Video of yesterday's russian plane crash (NSFW)

[Exiled Martian]

Russian B737 Crash at Kazan.
Fifty-two people died as a passenger Boeing crashed while landing in the city of Kazan in central Russia on Saturday, according to the Emergencies Ministry.

The passenger aircraft Boeing 737-400 operated by the regional Tatarstan airline exploded after crash-landing in the airport of Kazan at 15:25 GMT, according to Interfax. The flight was coming from Moscow Domodedovo airport.

Reports of casualties vary. According to a spokeswoman from the Emergencies Ministry, 52 people were on board the plane and all are feared dead. Another report from the Federal Air Transport Agency said that 50 people - including six crew members - were on board, all of whom were killed.


The plane caught on fire after the crash landing. The flames were extinguished one hour into the disaster, ITAR-TASS reported.

An emergency services source told Interfax that the pilots made a mistake when entering the second lap, causing the plane to crash. However, the source added that there is a possibility that it was a technical failure.

The Federal Air Transport Agency, on its behalf, said the plane attempted to land three times before crashing.

All the forces of the Volga Regional Emergency Center are on high alert

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No pics as this occurred at nighttime....just grainy CCTV footage really

 

[Exiled Martian]

Says something like:
"I was a passenger of the flight on the very same plane 4 hours before, from Kazan to Moscow. Don't let those

fool you that it was weather related or a pilot mistake, the airplane was broken, we almost crashed on landing at moscow."

So apparently the Russian media or airliner per se is trying to blame pilot error as the cause of accident but according to above passenger the aircraft itself had some maintenance issues

 

[MikelArteta]

russia has some of the worst aircraft out there

remember the hockey team that perished?

i remember i had to fly from moscow to this other airport on some like old 80s jet it felt like

 

[RealAssanova]

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No pics as this occurred at nighttime....just grainy CCTV footage really

Go-arounds are lethal breh. That's how a good portion of accidents happen, especially if the plane is having technical difficulties. They gotta climb, re-establish the approach pattern (pending any holdings), configure the aircraft and come back in. During any of this, the situation can get much worst by tenfold.

 

[Exiled Martian]

Go-arounds are lethal breh. That's how a good portion of accidents happen, especially if the plane is having technical difficulties. They gotta climb, re-establish the approach pattern (pending any holdings), configure the aircraft and come back in. During any of this, the situation can get much worst by tenfold.

Agreed...unstabilized approach during G.A whilst utilising TOGA thrust = recipe for disaster...The B737 in a two-engine go-around, if not properly managed, can be a real handful to keep control off... it all comes back to the A.N.C adage...Aviate Navigate Communicate...and the most important part of Aviate is TOGA (take off go around thrust setting) & safe Pitch GA attitude..& reconfigure on schedule..perhaps too much lift was removed too soon? Or maybe there was crew transition confusion during PF/PNF duty swap during the GA? We shall find out in due time..let us hope (via the official report)

 

[RealAssanova]

Says something like:
"I was a passenger of the flight on the very same plane 4 hours before, from Kazan to Moscow. Don't let those

fool you that it was weather related or a pilot mistake, the airplane was broken, we almost crashed on landing at moscow."

So apparently the Russian media or airliner per se is trying to blame pilot error as the cause of accident but according to above passenger the aircraft itself had some maintenance issues

russia has some of the worst aircraft out there

remember the hockey team that perished?

i remember i had to fly from moscow to this other airport on some like old 80s jet it felt like

In any air disaster, first thing they look at is the pilots. That's why it is imperative that they recover the CVR (cockpit voice recorder) and FDR (flight data recorder) right away. That air france accident that happened few years ago had investigators lookin months for em...so in the initial phases of the investigation all they were able to do was speculate based on the recovered debris. Everyone in the industry didn't know wtf happened until much later on.

and like the both of ya'll said, russia is notorious for its extremely poor aviation record. That very aircraft last year had an incident where it experienced cabin depressurization at 30,000 ft and needed to make an emergency landing. So i definately wouldn't put it past me that the plane was poorly maintained and kept and the accident was infact mechanical and not pilot error.

