Venezuela 🇻🇪 vs. Guyana 🇬🇾 Watch Thread - Essequibo/Esequiba/Esequibo

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although I disagree with @Chronic I can appreciate his honesty, @Rhakim seems to be incapable of even plainly stating his views and having a discussion : (
@Rhakim:

THATS NOT WHAT I SAID!: “ [insert paragraphs restating what others accuse him of saying] !…therefore I have proven you intellectually incapable of continuing the dialogue on this topic I am a newfound expert in!"
 

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@Rhakim[/USER] seems to be incapable of even plainly stating his views and having a discussion : (


What kind of random-ass lie is this? Name a single view I've expressed on this matter that I haven't stated plainly.


I'm not Napoleon, who has done full 180 flips on multiple positions just this week because he's so desperate not to admit he was wrong.
 

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@Rhakim:

THATS NOT WHAT I SAID!: “ [insert paragraphs restating what others accuse him of saying] !

Let's start from the beginning and keep it really simple. I will start with your very first claim that led us down this path, and you can tell us whether it was true or not.


You literally keep focusing on F150s…not…everything else. This what my entire point. I’m not talking about crude oil and oil spills and environmental impacts. I’m literally talking about this focus on oil singularly as a panacea that once it’s removed all the world’s ills are fixed. This is how you argue and continue to argue.


You randomly claimed, with zero justification, that I only focus on F150s. You claimed, lying out your ass, that I believe oil is the only problem and removing it will fix everything. I have never claimed ANYTHING like that. You just made it up.

I've asked you four times to take that back and admit it was completely false and entirely made up. Are you willing yet to admit you lied?
 

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Let's start from the beginning and keep it really simple. I will start with your very first claim that led us down this path, and you can tell us whether it was true or not.





You randomly claimed, with zero justification, that I only focus on F150s. You claimed, lying out your ass, that I believe oil is the only problem and removing it will fix everything. I have never claimed ANYTHING like that. You just made it up.

I've asked you four times to take that back and admit it was completely false and entirely made up. Are you willing yet to admit you lied?
You were scared Guyana discovering oil would lead to problems and thus Guyana shouldn’t develop its natural resources BECAUSE you are anti-oil
 

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You were scared Guyana discovering oil would lead to problems and thus Guyana shouldn’t develop its natural resources BECAUSE you are anti-oil


How the fukk do you think a 4-year-old thread about Guyana justifies your claim that oil is the only thing I'm focused on and getting rid of it would solve everything? :dahell:

You claimed I singularly focus on oil and believe getting rid of it will solve all the world's ills, and your evidence for that is a single statement from a four-year-old thread where I don't say anything like that at all?

Notice where later in that same comment you refer to, I said they need to learn from Norway and use their oil profits to set up a sovereign wealth account. Why the fukk would I say that if I'm singularly focused on oil alone?




And I was scared that Guyana having massive oil reserves could lead to problems because I actually know what a petrostate is.



Sorry, but the odds were not in their favor, as we're seeing in real time.
 

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So @℃ertifed, you just deflected without answering the question, so let's have it clear.

Do you believe I'm singularly focused on oil, or not? Do you believe I think getting rid of oil will solve all the world's ills, or not?


Simple yes or no answer. @88m3 claimed I'm the one who can't plainly state my views, and you agreed with him. So show us right now, can you plainly state whether you believe I'm singularly focused on oil and believe transitioning away from it is all we need, or not?
 

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And I was scared that Guyana having massive oil reserves could lead to problems because I actually know what a petrostate is.
because you’re anti oil.

like, why are you afraid of Guyana using its own natural resources? Then you masked this same critique in zero-emission rhetoric.

You’re a degrowther. It’s OK. Its not illegal or contagious (thankfully).
 

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So @℃ertifed, you just deflected without answering the question, so let's have it clear.

Do you believe I'm singularly focused on oil, or not? Do you believe I think getting rid of oil will solve all the world's ills, or not?


Simple yes or no answer. @88m3 claimed I'm the one who can't plainly state my views, and you agreed with him. So show us right now, can you plainly state whether you believe I'm singularly focused on oil and believe transitioning away from it is all we need, or not?
yeah. thats what you said several times.

I said the green movement needs to get over their oil drilling obsession and focus on emissions and you went straight at the mere existence of oil AND said its use in processing and consumerism and the production of related forms of energy and goods was also bad = DEGROWTH
 

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Okay, thanks for clarifying. You're dead wrong and obviously lying, but I only asked to prove that you don't believe I'm a degrowther. Because someone who thinks switching away from oil would solve our problems couldn't possibly advocate for degrowth, those are two opposite positions.


Your own article that you posted to "own" me said that degrowthers are stupid because all we actually need to do is transition away from oil. :pachaha:
 

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Okay, thanks for clarifying. You're dead wrong and obviously lying, but I only asked to prove that you don't believe I'm a degrowther. Because someone who thinks switching away from oil would solve our problems couldn't possibly advocate for degrowth, those are two opposite positions.


Your own article that you posted to "own" me said that degrowthers are stupid because all we actually need to do is transition away from oil. :pachaha:
 
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