[UPDATE: CAUGHT] Man reportedly shooting people in Memphis while recording Facebook Live

[xCivicx]

This clown steady smiling , he ain’t never getting out

He thinks hes kodak black

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I get that he was rapping drill music, but I'm surprised we're full on blaming it in this thread. And that's coming from me who has decided to avoid any black-on-black violence music.

Like clearly this guy was more insane than anything, right? Targeting innocents, live streaming it, that's insane cac shyt.

no one is full on blaming, though

 

[Marlo Barksdale]

Alot of y'all clearly aren't really outside around the youth to understand their current thought patterns. Go to your local Title I school and then holla back trying to say the music and the easy acces to everything via smart phones has no negative affect on then.

No, music alone isn't the cause. But the drill IMAGERY and mindset that is promoted in it does influence them because it's not just simple "entertainment." It's reality to them.

They're literally rapping about actual opps and crimes. You can't even find a rapper nowadays that can really be called a studio gangsta. They don't even talk about getting money. Just how many bodies and switches they have. That's why rappers like Lil Baby, Moneybagg & Gunna stand out so much now.

These kids don't even properly grieve because instead of expressing sadness and RIP songs, instead it's "Long Live ____" and "we finna up the score."

He wasn't insane. He was product of his environment. It's thousands of yungins just like him in one city alone. In this case it just made headlines because he crashed out on Live.

 

[BlackMajik]

‘Memphis is tired’: Reporter breaks down on air covering mass shooting just days after Eliza Fletcher murder

Shootings took place as city still reeling from abduction and killing of teacher during early morning jog

www.yahoo.com

 

[jadillac]

Need to cut off this nikka fingers 1 by 1, and then both hands.

And the cut off anybody else fingers who does crimes like this.

And F your explanations and excuses

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

I don't get your point, did you ignore the fact that he was also listening to Fire by Arthur Brown, which is not white supremacist? It literally became a meme because of it. If you can find the original video, he was listening to that right before he came out of the car, which is why Brown was so shocked he made a comment on it. Moreover, did you ignore the fact that even the song you're talking about was on Youtube until relatively recently, showing that such can even be found on Youtube, contradicting your claim that these things aren't available?

And none of this take away from the fact that your position claims influence but can't even explain how said influence works, or can even quantify this level of influence. Yet you expect people to act upon your beliefs when it is beyond vague to begin with.

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What many are discussing, in addition to the horrific New Zealand terror attack is the soundtrack the Brenton Tarrant played. Upon entering his vehicle there was Serbian polka-type music, followed by the British Grenadiers March (that is used for infantry attack). The British Grenadiers March shows that Tarrant was entering the mindset of someone who envisioned himself as possibly going to war.

The music sets an eerie atmosphere for a video that is chilling, haunting, and not suitable for those in the public to view. The New Zealand terror attack video will leave people emotionally traumatized and should not be shared.

There was no question that Brenton Tarrant was listening to a playlist of his choosing and not random music that played on a radio station.

After brutally murdering at least 49 innocent people he returned to his vehicle, rearranged more weapons while "Fire" by The Crazy World of Arthur Brown was playing.

The lyrics sang with strange precision and timing, "I am the god of hellfire and I bring you fire."

I mentioned that Far right/white supremacist isn't easily found on Spotify and Youtube Music. To find that stuff you have to search for it.
@Rhakim summed it up nicely:

But there are plenty of troubled people who never commit acts of that degree of violence. Every single nation has troubled people, but not every nation has acts of mass violence. Outside of rare exceptions, acts of mass violence occur when someone's own instability and anger is encouraged by cultural influences that tell them inflicting violence on others is an appropriate means of dealing with your pain, and the means to act on it are easily available.

