United Healthcare CEO killed in Midtown NYC; Luigi Mangione in custody of NYPD awaiting trial

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This would be on him, when you have a manifesto....you have a motive that is beyond personal cause.
This is bootlicker nonsense. There's a personal reason for most killings.

NOBODY got charged for terrorism for January 6th.
 

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This is bootlicker nonsense. There's a personal reason for most killings.

When you can find an ideology and a personally outlined motive, you can charge terrorism.

It's not me defending or endorsing. I'm simply explaining how that works. Like the van guy, who drove a van onto the Westside Highway in 2017. Or, obviously like Kacinsyski. Wasn't just murdering people, he was causing terror, through murder for a ideological reaons.
 

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When you can find an ideology and a personally outlined motive, you can charge terrorism.

It's not me defending or endorsing. I'm simply explaining how that works. Like the van guy, who drove a van onto the Westside Highway in 2017. Or, obviously like Kacinsyski. Wasn't just murdering people, he was causing terror, through murder for a ideological reaons.
So why did nobody get charged for terrorism for January 6th?

This is a nonsense charge and only put out there because a wealthy CEO was killed. If any poster on this board got murdered and somebody had a manifesto railing against them, nobody would care and there would be no terrorism charge.
 

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New York Considering Special Hotline Just for CEOs to Report Alleged Threats to Their Safety After Brian Thompson Killing​



Social media users slammed Kathy Hochul for floating using taxpayer dollars to fund the potential hotline.​

Taylor Odisho /Published Dec 17 2024, 11:26 AM EST

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Kathy Hochul may potentially create a hotline "just for CEOs" who feel threatened. ANGELA WEISS/AFP
New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering creating a special hotline just for CEOs to report alleged threats to their safety after UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was gunned down in the middle of Manhattan earlier this month, according to a report.

Ahead of a "proactive" meeting between Hochul and175 corporate representatives, counterterrorism officials and Homeland Security on Tuesday, CNN reported that New York was considering the CEO hotline option.

The meeting was scheduled to ensure "the state resources, specifically the domestic counterterrorism resources, are focused on being supportive, sharing information," Kathy Wylde, CEO of the Partnership for New York City, told Politico.

"This demonstrates that New York has the most prepared and capable counterterrorism resources in the country. There's no safer place to be," Wylde added.

If executives at the many companies headquartered in New York City relocated because of safety concerns, New York City's GDP, which generated $1.286 trillion in 2023, would be threatened.

Officials continue painting threats against companies and executives as "domestic terrorism." Most recently, Briana Boston was initially charged by a Florida court of threats to conduct a mass shooting or an act of terrorism, which can carry a sentence of 15 years in prison, after she told a BlueCross BlueShield employee, "Delay, Deny, Depose. You people are next" because her health insurance claim was denied.

Social media users were shocked by the news and questioned why the New York governor would consider using taxpayer dollars to fund the hotline for multi-millionaire CEOs and billion-dollar companies.

"I don't seem to remember this kind of a state response and resources going to NYC when the homicide rate spiked around 2022 but I guess that was just regular people," X user @lukewgoldstein shared.


I don’t seem to remember this kind of a state response and resources going to NYC when the homicide rate spiked around 2022 but I guess that was just regular people x.com

— Luke Goldstein (@lukewgoldstein)
December 13, 2024

"There have been 322 school shootings this year. This should radicalize you," another X user stated the same day a 15-year-old student opened fire on her classmates, killing three and injuring six.

There have been 322 school shootings this year. This should radicalize you. x.com

— potato bun (@erewhonsmoothie)
December 17, 2024

"Kathy Hochul weighing a special safety hotline for CEOs at the same time she's debating whether to veto a bill to curb workplace deaths and injuries," X user @ravi_mangla pointed out.

Kathy Hochul weighing a special safety hotline for CEOs at the same time she's debating whether to veto a bill to curb workplace deaths and injuries. x.com pic.twitter.com/DzLQ5q8xQg

— Ravi Mangla (@ravi_mangla)
December 16, 2024

"How about an 'exclusive' hotline for if your insurance company won't pay for your meds? If climate-related flooding destroys your home? If your tax dollars are supporting a genocide? If an executive exploits tax loopholes? A government contractor steals taxpayer money?" X user @snmrrw commented.

How about an 'exclusive' hotline for if your insurance company won't pay for your meds? If climate-related flooding destroys your home? If your tax dollars are supporting a genocide? If an executive exploits tax loopholes? A government contractor steals taxpayer money? x.com

— Sean Morrow (@snmrrw)
December 16, 2024

"Democracy is when rich people get a special hotline for their own personal protection," another X user posted.

Democracy is when rich people get a special hotline for their own personal protection x.com

— Bryce Greene (@TheGreeneBJ)
December 16, 2024
 

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So why did nobody get charged for terrorism for January 6th?

They probably considered it. They used "sedition" instead, or conspiracy to commit sedition for the more serious ones.

They found that obstructing thing for the low level players, which was most of them.

You would have to prove that the 'Jan. 6th group' was a designated terrorist group, which they are not. Then you could potentially charge like material support to a terrorism group.

What's being lost in the reporting and people probably not reading is the actual charge is Murder, to further an act of terrorism. He's not actually being charged with being a terrorist. It's an aggrevating offense. Special circumstances, in other words. Media outlets are running because it sounds sensational. It's like murder with special circumstances of torture.
 

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They probably considered it. They used "sedition" instead, or conspiracy to commit sedition for the more serious ones.

They found that obstructing thing for the low level players, which was most of them.

You would have to prove that the 'Jan. 6th group' was a designated terrorist group, which they are not. Then you could potentially charge like material support to a terrorism group.

What's being lost in the reporting and people probably not reading is the actual charge is Murder, to further an act of terrorism. He's not actually being charged with being a terrorist. It's an aggrevating offense. Special circumstances, in other words. Media outlets are running because it sounds sensational. It's like murder with special circumstances of torture.
What's sensational about terrorism being reported for being listed in the charges? Dylann Roof did not face terrorism charges.

If this was a local auto-shop owner who was killed, there wouldn't be any mention of terrorism. You're proving my point about moving goalposts depending on the status of the victim.
 

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But they didn't label it terrorism.

No, they labeled it a hate crime. There's plenty of cases being charged as terrorism, you just didn't follow them, I don't mean that disrespectfully, it's just not on your radar. But for the Manhattan DA's office, which again, highest profile in the country, yeah they are "reaching" in a sense. They probably haven't ever done this on a the local DA level, in 100 years. if ever. Common on the federal side, because after Guantaamono, they wanted fed prosecutors to handle terrorism cases, rather than military because it took too fukking long.
 

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If that's the case, should healthcare insurance CEOs be under the terror watch list? Because they let a lot of Americans die every year, death panels.:yeshrug:

imo labeling this terrorism and handling the story the way the government and media has will likely trigger copycat murders and social unrest at best
 

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No one said any health care system is perfect, but universal health care is better for Americans than what we have now.
Democrats will never agree to shut down the border, so it's a non-starter

the middle class pays for universal healthcare, not the poor. that means no more letting in millions of broke, homeless people at the southern border, to overwhelm the system. all these countries that liberals envy for their healthcare; canada, the UK, japan, all have strict immigration requirements for a reason

so if AOC agrees to that, we can talk :ehh:
 
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