United Healthcare CEO shot and killed in Midtown Manhattan this morning (Update 12/9: Suspect in custody)

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Pro-Luigi Mangione content is filling up social platforms — and it's a challenge to moderate it​





Katie Notopoulos, Senior Correspondent covering technology and culture

Luigi Mangione

Luigi Mangione is accused of killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Some people are praising Mangione on social platforms — and it's causing a moderation headache. Pamela Smith/AP

  • YouTube and Threads have taken down pro-Luigi Mangione posts they've said violate their policies.
  • YouTube told Business Insider it forbids videos that glorify the murder of the UnitedHealthcare CEO.
  • The different moderation approaches among platforms are leaving some users confused.

Diana "Ladidai" Umana, a content creator based in New York, has been closely following the news of Luigi Mangione — posting her thoughts on various social media accounts.

Umana's posts are pro-Luigi (and some have unorthodox angles, like saying he wasn't the shooter, which authorities have charged him with). But she was surprised when her entire YouTube account was permanently removed for what YouTube told her were "severe or repeated violations" of its rules.

YouTube's content moderation policies forbid "content praising or justifying violent acts carried out by violent extremist, criminal, or terrorist organizations."

"This means we remove content that glorifies or promotes the suspect in the murder of [UnitedHealthcare CEO] Brian Thompson, as well as content that trivializes his death," Jack Malon, a spokesperson for YouTube, told Business Insider. "This enforcement began in the immediate aftermath of the incident, as part of our standard practice to address content related to violent tragedies."


Other social platforms have also taken down content related to Mangione.

Several subreddits devoted to him have been banned — like r/luigimangione2 — although there are still other active subreddits about him. Reddit referred BI to its content policy, which a spokesperson said "strictly prohibits any content that encourages, glorifies, or calls for violence."

TikTok also has a policy against "promoting (including any praise, celebration, or sharing of manifestos) or providing material support" to violent extremists or individuals who cause serial or mass violence. People have complained that TikTok has removed comments saying "Free Luigi" and some videos about Mangione.

On Meta's Threads, people have said some of their posts about Mangione — like a post about his astrological sign or a video montage of him set to an Olivia Rodgigo song — were removed.

Meta has similar guidance, banning the "glorification" of dangerous organizations and individuals, which it defines as "legitimizing or defending the violent or hateful acts of a designated entity by claiming that those acts have a moral, political, logical or other justification that makes them acceptable or reasonable."

However, Meta recently updated what it calls its dangerous organizations and individuals policy to allow for "more social and political discourse in certain instances including — peace agreements, elections, human rights related issues, news reporting and academic, neutral and condemning discussion — and to ensure users are not unduly penalized for sharing it."

A spokesperson for Meta pointed to this policy but declined to comment further.


Pro-Lugi posts can be difficult to moderate​


You might imagine how, when it comes to posts discussing Luigi Mangione, there are some gray areas between what's considered praise vs. discussion of social issues.

That's where the deluge of pro-Luigi posts from American users on social platforms gets a little weird.

Mangione's popularity among some people online is complicated, and I won't try to untangle it here (read this or this for some smart analysis). But you've probably already observed some of this online: There are a lot of people posting about Mangione and running afoul of content guidelines that they'd never usually run up against — rules designed for posts praising ISIS or Mexican drug cartels, for instance.

The result is some confusion and frustration among users.

Content moderation is an art, not a science, and there's a spectrum of differences between a statement like "Luigi was justified" and a meme about his looks or an ironic fan cam edit video.

Mangione has been charged with first-degree murder "in furtherance of terrorism," which may clarify things for platforms about whether to consider him as a single accused murderer or an alleged terrorist when it comes to content policy.

For now, it seems that a lot of social media users are surprised or confused by what is or isn't allowed when talking about Mangione on social media.

Update: January 5, 2025 — This story was updated with a comment from a Reddit spokesperson on the company's content policy.
 

