Tyrese and The Rock beefing again: Tyrese sends shots

[EmpressKali]

Tyrese should get his emotional ass off Instagram.

Black women were trying to tell him but he didnt listen.

 

[Beer Drinker]

I mean Tyrese really need to be mad at the writers and director.

Why would you have Hobbs/Statham (magically a good guy mind you) have great chemistry and the best action in the movie then get tight cause people want that spinoff?

Was that not what they were going for??

Damn right Rock gonna capitalize off that. Who wouldn't?

 

[Booker T Garvey]

Lol@all these homos angry cause Rock can turn shyt like The Game Plan into $100 mili. Find me a Tyrese or Vin Diesel franchise that doesn' have the Rock playing savior on it. Lol. Doesn't exist.

I roasted that movie when it came out b/c I wanted the rock to do action shyt at the time; but like you said they made that movie for pennies (by hollywood standards) and out came a 100 million dollar film

audiences could care less about that shyt, but those bean counters in hollywood saw a star. these are the things that make you a bankable leading man out there

this has got to be in the top 10 most ridiculous discussions I've ever seen on the coli

fast and furious is one of the few franchises out there not named star wars that's routinely competing with Marvel movies in box office receipts

and let some of these dudes tell it, THE ROCK played no part in that whatsoever. that shyt was gonna happen regardless.

 

[Bruce LeRoy]

The last vin diesel film was xxx 3. It made 346 Million.

Vin has launched 3 different original franchises. How many has rock? What's out next? Jumanji? Yet another franchise he didn't start.

You know you're in your feelings when you have to big up a children's films success. But in case you were wondering the pacifier made 198 million for vin.

Let's also not forget guardians of the galaxy.

If rock can turn anything to gold why does his film career before the fast franchise have so many flops? Why couldn't he make rundown a success?faster?snitch? Doom? Walking tall? Empire State?

I'll let you tell it though.

XxX 3 bombed in the US tho.. it only made 40 mill here. Baywatch out grossed it here by almost 20 mill.. amd if we're using international.box office figure's Baywatch isn't a flop either...

The other franchise Vin was in (the Riddikk films) were moderate successes at best...

Rocks box office tracking is just more consistent then Vin's is. You are nitpicking and you conviently left out Babylon AD, Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, Find Me Guilty, The Last Witch Hunter, Knockaround Guys and A Man Apart which all were complete box office bombs that lost studios money.

The only true complete financial bombs Rock has are Doom and Southland Tales..

The Rock did not save or revive the FF franchise...but his character definely elevated those movies as Hobbs main return and expansion in the franchise is based around the fanfare he garnered from Fast Five.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

XxX 3 bombed in the US tho.. it only made 40 mill here. Baywatch out grossed it here by almost 20 mill.. amd if we're using international.box office figure's Baywatch isn't a flop either...

The other franchise Vin was in (the Riddikk films) were moderate successes at best...

Rocks box office tracking is just more consistent then Vin's is. You are nitpicking and you conviently left out Babylon AD, Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk, Find Me Guilty, The Last Witch Hunter, Knockaround Guys and A Man Apart which all were complete box office bombs that lost studios money.

The only true complete financial bombs Rock has are Doom and Southland Tales..

The Rock did not save or revive the FF franchise...but his character definely elevated those movies as Hobbs main return and expansion in the franchise is based around the fanfare he garnered from Fast Five.

This is a straight up lie. Every film I listed as a flop was a financial bomb for the rock. I'd love to see your argument that the rundown wasn't a complete financial bomb for example,not to mention all the others.

And you seem to have missed the point of my posts entirely.


Rocks career before fast and furious and after is night and day.

The franchise helped his career. His career before it was a mine field of bombs. It's not the other way around where when rock joined and was some on fire commodity that elevated the series.

He's now hiding behind safe bets and attaching himself to franchises.

The claims rock made the fast franchise go is laughable.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Talk your shyt Ty

Nikka sounds like a disgruntled girlfriend 'you're not responding to messages'

Does he not get that The Rock is now the biggest actor in the world?

And that, to the world, he's the black guy from Fast & Furious..?

He was building his own company, Voltron it was called I think. Why not use the clout of the Fast series to BUILD something.

As opposed to waiting for The Rock to help.

Yes I know he should have helped him, but this game is not always about friendship.

And I'm black, keep the cac or c00n shyt to yourself. I genuinely belief that this is a bad look for Tyrese. We want him to succeed, but this is not the way.

 

[James Dean]

This is a straight up lie. Every film I listed as a flop was a financial bomb for the rock. I'd love to see your argument that the rundown wasn't a complete financial bomb for example,not to mention all the others.

And you seem to have missed the point of my posts entirely.


Rocks career before fast and furious and after is night and day.

The franchise helped his career. His career before it was a mine field of bombs. It's not the other way around where when rock joined and was some on fire commodity that elevated the series.

He's now hiding behind safe bets and attaching himself to franchises.

The claims rock made the fast franchise go is laughable.

You guys are seriously over
exaggerating. Sure he is bigger star now And is in a much better spot now but he wasn't struggling pre Fast 5.

Rock had like 4 duds.

Rundown missed the mark by 5 million
Doom missed the mark by 5 million
Southland Tales tanked
Faster missed its mark by 12 mil

All his other films were successful or made its bank. (Be Cool and Get Smart he played in but was not a lead star. They did well though)

Of course, Whether they were critically acclaimed or if people liked those films is all subjective.

Since Fast 5, Baywatch was the biggest failure and even then it still made its banked albeit it had a tough time with it.

