Tyrese and The Rock beefing again: Tyrese sends shots

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The Scorpion King? So so box office.
The Rundown? Mega flop.
Walking Tall? Mega flop.
Doom? Mega flop.
Gridiron Gang? Good movie with a good message. Still a flop :mjgrin:
The Game Plan? A success....finally.
Tooth Fairy? Barely broke even.
Faster? Mega flop.
Race to Witch Mountain? Flop.
Snitch? Barely broke even. Really a flop.


Feel free to check all those box office numbers if you want to verify :mjgrin:


Every time he tried to headline a movie by himself (The Rundown, Snitch, Faster and Walking Tall), them shyts flopped harder than muthafukker.

Almost all his movies prior to FF flopped, with the exception of Disney movies like The Game Plan.

He still uses the strategy now in 2017....attaching himself to big brands/series which is much more easier than breaking new original movies with your own star power. GI Joe. Journey to the Center of the Earth. Moana. Anything Kevin Hart related. Fast and the Furious. Baywatch. Jumanji. All are existing movie series or Disney or Kevin Hart which are layups at the box office. San Andreas was his first hit that showed his star power/box office draw but that came after FF raised his profile.

Fast Five saved HIS career. Not the other way around.

If he was responsible for Fast and Furious turning into a billion dollar brand, you have to logically explain why he had 10 years of flops. Also, if a movie made almost $400 million on a $85 million dollar budget before you got involved, you didn't save anything :scust: You attached yourself to a speeding rocket.

Rock helped the series. VIn diesel would tell you himself. His involvement gave it some new life. Hes not the ONLY reason though. Its a joint effort. Also, he was not a c list movie star prior to the series. Hes had an ok career with some bombs but he was NOT some c list actor prior to Fast 5. Yall forget he was breaking in and came from pro fukking wrestling. Thats been the argument in here.

Also, there was no reason to discredit the succesful or good films he was in because they were done post fast five, they were disney movies, they were Kevin hart related etc. If its a hit, its a hit. Stop deflecting. It still counts.

Fast Five + a return to wrestling helped propel his career. No other way around it.
 
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In business you have more leverage when you bargain together, hence the Friends cast all getting paid together, where as Hawaii 5 -0 the two white guys getting producers credits and points and way more than the other 2 asian co-stars.

Fast crew Walker, Tyrese, Disel, Rodriguez, and Brewer pretty much all bargained together from what I remember

You're wrong about everything I've ever seen you post on this site
 

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:mjlol: niccas acting like the Rock is a scrub. Dude has a successful series on HBO as we speak.

If Hollywood decides that a Hobbs movie is worth making, let that man go make his movie. The box office will let them know if it was a smart move or not. The Rock doesn't owe the likes of Tyrese and that horrible ass actor Vin Diesel any loyalty.
 

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damn ya'll still arguing this?
man fukk tyrese dude is a cancer to everything he touches, fake ass wanna be jamie foxx
don't come to social media like a female go meet that man face to face if you that serious
 

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The Scorpion King? So so box office.
The Rundown? Mega flop.
Walking Tall? Mega flop.
Doom? Mega flop.
Gridiron Gang? Good movie with a good message. Still a flop :mjgrin:
The Game Plan? A success....finally.
Tooth Fairy? Barely broke even.
Faster? Mega flop.
Race to Witch Mountain? Flop.
Snitch? Barely broke even. Really a flop.


Feel free to check all those box office numbers if you want to verify :mjgrin:


Every time he tried to headline a movie by himself (The Rundown, Snitch, Faster and Walking Tall), them shyts flopped harder than muthafukker.

Almost all his movies prior to FF flopped, with the exception of Disney movies like The Game Plan.

He still uses the strategy now in 2017....attaching himself to big brands/series which is much more easier than breaking new original movies with your own star power. GI Joe. Journey to the Center of the Earth. Moana. Anything Kevin Hart related. Fast and the Furious. Baywatch. Jumanji. All are existing movie series or Disney or Kevin Hart which are layups at the box office. San Andreas was his first hit that showed his star power/box office draw but that came after FF raised his profile.

Fast Five saved HIS career. Not the other way around.

If he was responsible for Fast and Furious turning into a billion dollar brand, you have to logically explain why he had 10 years of flops. Also, if a movie made almost $400 million on a $85 million dollar budget before you got involved, you didn't save anything :scust: You attached yourself to a speeding rocket.
Nikka was arguing with critics about baywatch
 

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When it comes to Fast and Furious, yes. Yes he is.

The same way Will Smith is with Bad Boys.
The same way Ice Cube is with Friday.
The same way Tom Cruise is with Mission Impossible.
The same way Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan were with Rush Hour.
The same way Lethal Weapon was Danny Glover and Mel Gibson's shyt.
The same way Die Hard was Bruce Willis' shyt.
The same way Rocky was Stallone's shyt.

Why would anyone that worked on any of these OG films let a new actor come in and have more say than the OG actors that made those franchises. Are you even comprehending what you're writing? :rudy:

You talking about loyalty when some new cat is conspiring with the studio to steal a movie series away from you.

Tyrese and Luda are OG cast too. Way more than the Rock is. They came on in 2003.

You sounding like a dikkrider to be honest. Rock the best part? FOH. Those movies made almost a billion dollars collectively without Rock. The Rock didn't turn the franchise into a billion dollar brand. Switching to an James Bond/Ocean's 11 style, bringing in multiple actors (not just the Rock), filming in dope locations and making the cast diverse did that. If Rock had the star power like that, his career wouldn't have been so garbage from 1999 to 2010. But no....he was starring in The Gridiron Gang :rudy:

And let me stop you right there. If the Rock wasn't a part of Fast 5, Fast 6 and Fast 7, nikkas would've still went to go see those movies :rudy: Those movies wouldve continued on :rudy: But if Vin Diesel, Paul Walker and the rest of the OG cast weren't a part of the last five movies, the series would've died.


You post doesn't make much sense bruh. At all.

First of all, NO PERSON is at the beck and call of another man. F&F Is Vin Diesel's franchise but he does not control a Hobbs spin off. No amount of "but Vin came first!" will change that.


What Tyrese is doing is evidence because he has no control over either franchise or what any of the individuals do personally.

You sound like a person that does not understand business. There is absolutely nothing Tyrese is doing that is business-like. Rock is at his own leisure to make his own deals as he sees fit. Tyrese is attempting to interject himself into something he has no say and no control in, its not his place. Tyrese seems more about protecting his own bottom line than anything. Rock is the biggest star of the entire franchise, that is not debatable. The EVERY movie with The Rock did better than EVERY movie without The Rock, he is a bottom line difference make, this is not debatable.

The fact is, The Rock is such a huge part of the boom of the series is that he is most likely getting his own francise because of it. You claims of Rock not being a difference maker aren't logical and sound more emotional than anything. I don't know why you are dikkriding Vin Diesel so much but if Vin really got issues with The Rock like is reported, then Rock doing his own movie is the best option for all parties involved.
 
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