UFC 232 - [12-29-18] - Jon Jones vs Alexander Gustafsson 2, Cris Cyborg vs Amanda Nunes

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Judah
Castillo
Mosley
De la Hoya
Manny
Cotto
Canelo
Hernandez
Maidana
Marquez
Baldomir

Come on now

People love to say that shyt about Floyd but act like these dudes werent champs, best and the best of the division at their times

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Jones vs. Cormier at HW would be a terrible fight. DC would ragdoll him.

DC has ragdolled natural heavyweight fighters that outweigh Jones by 20-30 lbs. If Jones did manage to pull it off, then he would be the undisputed greatest fighter of all time imo.
Cormier will only gas himself tying to grapple with jones
 
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Jones vs. Cormier at HW would be a terrible fight. DC would ragdoll him.

DC has ragdolled natural heavyweight fighters that outweigh Jones by 20-30 lbs. If Jones did manage to pull it off, then he would be the undisputed greatest fighter of all time imo.

If Cormier was capable of outwrestling Jon he would have done it in both of their 2 fights. DC has no answer for Jones frame, reach, and leverage and as a result he can barely get a half-assed takedown, let alone actually hold him down for any extended period of time. It has nothing to due with weight class, DC had maybe the biggest cut of any modern fighter trying to make 205 and outweighed Jon in the cage both times by a significant amount; 15 pounds if not more. Jon rehydrates and weighs in at no more than ~215-7 lbs; he is as natural light heavyweight as they come and still shut down Cormier's wrestling while taking and holding him down for an extended period of time. If he decided to bulk up to 240 to go fight DC at heavyweight the result would be even more lopsided in his favor.

DC's only hope of ever beating Bones is a flash KO and Jones is too good at controlling distance and has too good of a chin for that to ever happen. Let it go y'all :francis:
 

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DC might commit that if Jones beats him for a third time. Not sure he should take the fight. Just do the Brock fight and retire


I agree, I kinda just want him to the Brock fight and just go away.

And I dont mean that in a bad way.... but just live his life

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Damn, Cyborg. Nothing to say about that one. But I don't think she's going to retire like Rousey or Carano. I think she's going to work harder (especially on cleaner, crisper striking) and get her fight game back together. A rematch is inevitable here, and I think Cyborg will work for one. But I DON'T believe it should be automatic.

And I hope Nunes doesn't make the mistake Holly Holm did and jump right back into the ring. Let the other fighters duke it out amongst themselves - Cyborg included - and earn a shot at the belt.

I been meaning to check online about Claressa, is she on pace to be a all time great or on that level?

She won't be touched for years and years. But I'm worried for her - she's fought four times this year alone, including earlier this month. She's 8-0, but six of her fights went to decision. This ain't the amateurs anymore. I'm afraid she'll burn out early if she keeps this pace up.
 
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Nah. Mayweather and Anderson Silva got that on lock (Anderson Silva in his prime).

Jon turned 31 in July

He became champ at 23

He defeated legends in their prime, defeated men who were top contenders in different weight classes( Vitor), defeated them at their own games and beating DC who is the goat HW fighter defeating Bigfoot Silva,Josh Barnett,Frank Mir, and Stipe(who was the first to successfully defend the UFC HW title three times) DC also defeated Anderson Silva, Derrick Lewis,Anthony Johnson twice)

All MMA math leads to Jon being combat God
 

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Damn, Cyborg. Nothing to say about that one. But I don't think she's going to retire like Rousey or Carano. I think she's going to work harder (especially on cleaner, crisper striking) and get her fight game back together. A rematch is inevitable here, and I think Cyborg will work for one. But I DON'T believe it should be automatic.

And I hope Nunes doesn't make the mistake Holly Holm did and jump right back into the ring. Let the other fighters duke it out amongst themselves - Cyborg included - and earn a shot at the belt.
There’s literally nobody at 135 or 145 for nunes

We need the rematch
 
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