Again, The guy was a decent action/comedy star. Still is. No doubt fast 5 (and his work in the movie) helped his career, as did his return to wrestling but he was not doing as bad as people are trying to push in here. Facts are Rock helped breathe new life into the series. Even Vinny boy would admit that. The argument that Rock is more consistent than Vin is not off in the slightest.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

You guys are seriously over
exaggerating. Sure he is bigger star now And is in a much better spot now but he wasn't struggling pre Fast 5.

Rock had like 4 duds.

Rundown missed the mark by 5 million
Doom missed the mark by 5 million
Southland Tales tanked
Faster missed its mark by 12 mil

All his other films were successful or made its bank. (Be Cool and Get Smart he played in but was not a lead star. They did well though)

Of course, Whether they were critically acclaimed or if people liked those films is all subjective.

Since Fast 5, Baywatch was the biggest failure and even then it still made its banked albeit it had a tough time with it.

Again, The guy was a decent action/comedy star. Still is. No doubt fast 5 (and his work in the movie) helped his career, as did his return to wrestling but he was not doing as bad as people are trying to push in here. Facts are Rock helped breathe new life into the series. Even Vinny boy would admit that. The argument that Rock is more consistent than Vin is not off in the slightest.

I don't think you guys understand how box office works.


Rundown didn't "miss the mark" by 5 million.


Theatres domestically take half of a films gross. Worldwide they take anywhere from 50-70% of the take.


The production budget doesn't include marketing.


Rundown at best brought the studio 30-40 million,and cost them $85 million + marketing budget.

Faster,snitch etc all lost money. Films need to make around 2-3x their budget to break even,depending on how much of a marketing budget they had.

Nobody is exaggerating rocks failures before the fast franchise. They speak for themselves.

 

[James Dean]

I don't think you guys understand how box office works.


Rundown didn't "miss the mark" by 5 million.


Theatres domestically take half of a films gross. Worldwide they take anywhere from 50-70% of the take.


The production budget doesn't include marketing.


Rundown at best brought the studio 30-40 million,and cost them $85 million + marketing budget.

Faster,snitch etc all lost money. Films need to make around 2-3x their budget to break even,depending on how much of a marketing budget they had.

Nobody is exaggerating rocks failures before the fast franchise. They speak for themselves.

Yeah you are. Already mentioned that Rundown and Faster etc were apart of his failures. Crunch numbers all you want to make specifics. overall its not making up some sort of mass failure like you keep trying to push.

If anything, Rock doing that decent in his early run was a lot better than people give him credit for. being that he started out as an actor from the world of pro wrestling. So The combinations of Fast 5, return to wrestling, and his work changed things.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

This is a straight up lie. Every film I listed as a flop was a financial bomb for the rock. I'd love to see your argument that the rundown wasn't a complete financial bomb for example,not to mention all the others.

And you seem to have missed the point of my posts entirely.


Rocks career before fast and furious and after is night and day.

The franchise helped his career. His career before it was a mine field of bombs. It's not the other way around where when rock joined and was some on fire commodity that elevated the series.

He's now hiding behind safe bets and attaching himself to franchises.

The claims rock made the fast franchise go is laughable.

Yeah i cant remember any universally praised Rock movies

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

Yeah you are. Already mentioned that Rundown and Faster etc were apart of his failures. Crunch numbers all you want to make specifics. overall its not making up some sort of mass failure like you keep trying to push.

If anything, Rock doing that decent in his early run was a lot better than people give him credit for. being that he started out as an actor from the world of pro wrestling. So The combinations of Fast 5, return to wrestling, and his work changed things.

You're staring facts in the face and then trying to ignore them or make excuses.

 

[James Dean]

You're staring facts in the face and then trying to ignore them or make excuses.

Not at all. I even agreed to some of the same type of failures Rock had. You just dug up more numbers to back it up. Cool for you. I just dont agree that he was so far of a failure in his early days as people are tying to push in here. Not ignoring anything.

 

[MalikX]

The Scorpion King? So so box office.
The Rundown? Mega flop.
Walking Tall? Mega flop.
Doom? Mega flop.
Gridiron Gang? Good movie with a good message. Still a flop
The Game Plan? A success....finally.
Tooth Fairy? Barely broke even.
Faster? Mega flop.
Race to Witch Mountain? Flop.
Snitch? Barely broke even. Really a flop.


Feel free to check all those box office numbers if you want to verify


Every time he tried to headline a movie by himself (The Rundown, Snitch, Faster and Walking Tall), them shyts flopped harder than muthafukker.

Almost all his movies prior to FF flopped, with the exception of Disney movies like The Game Plan.

He still uses the strategy now in 2017....attaching himself to big brands/series which is much more easier than breaking new original movies with your own star power. GI Joe. Journey to the Center of the Earth. Moana. Anything Kevin Hart related. Fast and the Furious. Baywatch. Jumanji. All are existing movie series or Disney or Kevin Hart which are layups at the box office. San Andreas was his first hit that showed his star power/box office draw but that came after FF raised his profile.

Fast Five saved HIS career. Not the other way around.

If he was responsible for Fast and Furious turning into a billion dollar brand, you have to logically explain why he had 10 years of flops. Also, if a movie made almost $400 million on a $85 million dollar budget before you got involved, you didn't save anything You attached yourself to a speeding rocket.

 

[Shang Tsung]

Tyrese is mad his character has turned into the clown of the group while the rock is getting his own spinoff. I can understand his anger

 

[Real]

Rock has all these flops, yet hes the sevond highest paid actor.


Coli logic im going to bed