USPS Crisis: Postmaster General slowing mail & in contact with Republican Party officials!

[Hood Critic]

I get it, "govt. gives me free/cheap service, i dont want to privatize it and pay more. Just give them more tax payer money"

Meanwhile...

The agency has $100 billion in unfunded pension liabilities and "no clear path to profitability," according to a White House assessment report released last year. The Post Office has lost $69 billion since 2007, and it probably would have gone bankrupt long ago if it were a private entity—FedEx and UPS certainly wouldn't exist today if they were posting annual losses of $4 billion. And they pay taxes, which the Postal Service does not.

That govt. efficiency

You keep yelling to privatize it but what would be accomplished by that?

 

[Solomon Lurke]

Random, but this just popped up Reddit.

 

[DEAD7]

You keep yelling to privatize it but what would be accomplished by that?

 

[Hood Critic]

I want to hear your rationale because I want to hear how the USPS is an evil strain on your tax dollars because they can nationally fulfill a need that you'd rather be auctioned off for a private citizen to own and get rich off of.

I'd like for you to make it make sense to me.

 

[DEAD7]

I want to hear your rationale because I want to hear how the USPS is an evil strain on your tax dollars because they can nationally fulfill a need that you'd rather be auctioned off for a private citizen to own and get rich off of.

I'd like for you to make it make sense to me.

How is a 4 billion dollar annual loss a strain? How is 100 billion dollars in unfunded pensions a strain? Money really does grow on trees to liberals...

The Netherlands has fully privatized mail, Germany i believe has privatized there mail system as well.I'm going to use the "its working fine over there" argument single payers love. Why cant it work here?





I'll concede privatizing does mean profits... I know how evil that is.
Some one will make money for providing this service...

 

[DEAD7]

What The US Postal Service Can Learn From Privatization Of UK's Royal Mail

Here's an article from 2015 Lets not act this is a corona virus produced issue.


Other countries facing falling mail volume have privatized their systems and opened them to competition... Lets follow suit.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

The Netherlands has fully privatized mail, Germany i believe has privatized there mail system as well.I'm going to use the "its working fine over there" argument single payers love. Why cant it work here?

Because those countries are pro-consumer and pro-employee and have strong social services. You know. Things America don't have.

That's why it can't work here.

 

[DEAD7]

Because those countries are pro-consumer and pro-employee and have strong social services. You know. Things America don't have.

That's why it can't work here.

This is America, if every other first world country can make it work, so can we.

 

[DEAD7]

Its becoming clear this is solely about holding onto govt. jobs

I hope rethugs bush it.

 

[Hood Critic]

How is a 4 billion dollar annual loss a strain? How is 100 billion dollars in unfunded pensions a strain? Money really does grow on trees to liberals...

The Netherlands has fully privatized mail, Germany i believe has privatized there mail system as well.I'm going to use the "its working fine over there" argument single payers love. Why cant it work here?





I'll concede privatizing does mean profits... I know how evil that is.
Some one will make money for providing this service...

The pension debt wouldn't even exist if the GOP hadn't pushed for pre-funding of pensions. This is how its easy to tell you're a republican in a really bad costume, you whole hardly endorse the manufacturing of problems in order to solve them.

The idea of privatizing a government service would be to make it more cost effective to its users and run it more efficiently. Neither of those would be accomplished through privatization especially since USPS is still doing the last mile work of the privatized shipping giants.

Why throw away a public service that the country has been investing in for 200+ years so someone can come in and be less efficient and more expensive?

Profit isn't a problem until its at the expense of reason, you'd privatize congress if you could.

 

[DEAD7]

The idea of privatizing a government service would be to make it more cost effective to its users and run it more efficiently. Neither of those would be accomplished through privatization especially since USPS is still doing the last mile work of the privatized shipping giants.

Its literally occurring overseas as we speak...

The pension debt wouldn't even exist if the GOP hadn't pushed for pre-funding of pensions. This is how its easy to tell you're a republican in a really bad costume, you whole hardly endorse the manufacturing of problems in order to solve them.

There seems to be this idea floating around the HL left that the Republican party isnt part of our govt. If i say "govt program A is inefficient and/or unsustainable" the response is "its the GoP"... as if that makes my statement false.
As long as its public its subject to political fukkery.
GoP shenanigans are an argument for privatizing.

 

[DEAD7]

The USPS actually has two legally enforced monopolies, as per Title 39 of the US Code. One is over the delivery of anything defined as a “letter,” which is within certain size and weight limits. The second is over the use of your mailbox. That is correct: there are criminal violations if anyone puts anything in your mail box that is not US government approved “mail.” The US is the only country that I know having that latter monopoly, while most countries (including all 27 member EU countries) have done away with the first, the delivery monopoly.

Thus, parcels were never subject to the delivery monopoly. Indeed, UPS was in that business first, and USPS entered afterwards. Thus we have a case of the government competing directly with the private sector in a market where there is no, and never was, a “market failure.” This is why DHL, FedEx, Amazon (see e.g.Multi-Carrier & Ecommerce Shipping Software Solution, Parcel TMS | CLS), and others are free to enter and exit the parcel business. It is defined as a different market.


Classic leftism.
Craft laws so only govt. can do something, then cry who will do it if we get rid of it...
Who will deliver to rural america...
who will build the roads...
etc.

Blaming the market when govt mucks up the sector, after making it illegal to compete against them

 

[F K]

Its becoming clear this is solely about holding onto govt. jobs

I hope rethugs bush it.

don't you care about the black middle class? Why are you in such a rush to push people out into a racist market to compete with the whites who stole their wealth and labor. If you want to privatize it so badly just sell stocks and corporatize it. Until ADOS get reparations and white people come to Jesus we need all of the federal jobs we can get.

Out in the private world a white highschool dropout gets better job opportunities than a black college graduate . Where are your proposals to even the playing feel before setting loose cutthroat competition.

Why are you so hell bent on finishing the job the confederates and neo-confederates tried and failed to do so many years ago.

 

[F K]

Its becoming clear this is solely about holding onto govt. jobs

I hope rethugs bush it.

don't you care about the black middle class? Why are you in such a rush to push people out into a racist market to compete with the whites who stole their wealth and labor. If you want to privatize it so badly just sell stocks , corporatize it and repeal the monopoly . Until ADOS get reparations and white people come to Jesus we need all of the federal jobs we can get.
Out in the private world a white highschool dropout gets better job opportunities than a black college graduate . Where are your proposals to even the playing feel before setting loose cutthroat competition.

Why are you so hell bent on finishing the job the confederates and neo-confederates tried and failed to do so many years ago.don't you have any loyalty to your race?

 

[DEAD7]

Why are you so hell bent on finishing the job the confederates and neo-confederates tried and failed to do so many years ago.

I'm pro reparations and USPS should be privatized