ago but can't recall the final verdict! Maybe you're right of load unsecuring on climb out causing aft movement & a huge CG imbalance of sort! I reckon there was a misunderstanding between crew and cargo loaders on the ground! Either way they were in a hurry to leave Bagram & from what I recall reading elected to use a non orthodox departure (very steep climb out to reach altitude quicker) so that they could evade possible RPG attacks and gunfire from rebels etc! This steep climb out choice + crazy load movement = imminent crash

True dat at ~1200 AGL with several warning going off even all those hours spent in the sim practicing emergency drills can't help you...in fact they did (as they do so often post crashes) recreate the Same flight parameters in the sim & none of the pilots were able to rescue (15 attempts) the stall recovery! Like you said earlier they were doomed from V1 onwards & by the time they hit V2 it was obvious the weight had moved back and that nose went shooting up in the sky and BAM the ever so similar wing drop & loss of lift.....I guess we can seek solace in the fact that every crash makes aviation much safer

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

And dudes tried to come at me for not liking to fly.

i rode a plane for the first time since I was a kid last year, it was terrifying. I had to stop myself from having a panic attack the whole ride. I just kept thinking, its my luck, if a plane is going to go down it'll be the one I'm on. I was also sick, it was just a terrible experience all around. I would've been fine if I took some xanax before the flight though. I didn't expect to be so nervous.

 

[RealAssanova]

At a commercial level the mass & balance is done by the ops department! The pilots or rather captain merely cosigns the sheet after checking & giving it the seal of approval post walk about & fuelling! I did read the report any moons ago but can't recall the final verdict! Maybe you're right of load unsecuring on climb out causing aft movement & a huge CG imbalance of sort! I reckon there was a misunderstanding between crew and cargo loaders on the ground! Either way they were in a hurry to leave Bagram & from what I recall reading elected to use a non orthodox departure (very steep climb out to reach altitude quicker) so that they could evade possible RPG attacks and gunfire from rebels etc! This steep climb out choice + crazy load movement = imminent crash

True dat at ~1200 AGL with several warning going off even all those hours spent in the sim practicing emergency drills can't help you...in fact they did (as they do so often post crashes) recreate the Same flight parameters in the sim & none of the pilots were able to rescue (15 attempts) the stall recovery! Like you said earlier they were doomed from V1 onwards & by the time they hit V2 it was obvious the weight had moved back and that nose went shooting up in the sky and BAM the ever so similar wing drop & loss of lift.....I guess we can seek solace in the fact that every crash makes aviation much safer

i read about that too. Dat shyt reminded me of em short-field take-offs. Gain as much altitude in as little distance possible. And ain't surprised in the mock-up sim's, no one was able to recover. The minute that plane started hovering, i knew it was a wrap. Engines at full thrust, angle of attack nearing the stall angle, not enough lift being generated over the wings....

 

[Exiled Martian]

i read about that too. Dat shyt reminded me of em short-field take-offs. Gain as much altitude in as little distance possible. And ain't surprised in the mock-up sim's, no one was able to recover. The minute that plane started hovering, i knew it was a wrap. Engines at full thrust, angle of attack nearing the stall angle, not enough lift being generated over the wings....

They say when Mr Bernoulli throws in the towel, Mr Newton then takes over

 

[RealAssanova]

They say when Mr Bernoulli throws in the towel, Mr Newton then takes over

but i never liked neither of em though

 

[skeetsinternal]

Passengers should have stepped off the plane before it crashed start at 8:00

 

[Numpsay]

Why did I watch that knowing I have to fly Thursday night.

 

[Exiled Martian]

when did people first start flying planes?

Two wrongs don't make a right, but two Wrights (in 1903) made an airplane & that is what kick started the whole air transport evolution, which to this day is still regarded as one of man's single greatest achievements!

The answer to your above question resides in HERE

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

breh, flying is safe.

How many times a year do you hear about a commercial jet going down compared to the number of times car accidents occur per day?

It's not about flying being safe. It's just that when it does crash you are going to die. That's a rational fear. First comes the falling feeling Then impact, then fire. It's perfectly sane not to want to board a missile.