Twitter Hip-Hop Head Asks A Question ⁉️: Are rappers from the 80s and 90s selling out the culture? (Thoughts??????)

[DontEemTry]

Won't happen. Herc HIMSELF, OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, admitted none of it came from toasting or JA culture. He came here at 12, he wasn't THAT Jamaican to begin with, and admitted he was an outcast and switched up to what FBAs were doing. The music, dress, all of it. In a book from the 80s. He also ddn't create any elements. He also admitted DJ Flowers and Disco King Mario (the REAL father of Hip-Hop) predated him. His whole story is embellished at best.

Alright cool, so you don't want Herc speakin on it because these days his story is kinda different. So then who would you say is qualified to speak on it that ISN'T speaking on it?

 

[TripleAgent]

Alright cool, so you don't want Herc speakin on it because these days his story is kinda different. So then who would you say is qualified to speak on it that ISN'T speaking on it?

Caz already was, though it appears he got some pressure to back off somewhere. Anyone who was old enough to remember the 70s Bronx can attest to the real history. The YT channel The Culture Since 1971 (FKA Michael Wayne TV) is full of videos talking to people WHO WERE THERE, and ALL their stories line up. FBAs created Hip-Hop. Period. End of discussion.

Herc can say what he wants. He's probably trying to cash in on the "50th Anniversary", but he's about to be exposed.

 

[DontEemTry]

Caz already was, though it appears he got some pressure to back off somewhere. Anyone who was old enough to remember the 70s Bronx can attest to the real history. The YT channel The Culture Since 1971 (FKA Michael Wayne TV) is full of videos talking to people WHO WERE THERE, and ALL their stories line up. FBAs created Hip-Hop. Period. End of discussion.

Herc can say what he wants. He's probably trying to cash in on the "50th Anniversary", but he's about to be exposed.

Aight, I'll check out that channel

 

[TripleAgent]

Aight, I'll check out that channel

If you're really into the culture and history, it's fascinating. They show you how the DJ, MC and Breakdance elements started, and talk to originators.

 

[CHAIN]

Won't happen. Herc HIMSELF, OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, admitted none of it came from toasting or JA culture. He came here at 12, he wasn't THAT Jamaican to begin with, and admitted he was an outcast and switched up to what FBAs were doing. The music, dress, all of it. In a book from the 80s. He also ddn't create any elements. He also admitted DJ Flowers and Disco King Mario (the REAL father of Hip-Hop) predated him. His whole story is embellished at best.

Salute
But don't even bother. It looks like people are being purposely obtuse or don't care enough to see how it matters. A lot of posters here aren't who they present themselves to be.

Even I as a non FBA I understand how important it is for FBA to claim ownership. All this kumbaya shyt only makes way for colonizers to set up shop. The Afro Beat "community" should've been paying attention to this... "flabby" ...rhetoric too 'cause y'all most likely will go through the same shyt if y'all aren't already.

But y'all don't care though. Nothing is ever serious. Everything is jokes.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I am so confused on what this dude's even trying to ask

Me too. I was just wondering what he’s smoking on

 

[MajesticLion]

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

Suge Light

 

[Art Barr]

Trash

Nobody with any credibility has ever said that "Hip-Hop started in Jamaica or Puerto Rico". What they have said, and what the facts point to is that the central hip hop scene emerged out of the Bronx, NY....and that people from those two places contributed to the forming of the culture.

Dude in the video seems too old to be posting vids based on misguided premises.

What I will never understand is......people played dance music in Chicago clubs before Frankie Knuckles(from the BX) got there and began spinning, but he is UNIVERSALLY given credit as a (the) central figure in forming the House Music scene. Never heard one person say "bu bu but we were doing it before ".
Yet, dudes try to discredit Herc as a (the) central figure in Hip Hop forming.

Those are Toys talkin.

Ignore any toy.

Ask them what they wrote?

If they get confused by just the question.

They were never ever real.
about being in hiphop culture.
for real for real on no day.

Now I will look at the video.
If his verbiage is out of order.

Such as questions about rappers and not emcees emcee'n.
Then that is where it all goes awry.
as he is asking a misappropriated business term in a rapper about a culture. That the term misappropriated as rapper for an emcee came from.
just in verbiage,....
You can tell whom is who and what is what.

If you were really apart of hiphop.

the problem is consumers helped hijack the culture of hiphop.
along with prison industrial economy brain trust guided conglomerates. Now those same people in general.
are asking in the same misappropriated mass unison they misappropriated and created these issues.
to fix a problem.
People in the actual culture of hiphop never created and never ever endorsed.

so now. You have the rap product you wanted in free thought.
you misappropriated and wanted.

now deal with it.

I told you nikkaz since day one.
wtf it was and if you listened. Then you straight and you knew wtf it was and what was to this.

If not.

Well blame yourself for being stuck.

You can't blame me.
for not protecting the culture.

as i am theonkly sentry left on guard to the grail.


Where i do not see anyone.

stepping up to relieve me of my post at all.






Art Barr

 

[FeverPitch2]

The reason why the NYC old school and Golden Age contingent aren't up in arms about this is because a large swath of those artists have Caribbean roots themselves.
Most of them run or mix with Latinos. And FBAs.
Even though there is no Black or Brown coalition, what Tariq fails to realize is that in NYC, lower income FBAs, Caribbeans, and Latinos were housed, schooled, and socialized together.
Not to mention the mixed offspring form the mixing of FBA, Caribbean, and Latino men and women on the East Coast.
Which is why no one bats an eye when Joe or The Beatnuts say "nikka".

I thought about this over the weekend.
What I'm seeing is a spark of Gen X and Early Millennial artists re-entering the game or making themselves more visible.
I think the news that hip-hop is not doing well commercially has quieted the "that's what people want to hear" excuse that has allowed bullshyt music to thrive.
It seems like these older artist feels that they have to reclaim the culture, since they passed it down to Gen Z and they've left it for dead.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Black people in hip hop, and general, don’t give a fukk about nothing but the bag

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

This is definitely a dude who owns a bunch of kufi's.


Nobody cares about those talking points in real life,except for "conscious" weirdos like him and college aged people who don't actually listen to the music, just read the lyrics and want to break down things.

Caring about things makes you a weirdo