FromBillionsCameOne
All Star
I take Lyft all the time. The game changed when I realized it's about the same cost from my house to the store round trip as it is one way.
Uber and Lyft Can't Find Drivers Because Gig Work Sucks
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Don't matter whether its DoorDash, or even UberEats? Food delivery been struggling just like people delivery. Less money going around these days so not many people ordering food. I have both apps on my phone and just turn them on at the house to see if anything pops up cuz it be dead most of the days and the same thing is said on all the reddit and FB groups. Problem with the Uber for people is that not only are you risking your health with a stranger in the car, but Uber keeping more on the top, especially now that it went public and needs to keep money to impress its shareholders and line the CEO pocket. A companies payroll is its most controlled expense so the less it pays its workers, the more that appears on the quarterly financial statements to show to its shareholders. Not to mention the guy who got killed by the 2 girls up in like the DMV area not long ago and other cases fatal or nonfatal. Bring a motherfukker who you don't even know if they'll act crazy in your car? Hell nah. So thats why people are reluctant to do it.
Yaboysix
That nikka
Damn! Didn't even get a chance to use one...
I remember hearing a reasonable reason for this. One African driver told me it's because Hispanic and black people lived outside if Manhattan, so they'd have to go to like Brooklyn then drive back. They never want to do that they said.
That's not really reasonable. If they didn't want to go that far they should be advertising that they are only driving around a certain radius. But of course no one thinks of this.
Spliff
Godzilla got busy.
LA?
CourtesyFlush
Superstar
Are cabs still a huge thing in NYC? Like do you still see a yellow blur of taxi cars everywhere? Or are they mostly gone? I haven't been there in a good decade and never pondered this till now
SNYC
Black American in NYC (yes, we exist 😲)
Uber Reaches Deal to List All New York City Taxis on Its App
Company that vowed to disrupt the U.S. taxi industry is now betting that traditional taxis will fuel its next wave of growth
Uber Technologies Inc. is becoming friends with a former foe.
The company has reached an agreement to list all New York City taxis on its app, an alliance that could ease the ride-hailing giant’s driver shortage and temper high fares while directing more business to cabdrivers, whose livelihoods were affected by the emergence of car-sharing apps and the pandemic.
While Uber has formed partnerships with some taxi operators overseas, and riders in several U.S. cities can use its app to book taxis if cabdrivers choose to be listed there, the New York City alliance is its first citywide partnership in the U.S. New York, one of Uber’s most lucrative markets, has been a battlefield for the company and the city’s iconic yellow taxis for years.
“It’s bigger and bolder than anything we’ve done,” said Andrew Macdonald, Uber’s global mobility chief. The company expects to launch the offering to riders later this spring.
Rest of story..
WSJ News Exclusive | Uber Reaches Deal to List All New York City Taxis on Its App
Company that vowed to disrupt the U.S. taxi industry is now betting that traditional taxis will fuel its next wave of growth
Uber Technologies Inc. is becoming friends with a former foe.
The company has reached an agreement to list all New York City taxis on its app, an alliance that could ease the ride-hailing giant’s driver shortage and temper high fares while directing more business to cabdrivers, whose livelihoods were affected by the emergence of car-sharing apps and the pandemic.
While Uber has formed partnerships with some taxi operators overseas, and riders in several U.S. cities can use its app to book taxis if cabdrivers choose to be listed there, the New York City alliance is its first citywide partnership in the U.S. New York, one of Uber’s most lucrative markets, has been a battlefield for the company and the city’s iconic yellow taxis for years.
“It’s bigger and bolder than anything we’ve done,” said Andrew Macdonald, Uber’s global mobility chief. The company expects to launch the offering to riders later this spring.
Rest of story..
WSJ News Exclusive | Uber Reaches Deal to List All New York City Taxis on Its App
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It help to form opinions based off something more substantial than anecdotal stories from your friends. That's why we do read the articles.
Uber and Lyft Can’t Find Drivers Because Gig Work Sucks
That doesn't include health insurance, right?
And he has to take self-employment tax out of that?
And what are the annual expenses to his car? (not just gas but all the extra maintenance from all the stop-and-start city traffic miles he's putting on it)
No retirement account.
No sick leave, vacation, holidays or paid leave if something goes down.
Has to work a job where he's literally sitting on his ass sitting in traffic all day, but then has to stress every single potential customer on top of that.
And he has no chance for career advancement, promotion, etc. In fact if Uber decides to cut rates he basically gets demoted for doing the same job. They can keep fukking around with policies and rates and he has no protection even if it slices his paycheck in half. And if there's an economic downturn like with Covid he has even less security than the average person does - he doesn't even have to wait to be laid off, he just plain doesn't get work the moment people stop riding.
People talk about up-front cash and are ignoring all the costs and lack of benefits that come along with that.
Many drivers are facing a choice between a shytty uber situation and no income at all... for them all that healthcare, work stress, advancement etc. is never factored in.
IMO this isnt seen as *that type of job*
My question in these discussions, is what are we going to do for the people who are harmed by Uber regulation...
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
I've been saying for weeks now that gig workers are getting screwed with the high gas prices. Most of these gig apps didn't up their payouts to account for it (and on some of the apps, the payout went down). The rare times they get any sort of gas adjustment it's like 10 cents per ride or delivery, which is not nearly enough to offset the gas price increase.
Many more than would otherwise because it puts all sorts of people with real jobs out of business.
Same issue going on here that has been happening with industries across the board.
Step 1: Locate a worker population desperate enough to temporarily accept a shytty situation that doesn't actually provide a path forward in life (teenagers, people who need extra income on the side, migrant workers, relocating into much poorer nations, etc.).
Step 2: Entice those workers by starting them off in a decent situation, unsustainably subsidizing the gig with a large capital base created from venture capital or pre-existing market share elsewhere.
Step 3: Use the combination of scale, capital subsidization, and that temp worker base to outcompete competitors offering real jobs, increasing your market share and forcing everyone else out of work.
Step 4: As your power grows but your capital base shrinks, start squeezing your workers, giving them lower pay and worse working conditions to accomplish the same thing. You have more leverage to do this than before because you've eliminated the other options and are now hiring on people shouldn't be so desperate - primary wage earners - but who are forced to accept the desperate situations due to what you've done.
Step 5: Tell the American people that you're the only one providing jobs and it's practically a public service.
This process is so engrained into American capitalism that we TOLD y'all it was going to happen the moment Uber etc. started doing their thing. And now folk acting like it's a surprise.