Variety turns heel on Vince: ''McMahon Out of Excuses for WWE Woes''

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go back to ATTITUDE ERA.
NO!!! The attitude era is just like Jerry Springer, it was great for the time but doesn't work anymore. They could use some of the elements that worked from that era, and mix in the stuff that worked during the ruthless aggression era. Bolder characters(attitude era) mixed with better storytelling(ruthless aggression era) would make for a better product. Also not listening to smark indy fans who think every 5'9 150lbs wrestler should be world champion would be great as well.
Yet people still got their heads in the sand and acting like WWE is fine.
Nobody acts like everything is great, but the problem is that ya'll act like they're WCW 2000 bad. When they can't get fans to show up for wrestlemania then that's when they should panic. Until then they just need to do a soft reset and remember that wrestling is better when it's over the top. One of the main issues I have is that it feels too sterile now, and I mean from the setup, to the music, to the matches, and getting rid of the pyro.
 

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Nobody acts like everything is great, but the problem is that ya'll act like they're WCW 2000 bad. When they can't get fans to show up for wrestlemania then that's when they should panic. Until then they just need to do a soft reset and remember that wrestling is better when it's over the top. One of the main issues I have is that it feels too sterile now, and I mean from the setup, to the music, to the matches, and getting rid of the pyro.

Maybe not on here but I lurk Reddit's wrestling section, Twitter and wrestling comment sections. It's full of people making excuses for any of WWE faults like they're getting paid to defend them.
 

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That was good and all but we made an attempt and came up with a remix.


It was all a dream, I used to read WWF magazine,
Vince shouldn't have survived that limousine.
Hanging pictures on the wall,
Every Monday less people watching Raw.
I let that home video rock till the tape popped
Watching Austin, Taker, and The Rock
Way back when the product wasn't wack
And the fans would watch
Remember Attitude Era, duh ha duh ha,
Never thought creative would fall off so far
Now I'm on the sidelines, cuz the booking not right
Ideas getting made, blowing up ratings like a grenade
Bored viewer, and channel flipper
Remember when Raw was a ratings winner
Peace to Punk, Enzo, and Cody
Bucks, Khan, and Kenny
Ratings dropping like you thought they would,
And it's not good. :francis:
Ok Ok, I see you breh :pachaha:
 

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The product is trash. They completely went away from what works and tried to create a popcorn kiddy produxt that doesnt work. Even in the 80's, it was still wrestling. It was more child friendly but it was gritty. The whole PG era aliented so many people and created no watch gang.


If Vince goes back to what works maybe he can stop selling his soul to the damn arabs :wow:
 

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Variety aint the only one :lolbron:

WWE Employees Are Reportedly Baffled By Vince McMahon's Lack Of Pro Wrestling Knowledge

WWE boss Vince McMahon apparently cares only about pro wrestling, which may be both his biggest weakness and his greatest strength.

During a 2014 interview with Grantland's Cheap Heat podcast, WWE Hall of Famer Mark Henry summed up McMahon perfectly when he said that "McMahon is interested in nothing besides wrestling." Perhaps he should have been a bit more specific, though, because if you ask those close to McMahon, the only thing he is truly interested in is WWE.

On a recent episode of Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer reportedthat McMahon's decision to bring back Eric Bischoff of the Executive Director of SmackDown was a real head-scratcher for many within the company because it exemplified McMahon's lack of pro wrestling knowledge:

"They’re like, ‘How can someone be so out of touch’ and the thing was and I’ve heard this from a lot of people: ‘Vince really doesn’t know anything about wrestling outside of WWE — AT ALL!’ I mean that’s kinda the conclusion and I’m not just talking about ex TNA guys in that company. I mean that’s been the consensus of people in and around that company across the board. ‘Wow, we know he doesn’t follow wrestling and he doesn’t watch wrestling, but he doesn’t know anything about wrestling anymore outside of his walls.'"

Dave Meltzer​

Whether McMahon pays attention to anything outside of pro wrestling has long been a hot topic of debate. In fact, many WWE fans were thrown for a loop last year when Triple H dropped a bombshell about McMahon's knowledge about one of his own brands, NXT, during an interview with The Sun (h/t Wrestle Talk):

"I don’t know that he’s ever even watched a full episode of NXT start to finish. He’s busy."

