Religion/Spirituality Vegetarianism, Veganism, and just reducing your meat intake.

[Julius Skrrvin]

What do you think brehs. I just watched this last night:

Forks over Knives - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Forks over Knives is a 2011 American documentary film directed by American independent filmmaker Lee Fulkerson. Through an examination of the careers of American physician Caldwell Esselstyn and professor of nutritional biochemistry T. Colin Campbell, the film advocates a whole foods, plant-based (vegan) diet as a means of combating a number of diseases. It suggests that "most, if not all, of the degenerative diseases that afflict us can be controlled, or even reversed, by rejecting our present menu of animal-based and processed foods." [1]
The film also provides an overview of the 20-year China-Cornell-Oxford Project that led to Professor Campbell's findings, outlined in his book, The China Study (2005) in which he suggests that coronary disease, diabetes, obesity, and cancer can be linked to the Western diet of processed and animal-based foods (including all dairy products). [1]
The DVD of Forks Over Knives was released on August 30, 2011.[2]

And while I would never go vegan or even vegetarian, I was thoroughly convinced that I definitely should scale back my meat intake. This year has been big for me in that regard. I took a course in Plant Genetics and Diversity this semester and it really changed my outlook and interest in vegetables and plants. I will never full give up meat; i love a good cut too much. However, I am thinking that it may not be so bad to start trying to eat some plant based protein in the form of nuts, legumes, and modicum of soy along with the meat I do eat.

thoughts?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

@Serious the biochemistry and molecular aspects of this movie were pretty well presented. Essentially at the very least i dont see any drawbacks at all to heavily increasing my plant intake. Minimal calories for the most part, high micronutrient loads, etc. I always hear bits and pieces about phytoestrogens and soy but I dont really buy into the literature very much. The effect seems...minimal, if even there.

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

Fish is good for you and is Halaal.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Fish is good for you and is Halaal.

High mercury and other earth metal concentrations


Overfishing

 

[Serious]

Sounds dope. I was doing this for the first part of summer, then I went on vacation and sh*t .

I would allow myself to eat fish, and small increments of chicken.

Not mention, I came up with a dope recipe for an organic protein shake.

As of right now, I currently hate the topic of nutrition. There's too much politics, and sh*t I don't know...

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

I read in an Islam book about medicine that eating fish is good for your brain, if i remember correctly.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Sounds dope. I was doing this for the first part of summer, then I went on vacation and sh*t .

I would allow myself to fish, and small increments of chicken.

Not mention, I came up with dope recipe for an organic protein shake.

As of right now, I hate the topic of nutrition. There's too much politics, and sh*t I don't know...

I know how that goes. Subjectively how did you feel tho? Clarity wise, sleep, resistance to disease, sexual (pause). These are things that im a little reticent of when considering to recalibrate how much of my diet I want to be plant based.

We dont gotta be objective about it, just have fun with it

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

Sounds dope.

I would read an Islam book about medicine if i were you. I can't even really explain how valuable this may be for you. This life is short, we will be dead any second now. Dar-us-Salam Publications - Islamic Books, CDs/DVDs, Gifts and More

 

[88m3]

Fish is good for you and is Halaal.

Only fish without scales though right Slaimon?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I read in an Islam book about medicine that eating fish is good for your brain, if i remember correctly.

Some fish have high concentrations of Omega-3 fatty acids in their tissues, which are very good for your brain. My problem with fish lies in the toxins that are biomagnified in their bodies because of oceanic pollution, and the problem of overfishing killing our seas. Obviously the environment suffers from farming one way or another, but plant food by consensus causes the smallest blow to mother earth.

I hear that scallop farming is very environmentally friendly though:
Scallop aquaculture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Contrary to common perception concerning the negative impacts of many aquaculture practices (particularly finfishes[17]), scallop aquaculture (and indeed other shellfish aquaculture practices) in many parts of the world are considered to be a sustainable practice that can have positive ecosystem effects. This is a result of filter-feeding bivalves removing suspended solids, unwanted nutrients, silt, bacteria and viruses from the water column so to increase water clarity which, in turn, improves pelagic and benthic ecosystems, particularly by promoting growth of vegetation such as seagrasses.[18]
With this considered, such positive impacts are very area specific and one of the main negative environmental impacts scallop culture can create in some other areas is the eutrophication of waters. This has been well observed in Russia where culture of scallops in partially closed bays has resulted in eutrophication and so changes in species composition and structural and functional parameters of pelagic and benthic communities.[2] Monitoring has shown that after farms are disbanded, ecosystems were restored within 5–10 years. This is in line with a large body of data showing bivalve aquaculture activities result in various environmental changes including changes in hydrological regime, ecological communities (including planktonic communities), biochemical composition of waters, biodeposits and invertebrate settlement success.[2] Furthermore, aquaculture farms are a source of visual pollution and so often attract public opposition in highly populated coastal areas.

 

[Slaimon Khan Shah]

Only fish without scales though right Slaimon?

You all really really should read an Islamic book about medicine. Talk about knowing what to buy at the grocery store. www.Dar-us-salam.com All fish is good for you from what i read. All seafood is Halal (Permissable).

 

[Serious]

I know how that goes. Subjectively how did you feel tho? Clarity wise, sleep, resistance to disease, sexual (pause). These are things that im a little reticent of when considering to recalibrate how much of my diet I want to be plant based.

We dont gotta be objective about it, just have fun with it

Damn bro, must have read my mind or something. I literally wrote everything you just mentioned, but decided to edit it out. Didn't want to come off bragging.

The sex game is something else. Honestly, every man should make Kale their best friend..

On another note eating plant based foods is incredibly cheap. It debunks the whole philosophy of eating healthy being expensive.


Ok this enough, I had to ignore slaimon

@BarNone do something bro

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Damn bro, must have read my mind or something. I literally wrote everything you just mentioned, but decided to edit it out. Didn't want to come off bragging.

The sex game is something else. Honestly, every man should make Kale their best friend..

On another note eating plant based foods is incredibly cheap. It debunks the whole philosophy of eating healthy being expensive.


Ok this enough, I had to ignore slaimon

@BarNone do something bro

Damn man i knew it. My kungfu teacher mentioned something about this diet wise to me re: erectile function and he was tellin me that the green veggie intake was having him blow wifey's back out and shyt. I hit him with the but i believe it

There it is again, that correlation between cardiac function, erectile function, and respiratory function. That doc i cited in the OP was saying that yeah erectile dysfunction is a predicator of heart disease. Increased veggie intake does seem to improve heart conditions even if you do eat meat so...

Yeah, plant based foods are super cost effective per nutrients/energy. As i graduate and start providing for myself, saving that money is what im gonna have to do.

 

[Baracka Flocka Flame]

Only eats Chicken, Turkey and Fish when meats are concerned.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

I cant give beef up breh. Steaks haunting my dreams