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1/35
Max Kennerly

To everyone's surprise, it turns out that attaching a money-sucking machine to a hospital system makes it worse.

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2/35
‪Lvl20FullCaster‬ ‪@opportunemarmoset.bsky.social‬

Congress should hang them all, but the finance ghouls pay for their vacation homes.

3/35
‪Cliffnotes‬ ‪@cliffnotes917.bsky.social‬

Now do private equity firms buying Assisted Living/Nursing Homes with the same result.

4/35
‪Star Sage‬ ‪@excalibre2030.bsky.social‬

.

From hospitals and schools to the VA and beyond, 'privatization' means 'for profit'; and that means inflated costs, lower payrolls, less dedication, reduced quality and minimal effectiveness.

It also means dumber kids, smarter criminals and thousands of unnecessarily unhealed or dead Americans.

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5/35
‪RoLynn‬ ‪@16rolynn.bsky.social‬

Private equity firms destroy every business they involve themselves with.

6/35
‪Erik Kennedy‬ ‪@erikkennedy.com‬

The purpose of a system is what it does.

7/35
‪jke-il.bsky.social‬ ‪@jke-il.bsky.social‬

Huh ‼️‼️ *Who* could have predicted that hospitals owned by private equity would offer shytty patient care while investors reaped big bucks
Who could have seen *that* coming...

8/35
‪pokebrain1.bsky.social‬ ‪@pokebrain1.bsky.social‬

Hospice, too.
The nurses have to push unneeded devices & tx.
Hard for families to say no to moms final care

9/35
‪Millie Ashmore‬ ‪@reflectionroom.bsky.social‬

Gasp 🫢 I would have never thought…

10/35
‪dirgesinthedark.bsky.social‬ ‪@dirgesinthedark.bsky.social‬

The idea of "perpetual growth" and that fukking everything should make money needs to die before it kills us all.

11/35
‪Your wrath auntie‬ ‪@auntyenmity.bsky.social‬

Actually they own far more than the data says. And nursing homes and home health is even more aggregious.

12/35
‪carlton2025.bsky.social‬ ‪@carlton2025.bsky.social‬

To no-one’s surprise ever, who has had to deal with privately managed health or aged care facilities.

13/35
‪Left for a better world‬ ‪@lfabw.bsky.social‬

Private Equity firms are one of the worst parasites capitalism has invented (and there are many).

14/35
‪circlelady.bsky.social‬ ‪@circlelady.bsky.social‬

Private equity is buying up physician practices. Our healthcare system will further crumble when profits are put before patients.

15/35
‪Amnesiatron‬ ‪@amnesiatron.bsky.social‬

Been to the vet lately? It's already heavily happened with veterinarians and it's awful. My bunny vet got fired because she refused to recommend medical treatment patients didn't need and found a private practice to work with instead. Not think about that with human healthcare where you have the

16/35
‪Amnesiatron‬ ‪@amnesiatron.bsky.social‬

Insurance company squeezing the patient saying nothing is covered and the Dr getting squeezed by the equity firm to sell more and more unnecessary procedures that insurance won't cover...

17/35
‪Michael Hayward‬ ‪@haywarmi.bsky.social‬

This country is so obsessed with the privatization cult that it can't comprehend that while the profit motive works very well for some things, it's is a danger to society for others. It doesn't have to be either or, it can be customized to work where it should and not where it doesn't.

18/35
‪Toby Berry‬ ‪@tobyberry6325.bsky.social‬

Exactly. So many countries have univ healthcare. We can learn and tweak their systems to work for us. No need to reinvent the wheel or let fear based for profit medicine continue

19/35
‪Waifu_Depot‬ ‪@waifudepot.bsky.social‬

Right? It's utterly astonishing on one hand how everyone can look at the mess the system is yet those same people, even those not on the Right, freak out over funding care for everyone citing.....fears about the system becoming what it already is

Propaganda is a hell of a drug

20/35
‪Toby Berry‬ ‪@tobyberry6325.bsky.social‬

Yep. Truth.

