Two Titles - UFC 187: Johnson vs Cormier & Weidman vs Belfort Thread [May 23]

[FaTaL]

Chris is making a mental mistake by being concerned about Vitor's test levels. If he goes into the fight wanting to hurt Vitor instead of worrying about winning he's going to get his head taken off.

get in a fist fight with vitor and hes getting knocked out

 

[jackswstd]

Weidman just cemented why I don't like him with that dumb shyt he said. For the sake of argument let's say he's right. How did he find out about it, and if in fact the UFC knows it too it's gonna bring more bad publicity they really don't need.

 

[THEREALBRAND]

Here's the pertinent science regarding these tests:

Normal reference levels for testosterone in urine is about 60ng/mL, based on a published reference range of 9.7ng/mL to 109.7mg/mL (mean average 61.3) for T in urine. Range of 3.7 to 111.0ng/mL (45.8 mean) for epi. The caveat being those numbers seem to be derived from ug/24 hour levels and an assumption of 1l of urine per day.

This means that without baseline measurements, and without knowing the labs reference values, any definitive conclusion about these results would be completely speculative.

Blood test results are typically much more accurate and useful for measuring T levels and drawing any conclusions about absolute levels (as opposed to just a T:E ratio) from a urine test is shaky science at best.

In short, Vitor's results didn't come back with strangely high testosterone levels or T:E ratios.

The change in his testosterone between tests could be easily explained by a number of factors (see above). In fact, if anything they seem to be low. Weidman's numbers are even lower, however, which is strange, but not suggestive of any wrongdoing whatsoever. All of that being said, be very wary of anyone trying to draw strong conclusions from these results, as there is much missing information and even with perfect information, single urine tests are notoriously unreliable indicators of absolute levels of testosterone etc. Which is why blood samples are typically used in medicine instead.

Anybody that's using those results against Vitor either has an ulterior motive or needs to re-take high school biology.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/2...g-test-peds-trt-testosterone-science-analysis

 

[Kenny West]

Page is an exciting and dynamic WW prospect. But KOing the best MW in the world?

I didn't say he'd KO Jacare

Spoiler

aight ill chill

 

[puppetmaster]

Weidman just cemented why I don't like him with that dumb shyt he said. For the sake of argument let's say he's right. How did he find out about it, and if in fact the UFC knows it too it's gonna bring more bad publicity they really don't need.

right, he should have just put him over and said "he's a legend of the sport blah blah blah" then go out and "smash him" as he feels he's going to, because it would take the spotlight off a "cheater" and onto "clean" fighters

bringing all this attention to "Vitor cheating" is just gonna add more asterisks to his current run as he's still trying to shake the off "i'm feasting on old guard legends to build my name" rep in the eyes of a LOT of hardcores.

 

[The Infamous]

Weigh-in vs Rockhold:

Today's weigh-in:

 

[TheLukieBaby]

me & @Jutt did a podcast for this card check it out if you are into that stuff

 

[The ADD]

Weigh-in vs Rockhold:

Today's weigh-in:

 

[The Infamous]

 

[Propaganda]

wow after checking out the whole thing, i didn't realize how sick this card looks, even after the replacements.

and also, those gifs remind me that it never ceases to amaze me how different most of these guys look in contrast from weigh-in to fight day. i mean, i've seen it a million times but still...that shyt is crazy.

i hope that wasn't some bullshyt and he carries that through...uriah hall fighting angry, fighting to actually kick ass...yeah, i wanna see that..

 

[Death6six6]

WAR VITOR, MOTHERfukk CRIEDMAN, and lets do this Rumble!!!! 2 New Champs!!! fukk Criedman Regardless!!!

 

[123456789]

The weigh-in got me pumped. I now got rumble winning a lopsided decision, but the co-main might be the hottest in terms of crowd reaction. I think some thing special is gonna happen in the hall-natal fight.i'm just not sure what.

 

[The ADD]

Thinking about dropping the cash on the PPV

 

[The ADD]

Interesting to see how much Jon got into DC's head. He mentioned on a few Embedded episodes and was even watching the fight yesterday.

 

[Roman Brady]

Interesting to see how much Jon got into DC's head. He mentioned on a few Embedded episodes and was even watching the fight yesterday.

Don't know what it is but since that fight I haven't seen DC the same since. I really hope AJ wins in brutal fashion