University of DC Forum Interviews Dr. Umar Johnson

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A personal website for myself no? A personal website for the organization I'm working with? Yeah we got one but it's basura and I'm ashamed to even post it :snoop:

If you gotta question or something, just ask in here or put something in my inbox :shaq:

no homo of course :whoa:
i'm just asking because I see you're getting money out here. You're clearly doing well for yourself.

i just want to see what you're getting into.
 

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Firstly, what mistakes did he make and how did he squander his money? The UNIA was heavily infiltrated by the FBI and some of his closest associates turned out to be FBI agents whose job it was destroy his organization.

Secondly, there's no such thing as a perfect revolution. Whether it was the UNIA, Panthers, Moorish Science Temple, or NOI. Even the Harvest Institute run by Dr. Anderson has problems.

Obviously we should learn from his mistakes of those who came before us, but Garvey's impact far outweighed the errors he made while alive.

On the flip side, it's my personal opinion every black person should be involved in some organization whose goal is for the betterment of the race. You might not be ready/willing to take on a leadership position, but you can still play a part in organizing others.

But like I always state, don't mind me, I'm just another lost nikka :to:
I shouldn't have said squander but the black star line allegedly suffered from poor mismanagement.
 

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i'm just asking because I see you're getting money out here. You're clearly doing well for yourself.

i just want to see what you're getting into.

:dahell: my nikka reading your post got my spidey senses all tingling.

You trying to set me up to get robbed or something :damn:?
 

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I shouldn't have said squander but the black star line allegedly suffered from poor mismanagement.

Garvey's right hand man who's job it was to pick the boat for the black star line turned out to be an agent for the FBI. Matter fact the very first black agent hired by the FBI was hired specifically to spy on Garvey and the UNIA.

J Edgar Hoover was obsessed with Garvey and wanted nothing more than to destroy the UNIA.

Here's an article that talks about how obsessed the FBI was with him:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/garvey/peopleevents/p_hoover.html

Garvey soon rose to the top of Hoover's list. Federal agents, in collaboration with the New York City police, had begun to report on Garvey's speeches as early as 1917. But as Universal Negro Improvement Association membership and the circulation of The Negro World newspaper ballooned in 1919, Hoover himself targeted Garvey. Referring to Garvey as a "notorious negro agitator," Hoover zealously set about to gather damaging evidence on Garvey and his growing movement. According to Kornweibel, "Hoover and the Justice Department were clearly hooked on a fixation on Garvey which would before long become a vendetta."

Hoover had relied on part-time black informants to track Garvey's movements and U.N.I.A. activities. But in December 1919 his determination to go after Garvey led Hoover to hire the first black agent in the Bureau's history. "By this time the Bureau had discovered that it wasn't going to learn all it needed about Garvey without someone being able to penetrate the movement," according to Kornweibel. "The white agents simply couldn't do it. They were totally conspicuous." The first black agent's name was James Wormley Jones, known as Jack Jones. He was known by the code number "800". "His job," says Kornweibel, "was to go into Harlem and to infiltrate the Garvey movement and to try and find evidence that could be used to build the legal case for ultimately getting rid of Garvey."

Over the next five years, largely under Hoover's direction, Bureau of Investigation officers would report on U.N.I.A. activities in over two dozen cities and pursuit of Garvey would broaden to seven other federal agencies. "They were going to find some way of getting rid of Garvey because they feared his influence," Kornweibel says of Hoover and his government colleagues. "They feared the hundreds of thousands, the masses of blacks under his influence. Garvey rejected America, and they could no more agree to and accept a militant rejection of America by blacks than they could accept a militant demand for full inclusion by blacks." Hoover's determination led him to take extreme measures to counter Garvey's growing influence. According to historian Winston James, "They placed spies in the U.N.I.A. They sabotaged the Black Star Line. The engines... of the ships were actually damaged by foreign matter being thrown into the fuel."

Hoover also placed his agents closer to Garvey than anyone at the time could have imagined. As he and the U.N.I.A. increasingly came under attack from internal dissenters, black critics, and the federal government, one of the few people Garvey confided in was Herbert Boulin, the owner of a Harlem-based black doll company. What Garvey didn't know is that Boulin was an informant for J. Edgar Hoover, known by the Bureau as Agent P-138. "He got closer to Garvey than anyone else working for the government and Garvey was really isolated", says Kornweibel. "Things weren't going well with [his] organization. The Black Star Line was losing money. And so, remarkably, he confesses to this informant that he'd tried suicide, that he was thinking of suicide again."
 

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Garvey's right hand man who's job it was to pick the boat for the black star line turned out to be an agent for the FBI. Matter fact the very first black agent hired by the FBI was hired specifically to spy on Garvey and the UNIA.

J Edgar Hoover was obsessed with Garvey and wanted nothing more than to destroy the UNIA.

Here's an article that talks about how obsessed the FBI was with him:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/garvey/peopleevents/p_hoover.html

:damn: :wow: cacs with no remorse
 

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:damn: :wow: cacs with no remorse

Exactly breh. If Garvey was born in the US they wouldn't have deported him, they would have assassinated him.

Its one of the many reasons why I have 0 trust for cacs. I don't even fukk with light skin nikkas too heavy just to be on the safe side :mjpls:

If I get to that level financially, I'd love to finance a movie on Garvey.
 

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  • Agricultural/Agronomical Science - understanding how to grow our own foods
  • Nutritional Science - knowing when/what/how to eat
  • Political Science - understanding why things that are happening today to black people are the way they are
  • Economic/Financial Science - understanding how money works
  • Military Science - understanding how to work within an oppressive system as black people
  • Spiritual Science - understanding of African spiritual systems
  • Science of the Black Family - understanding of black male and female relationships
This curriculum looks so dope. Even 2 or 3 of these subjects being taught to kids would make a world of difference in the black community.
 
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