UGANDA..THE RETURN (Indian related)

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Remember though even the black Africans didnt start from the same point Alot of the wealthy black elite are also sitting on colonial wealth from the British..the indians grew their wealth rapidly because many of them were educated merchants and contractors so they founded industries and retail operations since they had the skills while most of the wealthier africans were wrangling over consolidating political power ..not to say there hasnt been corruption by indian africans but to be honest most of the corruption is done by the black African plutocrats.

Its disingenuous to say that the indians who have been running industries and supermarket chains are harming the economy they depend on somehow when the bourgeois Black Africans are the ones with the political power ..so who is really behind the corruption and nepotism

The Black African cabinet minister who appoints his incompetent thieving family members to key administrative positions

Or the Indian Industrial tyc00n who appoints his family to key positions in his own company

you decide

I'd rather the Black Africans control and squabble over their own industries and corruption, just as the Indians and cacs and Chinese do theirs. In China and India, Indians and Chinese controlling their businesses and resources is a non-issue. It's ENFORCED, both officially and unofficially.

The Indians do not respect African rights or peoplehood, just like the cacs don't. Indians should not be a part of Africa or African commerce except as trade and business partners, period.

Contrary to what that Indian written-Wikipedia said, Idi Amin as right. Indians are greedy, corrupt colonialist types. They don't care anything about blacks and will gladly do what the British did. Indians arrived under British colonialism and should have left when the British did. Let no Indian grow rich on the backs of blacks.
 
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I have mixed feelings about this... They have to change their business practices in Africa. Unlike the past nepotism and corruption should not be tolerated. Also Indian citizens in African countries should start investing back into these countries and show some sort of national pride.

I saw a list of Kenyan top earners off the stock Market and it is 50% Indian yet they are not even that much in terms of population. A lot of them are also rich off holdings from generations going back to colonialism. The top earner sitting on mineral wealth that should belong to the country.

Sorry Coli Indians but that's how I see it.

No need to apologize, I think that's fair.

These other clowns in this thread though :heh:
 

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No need to apologize, I think that's fair.

These other clowns in this thread though :heh:

:stopitslime:

That dude is entitled to his own opinion but most black people are going to say what everyone said in this thread. I don't see why they're wrong.

Do you have a relevant response to their concerns, hindi?
 

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That dude is entitled to his own opinion but most black people in general are going to say what everyone said in this thread.

Do you have a relevant response to their concerns, hindi? What seperates a hindi from a chinaman from a cac in this regard?

hindi? :skip:

I don't care if Africans choose to expel Indians from their countries or whatever, I just like calling out the double standards. If Africans ever became an economically powerful minority in India and India chose to expel them and/or confiscate their resources you'd have a fit so eat a dikk.
 

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My apologies for the slur, I thought you were being supportive of something you weren't. Maybe I was too quick to judge.



Fair enough. I believe Africans and Indians can do business together, although I don't believe any black man will ever become rich in India.

If Africans expelling Indians would lead to Africans taking a step toward taking control over their countries in a real and positive way, I wouldn't blame them for taking those measures...is that really what would happen though? Be honest.

And there are millions of Indians in India who will never become rich, so what?
 

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there isnt any evidence from what i read that they were exploiting anything, all it goes to show is that people that have education and skills will make more money than people who dont, race or geography is irrelevant

what was really happening is that the larger black population lacked skills and education, when the indians left, the black population still lacked skills and education

the black population was still fuked regardless of what happened to indians
 

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If Africans expelling Indians would lead to Africans taking a step toward taking control over their countries in a real and positive way, I wouldn't blame them for taking those measures...is that really what would happen though? Be honest.

I take back my apology. It seems you do support paternalism. African nations that rightly expelled Hindis, Cacs, etc are doing better today than they have ever done in history. So in fact they are thriving in a "real and positive" way, though there is always room for improvement. The common argument for cac evil is that the "blacks were better under slavery/colonialism/etc" than they are now. Your argument is little different and just as false. The same argument can be said of India, where the people were once under the thrall of the British but now are better off than they would have ever been otherwise.

And there are millions of Indians in India who will never become rich, so what?

First, there are virtually no blacks that live in India and those that live there are treated like trash. Second, the fact blacks live outside Africa has no bearing on the fact Africa belongs to Africans, and Idi Amin had every right to boot whomever out. If the Hindis want to boot out Nigerians, so be it.
 

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there isnt any evidence from what i read that they were exploiting anything, all it goes to show is that people that have education and skills will make more money than people who dont, race or geography is irrelevant

what was really happening is that the larger black population lacked skills and education, when the indians left, the black population still lacked skills and education

Well they invaded the land a la the British and exploited the resources, installed corrupt leaders, and lorded over the country a la the British. Skills and education are irrelevant. We are talking about resources, power, politics, ethnicity, etc. So far as Africa is concerned, the region is developing. All this end-of-the-world talk ignores the GDP and human development terms.
 

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Here's a video about the Siddis--descendants of African slaves brought to India hundreds of years.

 

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I take back my apology. It seems you do support paternalism. African nations that rightly expelled Hindis, Cacs, etc are doing better today than they have ever done in history. So in fact they are thriving in a "real and positive" way, though there is always room for improvement. The common argument for cac evil is that the "blacks were better under slavery/colonialism/etc" than they are now. Your argument is little different and just as false. The same argument can be said of India, where the people were once under the thrall of the British but now are better off than they would have ever been otherwise. The right to self determination and control is inalienable. No Hindi should control shyt in Africa. Everything Idi Amin said about Indians is actually true as such. He told no lies and had every right to kick out the Hindis. Whatever his country achieves now will be their own, for better or worse.

I dont care whether you apologize or not. Comparing Indians being successful in Africa to the British colonizing India is stupid as fukk. Indians aren't inhibiting the self-determination of Africans, they are just self-absorbed and isolated...if you want to criticize them in that aspect, I'll agree. All that other rhetoric you're going on about is just forced outrage.



First, there are virtually no blacks that live in India and those that live there are treated like trash. Second, the fact blacks live outside Africa has no bearing on the fact Africa belongs to Africans and Hindis need to get out if they can't respect that fact.

lower-caste indians are treated like trash. what's your point?
 

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^^Gives you a better sense of how Africans are treated/regarded in India.
 

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hindi? :skip:

I don't care if Africans choose to expel Indians from their countries or whatever, I just like calling out the double standards. If Africans ever became an economically powerful minority in India and India chose to expel them and/or confiscate their resources you'd have a fit so eat a dikk.

India is a cesspool.
 
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