It's not about shutting down a conversation. It's about the widespread practice of never contributing to the church but expecting the church to always come to your rescue.
Tithes are not just used to pay the church mortgage, utilities or pastor's wage. It is used for back to school packs, free groceries for the poor, free breakfast for kids, missionary trips, etc etc on a weekly, sometimes daily basis. But most atheists wouldn't know that b/c they are critiquing from the sidelines with absolutely no insight.
And for the record, Christianity is not synonymous with "a dumb fool I can use."
everybody knows that... the problem is, MOST churches ain't ONLY using it for that.
so when you pull up to a church where the pastor pulling up in the latest 2018 luxury car... church old as dirt.. and you know good and damn well, they ain't doing half the shyt you just wrote... yea... people get a little pissed off
SOME pastors out here making millions, but talking bout help the poor... but you a millionaire, but you ain't helping the poor. some churches collect from tens of thousands of people weekly, sell dvds, sell clothing, sell toys, sell vacation packages, etc.... and when a member gets sick or needs help with the rent... they ain't got that but they'll pray for you
i'm a christian.. i am 150% sure, jesus would not approve of what pastor osteen just did nor said