Umar Johnson comes for Shannon Sharpe. The Hypocrisy.

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Most of the nikkas on The Coli coming for Dr. Umar be the PAWG lovers and nEGrOes who never donated a single dime to his fundraiser all the way tryna wonder why his school hasn't been built yet. :gucci::aicmon:

Idiots.

I have donated and my business partners as well there are no progress updated or how things are going. Maybe there has been amessage but I never a got notification. Not angry just stating facts.

Either way Umar needs to focus on the economic part of his message and the other parts he needs to ease up off heavy. Any man promoting a heavy family core and I never seen his family in any capacity makes me wonder. Why are they not around?
 
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I said that Umar isn't married to any of the mother(s) of his children. He smartly shields his children from the spotlight as well as his personal business. I've gathered info just from his videos that he has 2 children with 2 women and was never married to either of them. Neither of the children live in his household either, from what I've gathered.

If this is the truth, it certainly contradicts his themes and lectures about promoting strong Black families.

This is a bigger red flag that the one he is raising about Shannon Sharpe. Sharpe doesn't promote himself as anything other than a football player and show host.
so he kept his fam and personal business out the spot light, but you still feel comfortable drawing conclusions from non-Umar videos talmbowt his family dynamics?
a man that doesn't have neither of his kids living with him is a red flag about that man?
a strong Black family is only the dynamics of having married parents and living in the same household?

If Shannon only promoted himself as a football player, then he wouldn't be sharing his opinions about racial issues on a national show. He gets respect and props for his efforts, but is correctly criticized for not complimenting that knowledge and experience by having a union with a Black woman

But more importantly, could you explain why there are economical and socially successful non-black subgroups and communities that are implementing variation of Umar's ideology and not the open love, social advocacy for all, and fickle support of members approach to achieving their goals?
 

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1)so he kept his fam and personal business out the spot light, but you still feel comfortable drawing conclusions from non-Umar videos talmbowt his family dynamics?

2)a man that doesn't have neither of his kids living with him is a red flag about that man?

3)a strong Black family is only the dynamics of having married parents and living in the same household?

4)If Shannon only promoted himself as a football player, then he wouldn't be sharing his opinions about racial issues on a national show. He gets respect and props for his efforts, but is correctly criticized for not complimenting that knowledge and experience by having a union with a Black woman

5)But more importantly, could you explain why there are economical and socially successful non-black subgroups and communities that are implementing variation of Umar's ideology and not the open love, social advocacy for all, and fickle support of members approach to achieving their goals?

1)My exact quote from the previous post is
I've gathered info just from his videos that he has 2 children with 2 women and was never married to either of them

2) A man who bases his lecture circuit on Black family & Black male role models for Black boys and who is not raising his own children in his household certainly raises red flags.

3) No, but the nuclear family is the basis for society..any society. Dr. Johnson knows this better than either of us, yet he has at least two illegitimate children. Neither of the children live with him. Even he would tel you that this isn't an ideal situation.

4) Shannon is an ex athlete hosting a show about sports. When sports and race intersect, he's going to articulate his opinions. Regardless of who he is married to, Shannon Sharpe has walked the earth for near 50 years as a Black man in America. More importantly as a Black who has occupied different social classes in his life.He's seen racism and society from different perspectives. I started paying attention to Sharpe years ago when the richie incogntio story broke in Miami..and he READ the riot act to the Dolphins players who allegedly let R.I. use racial slurs around them.


He screamed on them. I was actually surprised later to see the white wife. He keeps it 100 about sports and race topics though.


5)Dr. Johnson didn't invent the wheel. For MY relatives, I want them to marry and have children with BLACK people..and it's the most natural thing to think so. If they choose not to, I would hardly consider them traitors though.
 
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1)My exact quote from the previous post is
I've gathered info just from his videos that he has 2 children with 2 women and was never married to either of them

2) A man who bases his lecture circuit on Black family & Black male role models for Black boys and who is not raising his own children in his household certainly raises red flags.

3) No, but the nuclear family is the basis for society..any society. Dr. Johnson knows this better than either of us, yet he has at least two illegitimate children. Neither of the children live with him. Even he would tel you that this isn't an ideal situation.

