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I wonder why India is never involved in world events?

Where is Russia?


Where is China?



People always want to have their cake and eat it too.

more Indians and Pakistanis have died peacekeeping in Africa than Americans have. While Americans were dropping cruise missiles on Libya and not letting airports operate for decades, who was doing surgery in Libyan hospitals? Indians. Who was teaching Libyan kids? Indians. Feel free to imagine you're the moral force in the world though.

My point is just that thinking anyone living under a dictatorship is asking for a western invasion is a fantasy. This is an undeniable fact and I shouldn't even have to argue it. You want to keep changing the point for some reason.
 

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Did you say death to America when the US and NATO stepped in and stopped the Serbs from cleansing the whole peninsula?

I could go on and on. Take a seat.



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I never said that, and why would I say that? We need to fall back, yes i believe that. I dont understand the logic behind your post, do you think we are in the middle east to "free the people"? We stopped a genocide by the serbs, that is a noble thing, yes, whats your point?
 

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My point is just that thinking anyone living under a dictatorship is asking for a western invasion is a fantasy. This is an undeniable fact and I shouldn't even have to argue it.

you sure you want to set the bar at "anyone"?
 

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more Indians and Pakistanis have died peacekeeping in Africa than Americans have. While Americans were dropping cruise missiles on Libya and not letting airports operate for decades, who was doing surgery in Libyan hospitals? Indians. Who was teaching Libyan kids? Indians. Feel free to imagine you're the moral force in the world though.

My point is just that thinking anyone living under a dictatorship is asking for a western invasion is a fantasy. This is an undeniable fact and I shouldn't even have to argue it. You want to keep changing the point for some reason.

I'm sick of the Anti US sentiment honestly. America is damned if it does damned if it doesn't with the world. The world expects everything from America and when it's can be seen as America having other goals or interests in actions it's condemned(whether its the case or not). The world relies on America for everything, technology, financial vehicles, democracy, financial aid, food, medicine, military intervention on and on. When there are missteps America takes the blame right or wrong. If America takes action its a pariah if it does nothing we're being selfish. The US has two hands tied behind its back every second of everyday. Who else plays by those rules? No one. The rest of the world is made of ineffective relics(the old world) quasi self focused dictatorships(russia/china etc)and children(third world banana republics). Where are you?
 

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I'm sick of the Anti US sentiment honestly. America is damned if it does damned if it doesn't with the world. The world expects everything from America and when it's can be seen as America having other goals or interests in actions it's condemned(whether its the case or not). The world relies on America for everything, technology, financial vehicles, democracy, financial aid, food, medicine, military intervention on and on. When there are missteps America takes the blame right or wrong. If America takes action its a pariah if it does nothing we're being selfish. The US has two hands tied behind its back every second of everyday. Who else plays by those rules? No one. The rest of the world is made of ineffective relics(the old world) quasi self focused dictatorships(russia/china etc)and children(third world banana republics). Where are you?

I am a humanist. If you're going to be a hegemon don't whine about it. Don't act like the US is running a popularity contest on its military interventions--they are products of washington, dc thinking. There are a ton of UN resolutions about things you could follow if you wanted to win the world's favor when it comes to your military action

"Uneasy lies the head that wears a crown." -- Shakespeare. that's life.
 

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Did you say death to America when the US and NATO stepped in and stopped the Serbs from cleansing the whole peninsula?

I could go on and on. Take a seat.



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ΘГβĮŦ∆Ŀ ₣℮ŦЏگ;1483474 said:
Ambassador was Raped before he was murdered:

U.S. Ambassador Raped by Muslims Before Killing – Arab Media Reports


no, i'm not trolling.

:stopitslime: u not but whoever wrote it is


. That’s how they behave in this part of the world, this religion, this ideology


And I can find no AFP story (in English or in French) that says this. And there’s nothing on AFP’s website. That doesn’t mean this didn’t happen. As I said, this is the standard M.O. in the Islamic world.



Oh, and don’t look for the Obama administration to confirm the story if it is true. After all, they would swallow poison to protect the reputation of the “peaceful” religion of Islam
 

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ΘГβĮŦ∆Ŀ ₣℮ŦЏگ;1483474 said:
Ambassador was Raped before he was murdered:

U.S. Ambassador Raped by Muslims Before Killing – Arab Media Reports


no, i'm not trolling.



I posted about this earlier I think, but this seems like total Bullshyt, we seen the body already. Dude looked like he died of smoke inhilation and that's what the first reports from the hospital were saying.

It's just more BS from the media to Animalize the Libyans
 

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I'm sick of the Anti US sentiment honestly. America is damned if it does damned if it doesn't with the world. The world expects everything from America and when it's can be seen as America having other goals or interests in actions it's condemned(whether its the case or not). The world relies on America for everything, technology, financial vehicles, democracy, financial aid, food, medicine, military intervention on and on. When there are missteps America takes the blame right or wrong. If America takes action its a pariah if it does nothing we're being selfish. The US has two hands tied behind its back every second of everyday. Who else plays by those rules? No one. The rest of the world is made of ineffective relics(the old world) quasi self focused dictatorships(russia/china etc)and children(third world banana republics). Where are you?

:pachaha: @ this

- The world expects NOTHING from america
- America ALWAYS has there interest first
- There was a world before america there willbe one after
- When has america played by rules EVER


:deadrose: @ the thought that if america stopped intervening in world affairs tomorrow the world would fall apart and back into the dark ages
 

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@ this

- The world expects NOTHING from america
- America ALWAYS has there interest first
- There was a world before america there willbe one after
- When has america played by rules EVER


@ the thought that if america stopped intervening in world affairs tomorrow the world would fall apart and back into the dark ages


I like where you posted facts and backed them up with examples.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.
:upsetfavre:
 

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I like where you posted facts and backed them up with examples.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.
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I'm sick of the Anti US sentiment honestly. America is damned if it does damned if it doesn't with the world. The world expects everything from America and when it's can be seen as America having other goals or interests in actions it's condemned(whether its the case or not). The world relies on America for everything, technology, financial vehicles, democracy, financial aid, food, medicine, military intervention on and on. When there are missteps America takes the blame right or wrong. If America takes action its a pariah if it does nothing we're being selfish. The US has two hands tied behind its back every second of everyday. Who else plays by those rules? No one. The rest of the world is made of ineffective relics(the old world) quasi self focused dictatorships(russia/china etc)and children(third world banana republics). Where are you?


:whoo: plenty of facts in here too right :heh:
 

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ΘГβĮŦ∆Ŀ ₣℮ŦЏگ;1483474 said:
Ambassador was Raped before he was murdered:

U.S. Ambassador Raped by Muslims Before Killing – Arab Media Reports


no, i'm not trolling.
Christopher Stevens was an Arabist who loved Islam. He sided with the rebels against Khaddafi. He went to Berkeley. I think it is fair to say that he was no fan of Israel or the Jews. I shed no tears for someone like him. He is the sort of person that was a propagandizer for the Arab/Islamic world, and had tried to lull Americans into a passive state vis a vis the Islamic threat. If he was f–ked in the ass, he just got what he and the Obama administration have been doing to the America for the last three and a half years.
 
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