Update (and another one smh R.I.P Incognito (Moscow)) R.I.P. UK Drill rapper Splash Addict (Harlem)

[WaveGang]

Was talking bout the Harlem and Moscow shyt, only place i remember that had a namr like that was Peckham being called Vietnam

Off memory Stockwell was called Baghdad, and this was like 10-11 yrs ago. so yh fashion does comes back around.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

you talking about London? or you just randomly bringing up some US vs UK bullshyt lol.


I negged you for this.



You already admit you dont know shyt, so you needed to fall back with misinformed statements like that.

I was talking about London obvs. I'm just going by what my olders told me about the 80's and 90's

The fucc you get us vs uk crap from when i never spoke about any of that sh'te once in this thread? stay on topic

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Not sure why people are mourning yet still glorifying youths dying. The music is fukking terrible. Lot of you are living vicariously through these guys and thrir stupid actions like recording their crimes

Who are you talking about in this post? It relates to noone in this thread

 

[WaveGang]

I was trying to apply growing up poor in the US as a black man to growing up in the UK as a black man. Over here, most African immigrants do well when they come to the states. I want to know is that different in the UK? I don't know many African immigrants or kids of African immigrants in the states that try to live some 90s gang star.

Basically when I look at those videos, I see imitation of lost blacks in America and it's a bad look.

We're talking about the hood though, some make it out... some dont.

Some parents are educated to a certain level that allows them to instil certain values and morals in their children. Some aint

And idk if youre assuming that most these kids ITT are from African immigrants.. Most would be 2nd/3rd generation Caribbean immigrants. It's long to explain but to keep it short theres not much if any difference from growing up poor in the US vs UK as a black man. Face the same challenges and obstacles.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Was talking bout the Harlem and Moscow shyt, only place i remember that had a namr like that was Peckham being called Vietnam

Siraq and China...tbf to China though...that's China Walk Estate.

I dunno if its a new thing or not...definitely more prevalent in this gen tho for sure you're right about that.

 

[WaveGang]

I was talking about London obvs. I'm just going by what my olders told me about the 80's and 90's

The fucc you get us vs uk crap from when i never spoke about any of that sh'te once in this thread? stay on topic

Coz that's a weird comment to make. In the 90s smoking crack was cool... Compare it to smoking weed nowadays. They used to call it "ting" (Ask your OGs). If you was smoking ting you was that guy, wasn't until the mid 90s that everyone started clocking that mandem could get hooked etc. shyt was going down in the 80s/90s with Yardies and ting but that was more organised crime than just the gang gang ting on a street level.

The Gang culture that gave birth to what we see today only popped off FULLY in like early to mid 00s when there was a big explosion of gang culture.

 

[DapMeUp!]

South london is a shythole....

East has been just as bad if not worse this year

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Coz that's a weird comment to make. In the 90s smoking crack was cool... Compare it to smoking weed nowadays. They used to call it "ting" (Ask your OGs). If you was smoking ting you was that guy, wasn't until the mid 90s that everyone started clocking that mandem could get hooked etc. shyt was going down in the 80s/90s with Yardies and ting but that was more organised crime than just the gang gang ting on a street level.

The Gang culture that gave birth to what we see today only popped off FULLY in like early to mid 00s when there was a big explosion of gang culture.

no you've completely missed what I've meant

you are getting into segmented specifics about crime/crud going on in london...we were talking in GENERAL about whether its worse now or back then. and yardies was still street level...and why are you talking about weed vs crack??? the 'crack era' is just a term to denote the late 80's to mid 90's cos its long writing out late 80's to mid 90's...do you know what, forget it...whatever brah i can't be assed with explaining everything out in this convo

kool, bless up

 

[UberEatsDriver]

What’s Moscow and Harlem?

 

[MikeyC]

South london is a shythole....

Amen to that. Everything about the place is just designed to foster a negative atmosphere.

 

[WaveGang]

no you've completely missed what I've meant

you are getting into segmented specifics about crime/crud going on in london...we were talking in GENERAL about whether its worse now or back then. and yardies was still street level...and why are you talking about weed vs crack??? the 'crack era' is just a term to denote the late 80's to mid 90's cos its long writing out late 80's to mid 90's...do you know what, forget it...whatever brah i can't be assed with explaining everything out in this convo

kool, bless up

No lie I completely missed it... My bad. No one refers to 80/90s as the crack era over here bruh, that's some American shyt thay explains crack crews making mega money.

For the most part we agree.. Coz yh crud BEEN going on. But mid 00s was what birthed what we see today is my point.

Yardies were street level but not comparable to the kids we see today, if you get my drift.. But yh we splitting hairs.. Coz we def agree

 

[JayGatsby]

East has been just as bad if not worse this year

east is bad, but south is the bottom of the bowl.......

linking chicks in south is literally life or death, I went to go see a chick,got to her yard at 10am, fukk that mid day shyt

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

No lie I completely missed it... My bad. No one refers to 80/90s as the crack era over here bruh, that's some American shyt thay explains crack crews making mega money.

For the most part we agree.. Coz yh crud BEEN going on. But mid 00s was what birthed what we see today is my point.

Yardies were street level but not comparable to the kids we see today, if you get my drift.. But yh we splitting hairs.. Coz we def agree

yeah yeah, we're talking about the same stuff...just miscommunication on semantics...

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

What’s Moscow and Harlem?

gangs in south london

harlem = harlem spartans from kennington
moscow = moscow17 from brandon estate

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

east is bad, but south is the bottom of the bowl.......

linking chicks in south is literally life or death, I went to go see a chick,got to her yard at 10am, fukk that mid day shyt

lol, what ends?