US Ambassador to Libya killed

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ΘГβĮŦ∆Ŀ ₣℮ŦЏگ;1483474 said:
Ambassador was Raped before he was murdered:

U.S. Ambassador Raped by Muslims Before Killing – Arab Media Reports


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Raped before dying of smoke inhalation? :shaq2:, friend. You should do more reading about how this man died. Dont use demonic blogs as gospel. This man was one of the masterminds behind the coup of Libya. Either way he had a lot of enemies and possibly some within his own organization. He could have been touched out of revenge or to continue for a more demonic reason. Maybe one day the truth will come out. Either way, its so demonic, friend. :sitdown:
 

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Did you graduate high school?

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:umad: i called you on your own bullshyt and while we talking about facts how about you drop some links about MILLIONS of women and children getting raped and murdered in Libya

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“You are the Soviet Union now, guys, and you pay the price,” he said. “You are trying to distribute democracy the way we tried to distribute socialism. You do it the Western way. They hate both.” He said dictators were preferable to the constellation of armed forces that emerges when they are unseated.

“They lynched Qaddafi — do you really think they will be thankful to you?” he said. “They use stupid white people from a big rich and stupid country which they really hate.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/w...ttack-in-libya-vindicates-their-position.html
 

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Libya is in turmoil, tore up by tribal nonsense. Now, let's talk about context.

Libya under strong leadership had the potential to project its wealth towards helping to develop Africa. Gadaffi did/tried to use the country's wealth to set up an exclusively African Monetary Fund, African Central Bank, African Investment bank, an African communications satellite etc. He supported organisations and regimes in other African countries, such as ANC in South Africa. The saintly Nelson Mandela called Gadaffi his brother. Link

So perhaps Gadaffi was motivated by Pan-Africanism. Or perhaps motivated by selfish reasons, I.E. to build support for his regime. Studying Gadaffi's life and come-up makes the former plausible but in the end it's all debatable. From my position it's not possible to ascertain Gadaffi's true motivations. But see, it's not really relevant, because with a strong Libyan state at least the potential would always exist. And in that sense, a strong Libyan state is simply never in the Western powers' best interest.

Gadaffi had been a thorn in the West's side for a long time. The Arab Spring provided an opportunity to take him out and send the country into turmoil with relative ease, seeing as Lybia is a fairly isolated place unlike for instance Syria. Providing arms to opposing tribes and air strikes was a cheap price to pay, and what happens after is of no real concern so long as it doesn't involve the formation of a new strong regime. Tribal warfare and the short-term presence of a few Marines, drones and a couple of warships will insure this.

I suppose whether you buy this line of thought depends on your world view. But it does fit perfectly well within the divide and conquer M.O. that has been employed by America and Europe in the Third World.
 

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Dozens storm, breach wall of U.S. Embassy in Tunisia - CBS News
 

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"The murder of an ambassador in Libya and the attacks on US diplomatic missions in other Arab countries is sure to strengthen the skepticism that more than a few Americans feel toward Muslims and the political changes brought by the Arab revolutions. The deeply held American belief that all you have to do is liberate people from serfdom and dictatorship, and then democracy and a market economy will develop more or less on their own, burned to ash in the trial by fire of Iraq. A fact that academics and historically informed diplomats have always known can now be observed throughout the Arab world: Deeply ingrained cultural attitudes do not change simply because one political regime replaces another. In the long process of building a democratic society, it is not possible to simply skip stages.

German Press Review on Middle East Violence against US Embassies - SPIEGEL ONLINE
 
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