Verzuz Presents: Fat Joe vs Ja Rule 9/14 @ 9PM ET

[Wacky D]

Surprised this is the song that everybody hype

Why are you surprised?

"Put it on me" is jarule's biggest classic and the song that made him a superstar.

 

[Wacky D]

Vita aged like shyt. Cadillac Tah coming out too?

How

she looks almost the same as 20 years ago..

Vita? Not looking good. lol

That's call hunger bruh. Or bulimia. Either way, I feel bad for her

She's petite.

just like her sister.

maybe it's hereditary.

Ja won like 4 rounds off that last round just now

Yea you called it.

It was pretty much over when they did "put it on me" and I was rocking with fat joe more up to that point.

Joe getting exposed…this don Cartagena shyt wasn’t getting any burn back in the day

It was aiird.

But it sounds alot better live.

now using dj khaled songs?

Why not?

The Lox used this strategy thru darn near their whole battle and they were praised for it.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Yea you called it.

It was pretty much over when they did "put it on me" and I was rocking with fat joe more up to that point.

Lil Mo tore it down. It was curtains after that. Wasn’t nothing Joe could do

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

It was over before it started

 

[T.H.E.GOD]

Ja deserves his flowers. Hope Khaled and joe talk drake into making a record with ja.

 

[Pop123]

Yall been bumpin Rule shyt since the Verzuz or nah?








Let me catch one of you lil niglets ridin by bumpin that "Your kiss, your smile, I, love the way you kiss me babay"

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I'm a throw a brick thru ya windshield hard as fukk on some regular shyt.

 

[Wacky D]

THIS is the matchup that should’ve happened. Luda wasted his time that night.lolololol.

Actually, Luda would lose to Nelly in this setting.

Luda had home court in the virtual battle but if they did a live verzus, it would favor Nelly. Not a blowout but Nelly would have to drop the ball in order to lose.

THIS WAS WACK...
bring the artists out then again..nas..ll.jay z..etc are too important!! LOL

LL wants to battle.

Don't group him in with those scary rappers.
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Jim Jones is retarded if he thinks he’s gonna get a solo verzuz against anybody

How so?

They were actually in talks about doing one a while back before the dipset one.

People really ran with the narrative that Ja was trash cause 50 said it...all while 50 was taking Ja's whole formula to make those hit records

Jarule was already the most-hated rapper before the 50 cent beef went mainstream.

50 had 100 other battles and didn't dent anybody else's popularity - fat joe included.

This one wasn't promoted anywhere near as much as the Dips/Lox one was.

There wasn't much interest in this one.

And I havnt heard one person blasting any fat joe or jarule records anywhere this month.

You can't compare.

Venni Vetti Vucci, Rule 3:16 and Pain Is Love we’re all dope albums. I never understood people saying Ja only had singles…he had album cuts but his albums were overshadowed by the big singles that got played over and over again.

His albums ranged from alright to dope but he never had any albums that were THAT CHIT.

If your album is poppin like th at, it's not gonna get over-shadowed by the singles.

He had some fire album cuts yjo, but he did a piss-poor job of displaying them in the battle. This chit ain't helping his legacy at all. He'll be getting a lil more show money tho.

Nelly vs Ja would’ve made more sense

According to Ali, that's the battle Nelly thought he was gonna get.

 

[Frida Giezman]

 

[Wacky D]

now Joe calling lil mo an icon

Well her voice is up there.

She's in that Michel'le realm of incomplete careers but you know what time it is whrn they hi t that stage.

Nelly was only in NY to link up with Ashanti…
Real nikkas already know.

Lol. Yea.

Nelly called fat joe about showing up.

he basically booked himself on the show.

I’m Real is an all time memorable classic

Straight good times when that shyt dropped.

Man that chit ain't chit.

This was when jarule began to overstay his welcome.

Corny ass song.

Ja had better performance tonight, but he does not have bigger track than "Lean back"

"Put it on me" was bigger than lean back.

Let's not rewrite.

Joe still spending Pun publishing on bullshyt..

Pun didn't even sell that many records.

Joe's own publishing is worth more.

THIS

I see alot of people in here trying to argue against this.

They're showing their age.

not to mention, 50 is the entire reason NYC fell off. NO ONE was beefing like that dude. Everyone else was kinda making it work. 50 blew ALL that up.

Funk Flex admits it. Ebro admits it. Star admits it. EVERYONE saw it in real time

Revisionist history.

Darn near everybody was beefing.

Yall missed out on the era of street wars mixtapes and all that. 50 cent ain't have any cuts on there until like volume 5.

 

[Wacky D]

? I didn't address that at all...it's not about time period alone, it's about familiarity. The reason "Flow Joe" fell so flat is because nobody knows that shyt, lol.