 

[Exiled Martian]

russia has some of the worst aircraft out there

remember the hockey team that perished?

i remember i had to fly from moscow to this other airport on some like old 80s jet it felt like

Yes you quite right they do operate old birds out in the Eastern block...not to mention their aircraft checklists...involves 'vodka' at every opportunity ...google Aeroflot flight 593 crash.... Same type of scenario a western aircraft (Airbus in this case as opposed to Boeing) suffered same sort of mishap I.e spiral nosedive into the ground after some crazy cockpit practices...(the pilot let his kids handle the aircraft) Official reports dubbed it as pilot error leading to CFIT ( controlled flight into terrain)

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Why would anyone fly in Russia?

 

[RealAssanova]

Agreed...unstabilized approach during G.A whilst utilising TOGA thrust = recipe for disaster...The B737 in a two-engine go-around, if not properly managed, can be a real handful to keep control off... it all comes back to the A.N.C adage...Aviate Navigate Communicate...and the most important part of Aviate is TOGA (take off go around thrust setting) & safe Pitch GA attitude..& reconfigure on schedule..perhaps too much lift was removed too soon? Or maybe there was crew transition confusion during PF/PNF duty swap during the GA? We shall find out in due time..let us hope (via the official report)

i know breh. Remember this one?



they were at full thrust and even if they pitched down to break the stall, they wouldn't have had sufficient enough altitude to recover at that rate of speed. CofG's bruh. That shyt is

I worry bout going past V1 and encountering an emergency.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

RIP

 

[Exiled Martian]

i know breh. Remember this one?



they were at full thrust and even if they pitched down to break the stall, they wouldn't have had sufficient enough altitude to recover at that rate of speed. CofG's bruh. That shyt is

I worry bout going past V1 and encountering an emergency.

I remember this.. there was a Pilot vs Loadmaster debacle over that Bagram crash in Afghanistan...huge blame game eloped as a result of CG imbalance & who was at fault...apparently that american 747 which suffered the departure stall on climb out (probably way above Vy) was the only freight plane that would accept the contract to ship those 5 tonne a piece army vehicles.....whilst all other cargo planes decline the job! Fukked up really you quite right they applied SSR (standard stall recovery) to textbook perfection...sadly not enough blue sky & insurance (altitude) in the bank to stop the inevitable happening!

 

[tru_m.a.c]

i know breh. Remember this one?



they were at full thrust and even if they pitched down to break the stall, they wouldn't have had sufficient enough altitude to recover at that rate of speed. CofG's bruh. That shyt is

I worry bout going past V1 and encountering an emergency.

 

[RealAssanova]

I remember this.. there was a Pilot vs Loadmaster debacle over that Bagram crash in Afghanistan...huge blame game eloped as a result of CG imbalance & who was at fault...apparently that american 747 which suffered the departure stall on climb out (probably way above Vy) was the only freight plane that would accept the contract to ship those 5 tonne a piece army vehicles.....whilst all other cargo planes decline the job! Fukked up really you quite right they applied SSR (standard stall recovery) to textbook perfection...sadly not enough blue sky & insurance (altitude) in the bank to stop the inevitable happening!

I wouldn't think it'd be the pilots fault as they are primarily responsible for weight and balance calculations. The loadmaster however is responsible for that AND the safe securing of the cargo. Pilots usually only come down for their standard walk-arounds only to go back and finish the rest of the pre-departure work. So the shyt could've came unfastened during taxi or t/o and shifted as soon as the climb began.

Sh!tty way to go out man...real sh!tty. Bout 1200-1500 ft off the ground, alarms begin going off, panic starts to set in, you take your attention away from flying the plane tryna figure out wtf is going on not noticing the fact that the plane is losing altitude and about to enter into a dive.

I can't even begin to imagine what was going on in that flight deck.

I heard families didn't want the video being relased to the public?

 

[swimmingpools]

Tragic! RIP to those who lost their lives.

 

[Dooby]

breh, flying is safe.

How many times a year do you hear about a commercial jet going down compared to the number of times car accidents occur per day?

Here we go with this stupid argument. There are a shyt ton more people driving cars and the qualifications for driving a car is a lot lower too. The two are not comparable.

Anywho.

It still boggles my mind how they have not made any progress in preventing death in plane crashes. They should at least install parachutes, or those seats in jets where they eject the passenger into the air so they may float to safety. Riding in a plane, if it goes down, you're most likely going to die.