Under which height is iverson the goat ?

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Zeke was a much better defender as well. although some might be attributed to fact that he was one of the dirtiest players of all time(yes im a zeke hater but even i don't believe iverson was better).
Iverson had to be paired up with combo guards to make defensive assignments work properly and to have someone to run the offense in between AI isos and pick and rolls.
Zeke could actually run the offense and cover his position.
 

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:what:how are you going to be from the Chi dissing Zeke, you deserve the tables breh.


Besides I meant as a player to help refine his game, and looking back Zeke could have help him business wise as well with his dough.


:russ: at Zeke getting bloodied by Paxson. Art you're the dude but you are wrong here.

He got fukk'n bloodied by Cartwright, after that, too.
Also,...zeke character is so bad.
He would never have been a good anything to anybody.
Zeke had fukk'n marbury lawyered up, and catching sexual predator accomplice charges.
not to long after, marbury is eating vaseline.
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Sorry, but ai is better than a tub of Vaseline.
Plus, a better person publicly.
Usually, I defend legends but real talk,...
Zeke was a fukk'n scourge.
Not to mention, when i run into older hoopers, the word on zeke is never positive, ever!
No way in hell was he nicer than ai as a person or as a player.

I ain't goin!

fukk'n John Thompson changed his whole Legacy and style of coaching for ai.
I do not see zeke being capable of that, feat at all.

not to mention zeke, was leading revolts against a rookie mj.
so, mj as a young bull could not get light, cause zeke was bytchmade and getting bodied.

alternatively, ai was showing and proving.
In the most celebrated crossover of all time against his airness.
No way in fukking hell is zeke a mentor, or better than ai.




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He got fukk'n bloodied by Cartwright, after that, too.
Also,...zeke character is so bad.
He would never have been a good anything to anybody.
Zeke had fukk'n marbury lawyered up, and catching sexual predator accomplice charges.
not to long after, marbury is eating vaseline.
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Sorry, but ai is better than a tub of Vaseline.
Plus, a better person publicly.
Usually, I defend legends but real talk,...
Zeke was a fukk'n scourge.
Not to mention, when i run into older hoopers, the word on zeke is never positive, ever!
No way in hell was he nicer than ai as a person or as a player.

I ain't goin!

fukk'n John Thompson changed his whole Legacy and style of coaching for ai.
I do not see zeke being capable of that, feat at all.

not to mention zeke, was leading revolts against a rookie mj.
so, mj as a young bull could not get light, cause zeke was bytchmade and getting bodied.

alternatively, ai was showing and proving.
In the most celebrated crossover of all time against his airness.
No way in fukking hell is zeke a mentor, or better than ai.




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lol at you arguing that AI has better character than anybody. Dude never had a professional mentality. Iverson is more famous for his practice rant than for any accomplishments he did on the court.
Zeke at made his teammates better all personality flaws aside.
 

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Agreed and I'm an AI fan. Isiah could get a bucket whenever he wanted. And AI didnt have the handles or passing ability of Zeke either.
Now I give Zeke his props and say he was better than AI since he knew the team game was the best way to win but I don't know if his handle was better than Bubba Chuck's. Ai's handle was and still is legendary though Thomas was far from a slack in that area.
 

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Isiah might have something to say about that.

Yea Big AI fan but Isiah holds this crown...

although Zeke was on much better teams

3 straight final appearances for the bad boys?
 

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lol at you arguing that AI has better character than anybody. Dude never had a professional mentality. Iverson is more famous for his practice rant than for any accomplishments he did on the court.
Zeke at made his teammates better all personality flaws aside.


So ai did not gel and take mutumbo another gu pedigree'd center further.
Ai, did not take Aaron mckie further.
Ai did not take Eric snow further.
Ai did not give raja bell his whole confidence amd swag at the pro level.
Zeke would have never taken that ragtag bunch of characters ai willed anywhere.
Zeke was paired with argueably two of the most highest executing sg's as a starter and on the depth charts in microwave and dumars.
nikka microwave was Ricky pierce on the bench.
Dumars was Jordan's basketball IQ equivalent archnemesis.
He had Rodman, when Rodman was all purpose for real.
From grit to scoring to rebounding.
Mahorn and laimbeer were tombstone and the rose.
Spider-man rogue gallery style villains in the flesh.
He had adrian dantley[one of that era's elite scorers], mark aguire [one of that era's elite scorers] and james fukking edwards
Zeke could never have moved over to the sg like ai.
Yet, i know on paper before two slowed down years from politic bullshyt in Detroit, that was deflected into him. Just because, and to hide the nice guy pedigree of rip, that ai had to be the fallguy. Ai had assist numbers platooned at the sg rivaling if not better than Zeke.

nikka you must have lost your mind on nostalgia, but on no fukking day was zeke seeing ai, period.
you bought into scapegoat propaganda and one fukking hs incident negative pr smear campaign on ai.
There is no way in hell,...zeke is better than ai.