21/35
‪mankatowilder.bsky.social‬ ‪@mankatowilder.bsky.social‬

Venture Capitalist
Entrepreneur
Hedge Fund
Private Equity

Why don't we just call them what they are: Economic Terrorists

22/35
‪Mr. Natural‬ ‪@kevinconrad.bsky.social‬

Vultures

23/35
‪Fearsome Crone‬ ‪@magarst.bsky.social‬

EVERYTHING will have a money-sucking machine attached to it under Trump. We need more Luigis and NO greedy CEOs.

24/35
‪Striving for Zen‬ ‪@ebcollis.bsky.social‬

Who knew? I find it strange that the argument against single payer seems to be that healthcare will be rationed. Has no one besides me ever dealt with an insurance company denying care? Or the fact that even after the ACA got insurance to 24 million new people there are still 26 million uninsured

25/35
‪Borderblaster1570‬ ‪@bradlovett.bsky.social‬

But…but…but if a Capatalist company is doing the rationing, it’s not socialism, or something

26/35
‪WTAF Daily 💙‬ ‪@patiod.bsky.social‬

Massachusetts got it right this morning in its curbs on private equity in healthcare, but I doubt any other state is willing to go up against these greedy hogs

27/35
‪Benjamin Husstad-Nedberg‬ ‪@factforce.bsky.social‬

Really strange. America should really consider a completely differend health care system. The one we have here in #Norway is free, state owned, and one of the best in the world💪
Ignorants call it "socialism", enlightened people can dm me for questions😉

28/35
‪burgermind‬ ‪@burgermind.bsky.social‬

Norway is rich with oil money and has the world's largest sovereign wealth fund and a population of under six million people.

29/35
‪anthrosciguy.bsky.social‬ ‪@anthrosciguy.bsky.social‬

And we spend about 1.5x per capita on healthcare compared to them, so if we did what they do we'd save about a third of our healthcare money. And they spend more than anyone else in Europe, so we could save even more.

So doing that would save us money, not cost us.

30/35
‪Doc Nebula‬ ‪@docnebula.bsky.social‬

My mom was a maternity nurse most of her life. She used to tell me absolutely grim stories about what had happened to quality of care in Florida once the big corporations bought up all the hospitals. These people simply do not GAF if their patients suffer and die unnecessarily.

31/35
‪Lisa Roberts‬ ‪@lisajustlisa.bsky.social‬

Surprise like learning the Pope is Catholic.

32/35
‪Glenn From 8 land‬ ‪@glenn61.bsky.social‬

I'm shocked?

33/35
‪dignityordeath.bsky.social‬ ‪@dignityordeath.bsky.social‬

This is what happens when "lawmakers" abdicate their duties to private insurance corporations while they continue to get the best care in the world compliments of the U.S. taxpayer.
If you want quality health care take away theirs and make them pay for it themselves.
Watch how fast it's fixed.

34/35
‪slarty-bartfast.bsky.social‬ ‪@slarty-bartfast.bsky.social‬

I’m so grateful I’m Australian with universal healthcare.

35/35
‪instantdogma.bsky.social‬ ‪@instantdogma.bsky.social‬

For profit heath care sucks.

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Shareholders urge UnitedHealth to analyze impact of healthcare denials​


By Amina Niasse and Ross Kerber

January 9, 20259:39 AM ESTUpdated 12 min ago

UnitedHealth Group's headquarters building is seen in Minnetonka, Minnesota


UnitedHealth Group's headquarters building is seen in Minnetonka, Minnesota, U.S. in this handout picture taken in 2019. UnitedHealth Group/Handout via REUTERS/File Photo Purchase Licensing Rights

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NEW YORK / BOSTON, Jan 8 (Reuters) - UnitedHealth Group (UNH.N)

, opens new tab shareholders on Wednesday said they requested the company prepare a report on the costs and public health impact related to its "practices that limit or delay access to healthcare."