Bullchit.

"Flow joe" was #1 on the charts. Yall in here acting like it was some obscure mixtape cut. No. It was just before alot of people's times.

The crowd didn't have any reaction for the jarule song that round either, aside from him shouting out DMX.

But this board still gave the round to jarule simply because X & Jay were on the song. Corny chit.

Puffy has 0 chance against Dre
NWA
Chronic series
Dog Pound
Pac
Cube
Eazy E
Kendrick
Eminem
Blackstreet
Mary J
Xzibit
Eve
Gwen Stefani
50
Nas
Firm
Snoop
Etc etc.
Dre would wipe his ass wit Puffy. He need to stay in his lane wit JD

Ehh.

Half of this list ain't hitting with a live urban audience like that. Some no t hitting at all. Gwen stefani?? LOL

Then you have a grip of names who have more popular work with puff. The nerve of you listing Mary j Blige, when puff can play the majority of her biggest signature cuts.

I didn’t say a perfect match but a better match than fukking Kool Moe Dee.

honestly I do t think Cool J has anyone who can compete with him from the 80s.

How you disrespect Kool moe dee name like that?

He's a GOAT.

The thing is Fat Joe and Ja Rule are both artists that are mostly known for hits, not necessarily album cuts.

And Ja is gonna win that every time

Fat joe has a classic album tho.

 

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[JustCKing]

Actually, Luda would lose to Nelly in this setting.

Luda had home court in the virtual battle but if they did a live verzus, it would favor Nelly. Not a blowout but Nelly would have to drop the ball in order to lose.

Ludacris would beat Nelly on ANY setting. Luda is a better live performer than Nelly. He also has a stronger set of 20 songs than Nelly.

Social media is not home court for anybody. It's far more neutral than any live setting.

 

[Wacky D]

yeah

I'm surprised he ain't try to counter the Ja Rule J-Lo records with the ones he did with her...that would've been something that could've swayed the crowd.

for what??

that crowd isnt into J.Lo's music. all her urban hits were carried by the rap features.

and nobody remembers any fat joe collabos with J.Lo.

Ludacris would beat Nelly on ANY setting. Luda is a better live performer than Nelly. He also has a stronger set of 20 songs than Nelly.

Social media is not home court for anybody. It's far more neutral than any live setting.

social media is home court for artists who are favored by the internet.

swizz beatz won a bunch of live battles, but he wouldve "lost" all of them on social media,

luda does NOT have a stronger 20 than nelly.
luda does have better features and is a better performer, so it would be close. but nelly would have the crowd and would get the win as long as he does his job

Ja got Joe up out of here.

There's really people on this board who said Fat Joe would have anything for Busta.

Fukk. No.

Man couldn't take the weight of club hits for the ladies from a 5/6 year window. Busta has hits dating back to the early 90's. He would have shot Rotund Joseph into the sun.

this battle was catered to the crowd. neither of them put up their best 20.

i'd take both jarule & fat joe's best 20 over busta.

busta would run them both off the stage tho, when you bring the live performance aspect into it.

flipmode squad vs terror squad could be a thing tho.
EDIT: im just now realizing that you could have remy ma and technically papoose on opposite sides on stage. nice touch. i just noticed that after the fact.

 

[JustCKing]

social media is home court for artists who are favored by the internet.

swizz beatz won a bunch of live battles, but he wouldve "lost" all of them on social media,

luda does NOT have a stronger 20 than nelly.
luda does have better features and is a better performer, so it would be close. but nelly would have the crowd and would get the win as long as he does his job

There is no such thing as "favored by the Internet" where mainstream artists as big as Nelly and Luda are concerned. They don't have niche audiences. These aren't artists that were discovered via the Internet because they were some obscure underground sensations i.e. a Little Brother or even a Lupe Fiasco.

Swizz ain't win a bunch of live battles. He beat Kanye and Just. Onlybother person he battled was Timbaland.

If you're conceding that Nelly isn't a better performer, he couldn't win the crowd. Luda could do two different 20 song lists and beat Nelly, I mean:

1. What's Your Fantasy
2. Bia Bia
3. Southern Hospitality
4. Roll Out
5. One Minute Man
6. Welcome To Atlanta
7. Move
8. Made You Look Remix
9. Saturday
10. Stand Up
11. Splash Waterfalls
12. Yeah
13. Lover's & Friends
14. Pimpin All Over The World
15. Oh
16. Georgia
17. Run Away Love
18. War With God
19. I'm So Hood Remix
20. All I Do Is Win

 

[Illmagic]

Im glad Ja is getting his flowers but I do wish people knew of his album cuts. We all knew about the hits so it was good for folks to be reminded of how big he was. At the same time I wish he got his props for his true great songs which arent necessarily his biggest songs.