I love nostalgia, but i love facts more.
ai was clearly way better than zeke, period.

nikka, even Zeke may walk of the court on you after that bullshyt, you posted.

Ai > zeke


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Also,...
To table you when more in long hand,....
ai never threw his man's under the bus.
To the point, bird is better friends with magic.
When, magic hated bird at first and Zeke was his la running buddy on some cool shyt.
 
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So ai did not gel and take mutumbo another gu pedigree'd center further.
Ai, did not take Aaron mckie further.
No he didn't
Ai did not take Eric snow further.
Snow would've been so much greater if he never met AI
Ai did not give raja bell his whole confidence amd swag at the pro level.
Look at him Now, next
Zeke would have never taken that ragtag bunch of characters ai willed anywhere.
You act as if his Pistons Squad was full of Hall of Famers. Put Iverson on that Team in that year and they don't make the playoffs
Zeke was paired with argueably two of the most highest executing sg's as a starter and on the depth charts in microwave and dumars.
Dumars was Jordan's basketball IQ equivalent archnemesis.
Dumars was getting shytted on all post season by IQ equal stop it.
He had Rodman, when Rodman was all purpose for real.
Now i know you don't what the fukk you talking about. He had Rodman before he capable of double digit rebounds and before he was a true lock down defender. He mastered defense due to playing with the pistons.
If anything this show zekes influence on making players better because he went on to become an allstar

From grit to scoring to rebounding.
Mahorn and laimbeer were tombstone and the rose.
Spider-man rogue gallery style villains in the flesh.
He had adrian dantley[one of that era's elite scorers], mark aguire [one of that era's elite scorers] and james fukking edwards
All three those elite scorers were past their primes and had a combined age of 100 years old.
Zeke could never have moved over to the sg like ai.
AI never moved anywhere defensively. He had to play with combo guards in order to be a sg because he couldn't defend full size two guards.
technically he was always a pg on D.

Yet, i know on paper before two slowed down years from politic bullshyt in Detroit, that was deflected into him. Just because, and to hide the nice guy pedigree of rip, that ai had to be the fallguy. Ai had assist numbers platooned at the sg rivaling if not better than Zeke.
They weren't better than Zeke's though. The fukk are you saying. :heh: The fukk kinda of bullshyt argument is that?
He had numbers almost as good as somebody so that makes him better? :heh:



Also,...
To table you when more in long hand,....
ai never threw his man's under the bus.
To the point, bird is better friends with magic.
When, magic hated bird at first and Zeke was his la running buddy on some cool shyt.
:russ: The fukk are you even saying? AI threw his whole team under the bus and was force into early retirement because he refused accept his role.
Not that it matters you acting like being friends with your rivals makes you a better player.

:deadhorse::stylin::lift::camby:
 

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Now I give Zeke his props and say he was better than AI since he knew the team game was the best way to win but I don't know if his handle was better than Bubba Chuck's. Ai's handle was and still is legendary though Thomas was far from a slack in that area.

Isiah had way better ball control IMO. You rarely if ever saw Isiah dribbling erratically. AI tho? :patrice: I've seen Allen out of control plenty. And he used to carry a lot. I think Tim Hardaway had a better crossover as well. AI had handles but there's a few dudes, even some of his contemporaries, that I think dribbled better. AI was just dumb quick with the rock tho.
 

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Isiah had way better ball control IMO. You rarely if ever saw Isiah dribbling erratically. AI tho? :patrice: I've seen Allen out of control plenty. And he used to carry a lot. I think Tim Hardaway had a better crossover as well. AI had handles but there's a few dudes, even some of his contemporaries, that I think dribbled better. AI was just dumb quick with the rock tho.
Well we agree to disagree on that one. AI carried some but lots of players do and they are still lauded as having a great dribble.
 

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Well we agree to disagree on that one. AI carried some but lots of players do and they are still lauded as having a great dribble.

I think AI has a great dribble. I just think Isiah's is greater.
 

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I think that AI was far better than Zeke at getting his shot off the dribble.



Struggle title though.
 
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