Triple H on Vince McMahon​

Even though a former WWE writer refuted Triple H's claim, that little nugget of information from "The Game" really shed some light on the issues that have plagued WWE's creative process in recent years. On one hand, McMahon's unparalleled dedication to WWE, pro wrestling and the world of sports entertainment is quite admirable and a true testament to his unbelievable work ethic. On the other hand, even those within WWE are baffled by the boss's overall lack of knowledge about anything that isn't WWE. His rehiring of Bischoff, a questionable move given Bischoff's disappointing run as the creative head of TNA, is just the tip of the iceberg and one of many signs that McMahons pays very little, if any attention, to anything that isn't WWE-related.

It's widely believed that, after all, that McMahon hardly even participates in recruiting and signing new talent. That responsibility falls largely upon the shoulders of Triple H, who does the scouting of indie talent and is in charge of NXT, WWE's third brand and one in which McMahon has a very limited role. While McMahon obviously wants NXT to be a place where WWE can pump talent in and out to keep the company going strong into the future, it can't be overstated that McMahon is widely considered to be one of the biggest reasons—maybe the biggest reason—why WWE's product has struggled so much in recent years.

It's as if McMahon lives in a WWE bubble, and because of that, many of the problems that are plaguing WWE's main roster product have been directly attributed to him. Former WWE star Batista has called WWE's creative process a "nightmare" while Dean Ambrose said flat-out that "Vince is the problem" when it comes to the booking of Raw and SmackDown. Earlier this year, an anonymous source told PWTorch's Wade Keller (h/t WrestlingNews.co) that "McMahon doesn’t keep track of what is going on with NXT" and that "he just watches WWE and works out and is not aware of things going on in the real world." The source also noted that "there is no chance of Vince stepping down," a sentiment echoed by Triple H during an interview with the Sports Business Journal(h/t Still Real To Us) earlier this year:

"[Vince] has the most incredible work ethic of any person I have ever seen. It’s impossible to hang with him on a long term basis even at 73. It’s crazy: he still trains every day, still does everything but he’s hands on on so many things...when it comes to creative and the shows, he’s at RAW and SmackDown every week. That’s the part that he loves; he found himself as a business man but that’s what he loves to do and he’s awesome at it, and that is his passion. He won’t give that up, not because he should – it’s his passion."

Triple H
It's hard not to be impressed by McMahon's notorious work ethic, but it's also difficult not to be frustrated by the recent issues plaguing WWE's creative process.

So many stars have become disillusioned with WWE that morale within the company is at all-time low and many stars, ranging from Sasha Banksto The Revival, are plotting their exits from the company. Others, ranging from Ambrose to Tye Dillinger to Neville to Hideo Itami, have already left. Based on information from Triple H, that aforementioned anonymous source, Meltzer, Henry and a slew of others, it seems that one of the main issues that has contributed to frustration in WWE is McMahon's laser focus on WWE and WWE only.

Even though some have said that All Elite Wrestling isn't competition for WWE while current AEW announcer Jim Ross is on record in saying that he doubts McMahon is concerned about AEW in the slightest, perhaps he should be worried. Not just about AEW, but about non-WWE competition that could ultimately affect WWE's bottom line and its programming as a whole.

Until he does, the product may struggle even within Heyman on board, and those within WWE will continue to wonder: What does McMahon know about pro wrestling beyond the scope of WWE?
 

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If you take away the Saudi money, I wonder how bad off they really are :jbhmm:
They’ve spent the last decade trying to essentially make their company incapable of going under by finding every revenue stream possible, but something just seems off. My gut tells me it’s a house of cards and that they’ve been cooking the books or that there’s some serious money laundering going on.
 

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What happened to Heyman and Bischoff coming in to change things? Nothing has changed :pachaha:

Cageside rumor today was that Bischoff wasn’t even taking a role in creative, if anything at all.

The fukking thing was a worked scam just like the Daniel Bryan non-“announcement” last week. They’re getting more and more desperate week by week for ratings.
 
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