If the proposal makes it to a vote at the company's annual meeting it would raise a charged topic after a senior executive was gunned down in Manhattan last month.

A spokesperson for UnitedHealth said the company will respond to shareholder proposals for its 2025 proxy statement once it files the document that serves as an agenda for its annual meeting, which has not yet been scheduled. In recent years, the company has issued its proxy in April ahead of a June annual meeting.

Those who filed the resolution include religious groups led by the Sisters of the Holy Names of Jesus and Mary of Quebec, and Trillium Asset Management.

The group proposed an analysis of how prior authorization, or approval required by an insurer before a patient can receive medical care, and denials of medical services lead patients to forgo treatment.

“The pattern of delays and denials of necessary medical care by UnitedHealth and other insurance companies harms more than just the patient themselves,” Wendell Potter, president of the Center for Health & Democracy and a former Cigna (CI.N)

, opens new tab executive, said in a statement sent in support of the resolution by the Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility.

UnitedHealth runs the country's largest health insurer, UnitedHealthcare, as well as pharmacy benefit manager Optum and medical practices.

The killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in December galvanized criticism of U.S. health insurers, with swarms of patients describing delayed or denied care and accusing companies of using deceptive practices.

Luigi Mangione, 26, who was accused of killing Thompson, pleaded not guilty in a New York court in December after receiving thousands of dollars in public donations shortly after his arrest.

In a December statement, UnitedHealth said it approves and pays for an average of 90% of medical claims submitted.

"Highly inaccurate and grossly misleading information has been circulated about our company’s treatment of insurance claims," UnitedHealth said.

UnitedHealth CEO Andrew Witty in a message to employees described Thompson as "one of the good guys," adding the company would continue to service the most vulnerable Americans.

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Reporting by Amina Niasse in New York and Ross Kerber in Boston; editing by Caroline Humer and Bill Berkrot
 

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1/11
@QasimRashid
We now know UnitedHealth—under Brian Thompson—illegally overcharged cancer patients for meds by more than 1000%.

What we don't know is how many cancer patients died or were financially ruined as a result?

What we demand to know is why that act isn't deemed corporate murder?



2/11
@DaRealTonyFauci
Because that’s how our system works



3/11
@SilasMoore299
Interesting. Can you provide exactly which laws were broken and the drug in question? You provided nothing in your post except click bait. If this is true, there are a lot of good X people that should know the details.



4/11
@gradtofreedom
Brian Thompson = Vinita Nair. Both r UNHEALTHYCARE Red Skulls against humanity. GREED... Proverbs 28:22 The stingy r eager 2 get rich & r unaware that poverty awaits them.
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5/11
@McBainus
Why are there question marks after sections 2 & 3?



6/11
@KFFNCOACH
The oligarchy.



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7/11
@DBS110
Indeed.
If corporations can be considered individuals, why can't they be charged with murder?



8/11
@dorthea_patriot
I am provider who was put out in the street during the height of the pandemic, while I was quarantined by my doctor due to have had a life threatening illness, because of @Optum, a subsidiary of @UHC not paying me for work that I had done. @UHC owes me money now.



9/11
@AAMarketerLLC
Our system is so lenient on corporate offenders. We levy fines but that is no deterrent for the evil acts they do. It's a loophole the corporate giants exploit.



10/11
@DouglasE4True
It is time to reorganize the corporation model and directly connect senior management to the health & safety outcomes of the corporations they run.



11/11
@WhirledCitizen_
We need lawyers for a lawsuit!!




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Why is this thread so long? Update this shyt when this cracker get sentenced. Dumb ass threw his life away and nikkas wanna act like he some revolutionary. Nobody is willing to go kill a random ceo of a company they wasn’t even signed up with like this man. He’s a fukking idiot and I’m still hell confused at people championing this privileged white boy who threw his life away committing a senseless murder. Let this had been a nikka with dreads named Jamal and you wouldn’t have all this goofy shyt going on
 

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