4) Shannon is an ex athlete hosting a show about sports. When sports and race intersect, he's going to articulate his opinions. Regardless of who he is married to, Shannon Sharpe has walked the earth for near 50 years as a Black man in America. More importantly as a Black who has occupied different social classes in his life.He's seen racism and society from different perspectives. I started paying attention to Sharpe years ago when the richie incogntio story broke in Miami..and he READ the riot act to the Dolphins players who allegedly let R.I. use racial slurs around them. He screamed on them. I was actually surprised later to see the white wife. He keeps it 100 about sports and race topics though.


5)Dr. Johnson didn't invent the wheel. For MY relatives, I want them to marry and have children with BLACK people..and it's the most natural thing to think so. If they choose not to, I would hardly consider them traitors though.
1) I must admit that I've never seen him talk about his family immediate family, so please provide the video(s) that allow you to comfortably deduce the dynamics of his family and render an informed opinion about them

2)So a "good" role model for Black boys are only those who live in the same household?

3)Again, I don't know his family dynamics, but I'm willing to follow your logic...Umar's failed relationship exposes his hypocrisy? The notion of "we tried and it didn't work" out shouldn't be applied to Umar's relationship failures because he talmbowt how to effectively counter White supremacy via Black family?

4)Despite being a football player, he chose to share his opinion. He didn't have to, like most football players. So he's not trying to just portray himself as a football player. Especially when the show covers topics not sport related

5)I never said he invented the wheel, just that he has examples of how and why his ideology works. And why a nonchalant approach to stringently following the tenets of the ideology is the most effective way to achieve the goal; that a nonchalant attitude would never be able to do
 

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1) I must admit that I've never seen him talk about his family immediate family, so please provide the video(s) that allow you to comfortably deduce the dynamics of his family and render an informed opinion about them

2)So a "good" role model for Black boys are only those who live in the same household?

3)Again, I don't know his family dynamics, but I'm willing to follow your logic...Umar's failed relationship exposes his hypocrisy? The notion of "we tried and it didn't work" out shouldn't be applied to Umar's relationship failures because he talmbowt how to effectively counter White supremacy via Black family?

4)Despite being a football player, he chose to share his opinion. He didn't have to, like most football players. So he's not trying to just portray himself as a football player. Especially when the show covers topics not sport related

5)I never said he invented the wheel, just that he has examples of how and why his ideology works. And why a nonchalant approach to stringently following the tenets of the ideology is the most effective way to achieve the goal; that a nonchalant attitude would never be able to do

1)I will bookmark this page and find the videos where he mentioned the existence of his children and the existence of their mothers. Believe it was a BC video after the stripper story. I will eventually find it and post it though.

2)Even Umar would say that his situation is not the ideal one. He's a very well educated man. He's trained in field that can help young men, HOWEVER he's made a series of unwise life choices. These choices contradict his points about strong Black families. He made the choice to create children with women that he wasn't married to. If there's anything that's fractured the Black family unit, it's people deciding to do this.

3) see number 2.

4) He's an intelligent adult. He speaks about the topics for the show. Colin Kap.'s decision to kneel during the anthem has brought a lot of social issues to the forefront of sports. Shannon shares HIS opinion about the topics. He's on the show because he has credibility about sports topics. When the topic is sports, he speaks. When the topic shifts to something else, an an intelligent adult....he speaks about those topics. Are you trying to imply that because he speaks about certain things that he's trying to be something else ?

5) These tweets are him trying to ride the Shannon Sharpe wave. Again, I was surprised to see SS's wife but there is/was no reason for Umar to call him out.Perhaps pandering to his lecture tour audience who are probably high percentage of Black women. Rich Black athlete with white wife is a good punching bag for Umar to pander to that group.
 

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This is the biggest contradiction. You lecture about the Black FAMILY, yet you're not married to the mother(s) of your children, nor do you live in the household with them.

To me that's a bigger red flag than what he's calling Shannon Sharpe out for. Shannon never claimed to be anything other than a football player and show host.


I've been saying for a minute now any Black man who is a womanizer yet takes a hardline stance against other Black men for marrying out, is a hypocrite and lacks credibility on subjects such as Black families.
 
