Usain Bolt on Carl Lewis: "I have no respect for him. No respect."

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medal table was looking good until america took all those non-entity medals in the pool.
Medal table was pretty even after swimming, America got a decent lead when track & field started
 

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I hate when uninformed people speak on things and act like experts


Usain Bolt may be cheating, so may Tyson Gay... Shelly-Ann Fraser... Allyson Felix.... etc


olympic athletes are tested year-round. There is no "offseason." WADA handles the testing, and they run up on people at 4 o clock in the morning to test them. These athletes have to tell WADA - or whatever the WADA subsidiary in their country is - there whereabouts up to 48 hours before they are there because WADA can test them. So saying some idiotic stuff like, "Jamaica dont test there athletes" and "they dont get tested in the offseason" is misinformed tripe I expect of people who only watch these guys every 4 years.



and BOBN is kind of correct about American sports, btw. There is a problem with coaching and development in this country which no one wants to acknowledge.
 

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I hate when uninformed people speak on things and act like experts


Usain Bolt may be cheating, so may Tyson Gay... Shelly-Ann Fraser... Allyson Felix.... etc


olympic athletes are tested year-round. There is no "offseason." WADA handles the testing, and they run up on people at 4 o clock in the morning to test them. These athletes have to tell WADA - or whatever the WADA subsidiary in their country is - there whereabouts up to 48 hours before they are there because WADA can test them. So saying some idiotic stuff like, "Jamaica dont test there athletes" and "they dont get tested in the offseason" is misinformed tripe I expect of people who only watch these guys every 4 years.



and BOBN is kind of correct about American sports, btw. There is a problem with coaching and development in this country which no one wants to acknowledge.

Conte: World Anti-Doping Agency needs to beef up offseason steroid testing - NY Daily News

So that entire article is bunk?

And how can BOBN be right if the runners and swimmers from these foreign countries actually go to school and train in the USA? If our training and development were lacking compared to another nation then they would go there. That doesnt make any sense at all. Name the countries with better programs. And dont start naming shyt like soccer. Im seeing us go out here, compete hard, and win the medal race yet i see you cats here talking about how crappy we are. Doesnt add up. Is it not good enough that we get the most medals? Do we have to get double the amount of medals of our closest competitor?
 

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Carl Lewis was an amazing athlete but right now all he doing is flapping his gums. As some people said if Bolt and company were American he wouldn't say anything. Lots of runners in the Olympics who have won sprints have been of Jamaican decent ..eff this guy.
 

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Conte: World Anti-Doping Agency needs to beef up offseason steroid testing - NY Daily News

So that entire article is bunk?

And how can BOBN be right if the runners and swimmers from these foreign countries actually go to school and train in the USA? If our training and development were lacking compared to another nation then they would go there. That doesnt make any sense at all. Name the countries with better programs. And dont start naming shyt like soccer.

why do people cite Victor Conte as if he has no agenda? Conte was the Andre Berto's "nutritionist" when Berto got popped for using some PEDs a few months ago. He is around some shadiness again, yet people look at him as an authoritative figure on the matter. :snoop:

Out of the Jamaican sprinters, only Veronica Campbell-Brown went to school in the US. THe rest of them stay in Jamaica and do college there, that is the big difference between today's Jamaican sprinter and those of 10-15 years ago. None of them are leaving the country to get training, the training is being done there.

AS for swimming? Australia and the US are tops in that department, but most of the world dont swim. IM looking at sports like Tennis, like running events in track and field (specifically the men, the US women have taken most of the medals there), boxing, men's bball where the US wins because of its athleticism (it pains me to say that too), and a lot other international sports. The last 10 years, the world has caught up and passed the USA in athlete development. And its not just poor countries, but many first world countries have too.
 

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Looks more like hatin, because America isnt winning. And the fact that he is the go to guy when it comes because he got caught is :troll:. But he never gives names, he just say a number of athletes are cheatin. Well if he wants to clean the sport up then give names of who you suspect. No honour amongst thieves and cheats

And how can BOBN be right if the runners and swimmers from these foreign countries actually go to school and train in the USA? If our training and development were lacking compared to another nation then they would go there. That doesnt make any sense at all. Name the countries with better programs.

You have the best facilities but they only came about because you was tryin to outcompete the Russians & East Germans & (other Communist countries), who training regimes/techniques and drugs :piss: all over Americas. So when these coachin brehs defected to America, the coachin got better alot better
 

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Carl Lewis is just mad he's losing his grip

Carl Lewis was a arrogant smug who no one liked, he was a known druggie, who bullied his way on relay teams even when he was
Flabby. I remember in 96 he wanted to be on that relay squad eek as a old flabby man who couldn't keep up with top sprinters.

Carl Lewis used stimulants, 4 of his gold medals were won in a olympic games where 14 countries boycotted the games


Carl Lewis is a mad fakkit who only went under ten seconds 20 times in his career, it's a different day and generation, where even white boys like lemaitre are going under ten seconds in the 100

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Looks more like hatin, because America isnt winning. And the fact that he is the go to guy when it comes because he got caught. But he never gives names, he just say a number of athletes are cheatin. Well if he wants to clean the sport up then give names of who you suspect. No honour amongst thieves and cheats



You have the best facilities but they only came about because you was tryin to outcompete the Russians & East Germans & (other Communist countries), who training regimes/techniques and drugs :piss: all over Americas. So when these coachin brehs defected to America, the coachin got better alot better

It's no coincidence American gymnastics were flabby and sick until Bella and Marta karoyli took over
 

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Carl Lewis was an amazing athlete but right now all he doing is flapping his gums. As some people said if Bolt and company were American he wouldn't say anything. Lots of runners in the Olympics who have won sprints have been of Jamaican decent ..eff this guy.

I never heard Carl say anything when Montgomery tested for peds or when Maurice grreene was buying peds from a Mexican discus thrower, or Justin Gatlin

America is the dirtiest nation when it comes to cheating in track and Carl Lewis knows that
 

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It's no coincidence American gymnastics were flabby and sick until Bella and Marta karoyli took over

Alot of these people talkin just need to stick to their main Sports of Football, Basketball & Baseball, once they get out of their lane, they get found out.

In the Sporting Cold War, the fall of Communism in the late 80's and early 90's only really benefitted America, they got all the best and worst parts of it all
 

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I just think its sad that everyone regardless of country celebrated Phelps who is one of the greats.... no one questioned him

The minute that Chinese girl started breaking records that American coach starts to allude to drug use.... It reminds me of when it was claimed that south african female runner was a man just because she was winning....

Carl Lewis is a known cheat.....

There was a recent bbc documentary on the 1988 Seoul 100m final, everyone in the race including Carl Lewis and Ben Johnson were interviewed...

Two things that stood out from the documentary, everyone including his teamates hated Carl Lewis...
The second was Ben Johnson saying evryone in that race was doping but he was the only one caught.....

At the end of the documentary they interviewed the head of the doping lab, he said that due to modern techniques they could discover PEDs and masking agents that they couldnt back then, because all samples are stored he said out of curiosity he went back and tested everyone who ran the 100m final, he said all tested positive for PEDs

BBC Four - The Race that Shocked the World
 
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