Violent drill music is by no means the only cultural influence that does this. White Supremacist rhetoric, extremist incel rhetoric, extremist islamic rhetoric, and certain violent nihilist/antisocial internet subcultures are also ideologies that can influence troubled people to act on their issues with violence. We've talked about them as well - there are threads on how the white nationalist movement leads to violence, there have been threads on the nihilistic internet sites that influence mass shooters. Music that literally encourages people to shoot other people doesn't get a pass.





But how much you promote it has an influence. Norweigian death metal was violent as fukk, but it only inspired a small number of violent people because it was so fringe. Little kids weren't hearing norweigian death metal as they developed because general culture didn't fukk with it, you had to go looking. Whereas there are a million ways for little kids to hear violent drill rap because society has normalized it and "non-violent" listerners are promoting it (even on here) until it gets to impressionable minds.

 

[Turlast]

Alot of y'all clearly aren't really outside around the youth to understand their current thought patterns. Go to your local Title I school and then holla back trying to say the music and the easy acces to everything via smart phones has no negative affect on then.

No, music alone isn't the cause. But the drill IMAGERY and mindset that is promoted in it does influence them because it's not just simple "entertainment." It's reality to them.

They're literally rapping about actual opps and crimes. You can't even find a rapper nowadays that can really be called a studio gangsta. They don't even talk about getting money. Just how many bodies and switches they have. That's why rappers like Lil Baby, Moneybagg & Gunna stand out so much now.

These kids don't even properly grieve because instead of expressing sadness and RIP songs, instead it's "Long Live ____" and "we finna up the score."

He wasn't insane. He was product of his environment. It's thousands of yungins just like him in one city alone. In this case it just made headlines because he crashed out on Live.

This is pure facts. A lot of people hate to admit it.

 

[grendelprime]

Lupe spoke on it 15 years ago

 

[High Art]

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I mentioned that Far right/white supremacist isn't easily found on Spotify and Youtube Music. To find that stuff you have to search for it.
@Rhakim summed it up nicely:

It sounds like those people are trying to draw a correlation where barely any exists and even more, doesn't explain the idea of trying to blame music for something where many people are not effected. I find it interesting that people, instead of looking at the people supposedly effected, they want to blame the music, all the while not bothering to figure out or understand how the music could do such a thing and what instances it would do such a thing. Is it the lyrics, the beat, the music videos, or what? No one wants to actually look at it and instead summarily claim "the music" as if that alone means anything.

If the music has an influence, and the lyrics of a song that had nothing to do with shooting people has a place in this, and we're not going to look at the people effected and instead blame the music, should that song be banned too? Should Arthur Brown's song be banned as well? How would one go about creating a means of policing all lyrics in songs, even in songs that don't involve anything "violent"? Does it stop with music then if mere lyrics are supposedly powerful? Maybe we should extend that to other media. All from a consensus decided upon without any real proof and forward thinking.

And again, the song was easily found before and kids are good at finding all kinds of shyt on the internet so even that is a weak argument. In any case, I find it interesting that in a thread where a guy loses his mind and starts acting out, we are focused on music rather than actual issues that may have lent intself to this more like mental health issues, socioeconomic issues, racial issues even, and issues of parenting. fukk all that, the music is more important.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

‘Memphis is tired’: Reporter breaks down on air covering mass shooting just days after Eliza Fletcher murder

Shootings took place as city still reeling from abduction and killing of teacher during early morning jog

www.yahoo.com

She's such a good reporter, but rather disingenuous comments from her considering that we've been tired for years now of the violence in the city every night and not just those two particular situations that she's referring to. She should know better than as she reports on it on a daily basis. The main difference is that these stories have made national news rather just remaining local.

They still haven’t explained how he ended up only serving 11 months in jail after originally being charged for being in a shootout that injured a 13 year old kid.

 

[Naijan]

September 07, 2022 at 7:22 pm CDT
MEMPHIS, Tenn. — An armed and dangerous man is going around Memphis shooting people, according to Memphis Police.

Police said this is the 19-year-old man responsible for the shooting spree in Memphis on Wednesday, September 7.