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1)I will bookmark this page and find the videos where he mentioned the existence of his children and the existence of their mothers. Believe it was a BC video after the stripper story. I will eventually find it and post it though.

2)Even Umar would say that his situation is not the ideal one. He's a very well educated man. He's trained in field that can help young men, HOWEVER he's made a series of unwise life choices. These choices contradict his points about strong Black families. He made the choice to create children with women that he wasn't married to. If there's anything that's fractured the Black family unit, it's people deciding to do this.

3) see number 2.

4) He's an intelligent adult. He speaks about the topics for the show. Colin Kap.'s decision to kneel during the anthem has brought a lot of social issues to the forefront of sports. Shannon shares HIS opinion about the topics. He's on the show because he has credibility about sports topics. When the topic is sports, he speaks. When the topic shifts to something else, an an intelligent adult....he speaks about those topics. Are you trying to imply that because he speaks about certain things that he's trying to be something else ?

5) These tweets are him trying to ride the Shannon Sharpe wave. Again, I was surprised to see SS's wife but there is/was no reason for Umar to call him out.Perhaps pandering to his lecture tour audience who are probably high percentage of Black women. Rich Black athlete with white wife is a good punching bag for Umar to pander to that group.

1) Understood. So until then, are you able to refrain from using examples that you cannot prove moving forward whether in this discussion or other Umar topics?

2)OK, but I'm asking whether a "good" role model for Black boys are only those who live in the same household?

3) again. I don't know his family dynamics and you haven't provided the proof yet to suggest that your opinions are based on facts. We have already seen in most Umar threads how common acts are deemed unacceptable, when done by Umar, but not the average joe. So that's why I ask, the notion of "we tried and it didn't work out" shouldn't be applied to Umar's relationship failures, but is commonly applied to others' relationship failure, because he talmbowt how to effectively counter White supremacy via Black family?

4)No, I'm addressing your original point "Shannon Sharpe doesn't promote himself as anything other than a football player and show host." This is not true, which is why he's getting a lot of respect and admiration, rightfully so.

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it's funny to say that he's pandering, while having "Black people" tell him that open love doesn't undermine Black empowerment, despite we all knowing that he has examples that proves his ideology is correct

Even before Roland Martin show, Umar has spoken about the importance of Black marriages and unions, regardless of what you've done for Black folks. So he is constantly given examples via social media and especially at his lectures, I certainly witnessed it, of Black folks doing good things for Black people, while not marrying one. So why would you assume it's just a random critique for him to ride Shannon's wave, and not yet another example given to him to see how consistent he is about his views?
 

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the coli has gone from umar, polight, tariq to yvette carnell

all these snake oil salesman and charlatans :scust
 
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To be fair I don't know if he is or not, but it still says something when you're making babies with Black women without wifing yet dikk monitoring the next man. His credibility on that subject is questionable with his background.
How many kids does he have? and why didn't it work out between him and these women?
 

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No matter how good you are people wil bring you down


Jesus is the perfect example of this
Try to give humanity help and you get chewed up and spit out
 

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How many kids does he have? and why didn't it work out between him and these women?


I can only go off of thread, but at least two, each by a different woman. Why it didn't work out is neither here nor there in the context of this discussion. The fact is he's got two baby moms and his calling out other folks for who they marry.
 
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I can only go off of thread, but at least two, each by a different woman. Why it didn't work out is neither here nor there in the context of this discussion. The fact is he's got two baby moms and his calling out other folks for who they marry.
No you don't have to go off the the thread, you have access to the innanet. Why not make sure that you are well informed before making disparaging and suggestive statements? Same request is made of media when covering Black folks, but suddenly now it doesn't apply because yall don't like Umar

The context of these discussions concludes only one thing, too many Black people ain't about that pro-Black life, despite all the talk of wanting to defeat white supremacy

Instead of speculating about his personal life, how about providing evidence to prove that his ideology isn't successful. When will any of you Umar critics provide examples that shows a prospering community or group that's not implementing a variation of Umar's ideology. You can't, thus why the darts being flung at his personal life
 
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