At least two shootings had been reported in Memphis as of 7 p.m., a deadly shooting at a BP gas station on South Parkway and a woman who was critically injured after being shot on Norris Road near I-240.



Memphis Police tweeted around 7 p.m. alerting the public.

The man is allegedly driving a blue or silver Infiniti car and recording himself shooting people on Facebook live, police said.

Police do not have any exact location for this man at this time.

Memphis Police said that the Infiniti he is in reportedly has a red dealer tag and a rear window busted out.

If you have any information who this man is or where he may be, call 911 immediately.

 

[DerrtySouthpaw]

He should be slowly dismembered live on ig and fbook. He even killed his friend

 

[3rdWorld]

Prosecutors seeking death penalty in Memphis shootings​

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FILE - Ezekiel Kelly, left, makes his first court appearance on Friday, Sept. 9, 2022 in Memphis, Tenn. On Monday, March 27, 2023, prosecutors said that they will pursue the death penalty if Kelly is convicted of first-degree murder in a daylong shooting rampage in Memphis that left three people dead and three others wounded. (Mark Weber/Daily Memphian via AP, File)
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MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Prosecutors said Monday that they will pursue the death penalty if a Tennessee man is convicted of first-degree murder in a daylong shooting rampage that paralyzed Memphis and left three people dead and three others wounded.
The announcement by Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy came during a press conference in the case of Ezekiel Kelly, who has been charged in a series of shootings in September that led to a citywide shelter-in-place order and a frantic manhunt.
Kelly, 20, was charged with murder in the deaths of Dewayne Tunstall, Richard Clark and Allison Parker. He has pleaded not guilty.
Mulroy listed factors for his decision to file a notice to seek the death penalty, including that it was a random mass shooting and that Kelly that has a prior conviction for aggravated assault.

“This is not a close case,” Mulroy said. “The defendant is alleged to have engaged in an hourslong, apparently random murder spree, killing three people and wounding three others, and terrorizing an entire city in the process.”
Mulroy, a Democrat who was elected last year and was on the job for about a week when the shootings took place, has previously stated his opposition to the death penalty “as a policy matter.”

“If I were a legislator, I would vote against it,” Mulroy said. “But as DA, I have a duty to enforce the law as it is written, whether I agree with it or not.”
At least three witnesses saw Kelly shoot Tunstall during a gathering at a Memphis home at about 1 a.m. on Sept. 7, according to a police affidavit. Clark and Parker were shot later that day, as Kelly was driving around Memphis, livestreaming some of his activities, authorities said.
Police said three other people were wounded in the shootings. An indictment also charges Kelly with attempted first-degree murder and more than 20 other alleged offenses, including reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon, commission of an act of terrorism, theft of property and evading arrest.
Kelly's lawyer did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
The shootings led to the shutdown of Memphis’ public bus system, the lockdown of two college campuses and the cessation of a minor-league baseball game.

Kelly carjacked at least two vehicles before he was arrested when he crashed a stolen car while fleeing police, authorities said.
Police first said that four people were killed, but later revised the total to three after investigators found that one of the deaths was not related to the rampage.
The violence unfolded just a few months after Kelly was released early from a three-year prison sentence for a pair of shootings in 2020.
In February of that year, Kelly, then 17, was charged as an adult with attempted first-degree murder and other crimes in two shootings committed a few hours apart. Both victims survived but did not cooperate with prosecutors, according to court records, and Kelly pleaded guilty to reduced charges of aggravated assault in April 2021.

Kelly was sentenced to three years in prison, but was released in March after serving just over two years behind bars, including credit he received for time he was jailed prior to his plea.
Relatives have told The Associated Press that Parker was a mother of three who worked as a medical assistant at a clinic in nearby West Memphis, Arkansas.
Clark worked as a campus safety officer at Christian Brothers University after retiring from a career as a corrections officer.

 

[Peter Popoff]

I hope the nıgga turns into a vegetable, gets mistaken for dead then cremated alive.