Turns Out White Millennials Are Just As Conservative As Their Parents
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yeah im not surprised cac gonna be cac , thats what some of them mean when they say "you get more conservative as you get older" , i mean its true unfortunately for lots of non whites too but especially for them, the only hope for them to stay progressive is if they keep getting fukked. thats why you even have any type of progressive movement since 08 cause the system is even affecting white people now. but if suddenly their situations improve theyll abandon it
You're caught in the moment to be honest. How much of this is a long term trend versus just a temporary reaction to Trump's presidency?
While I'm sure the GOP will do badly with this demographic this year, there's no doubt a significant amount of younger white voters will get more conservative when they get older and Trump is gone.
It's a long-term trend that has accelerated since the Trump presidency. Look at these numbers from 2000-2016.
Notice that for both Millennials and Generation X, the # of liberals was growing while the # of moderates shrank and the # of conservatives held steady. By 2016 in Generation X the liberals were beating conservatives 48% to 37% (up from just a 5-point advantage in 2000) and for Millennials the liberals were beating conservatives 54% to 33% (up from just a 13-point advantage in 2006).
So basically, between 2000 and 2016 the liberals had doubled their advantage among those two sets of voters. And now their advantage is even bigger. And those voters are only going to become more and more dominant in the voting pool, by the 2024 election they'll be the majority.
The only reason the Republicans haven't collapsed is because they've increased their advantage among the 75+yo voters and pulled even among the baby boomers. But those people are dying, they can't rely on them much longer. What are they going to do?
You're saying there's "no doubt", but why?
It's an urban legend that people become more conservative as they age. Some generations shift more conservative and some shift more liberal, it depends on the time. In fact, the crazy shyt when you see those numbers up there is that in EVERY generation, the number of liberals has increased around 50% during the 21st century. Even in the old-ass group, the number of strong liberals went up.
You're assuming that young people will become more conservative with Trump gone, as if they're going to just forget he was there. Nah, they ain't stupid like that.
The baby boomers could shift conservative because they had fond memories of Reagan, they were "Reagan Democrats" and all that shyt anyway. These Millennials have 20 years of watching Bush incompetence, rabid anti-Obama hate, Mitch McConnell being evil, and Trump being the worst president ever, and they saw all the old-ass racist Republicans LOVING that shyt. And every young up-and-coming Republican who has tried to break in during this time has done it by kissing Trump's ass.
They're gonna remember that shyt. That ain't just going away. The Republican party represents evil to the large majority of Americans under 50 and they've completely fukked themselves over for a generation to come. The only question is whether the Democratic establishment is going to take advantage by becoming more liberal or by becoming Republicans-lite.
Here's another crazy chart. Even the Republicans in the younger generations are more liberal on race issues than the older generations.
This is from 2018, meaning that it's even before this year's wave:
And this is from an academic study:
"The findings suggest that the generational divide in American politics today is unprecedented. For the second half of the twentieth century there was remarkably modest political disparity between generational cohorts. This lack of an age divide in American politics lead the field of political science to generally focus on other demographic gaps in American politics other than generational differences. Once the Millennial Generation first entered the electorate in the early 2000s, however, there has emerged a considerable generational gap in American politics. The Millennial Generation has developed distinct political leanings that are significantly to the left of older generations. Although there is a stereotype that younger Americans are more liberal and supportive of Democrats than older Americans are, from 1952 to 2000 this generally was not the case. In fact, prior to the Millennials, there tended to be little difference between the generations in presidential vote choice and ideological leanings, and the youngest generation was not consistently the most Democratic leaning or liberal. Given Millennials’ left-leaning politics, generational replacement would probably have an important influence of American politics regardless of whomever these voters were replacing in the electorate. The Silent Generation that is currently being replaced in the electorate, however, has in recent years emerged as considerably the most Republican and conservative generation in contemporary American politics. Conservative and Republican-leaning Americans are thus currently being replaced in the electorate by relatively liberal and Democratic-leaning voters. The Millennial Generation thus has the potential to alter the course of American politics."
Generational Cycles in American Politics, 1952–2016
I can imagine a backlash on gay/trans/gender issues sooner or later, but the old guard is pretty much fukked on racial issues and economic issues. Their ways are beginning to die with them.
This is from 2018, meaning that it's even before this year's wave:
And this is from an academic study:
"The findings suggest that the generational divide in American politics today is unprecedented. For the second half of the twentieth century there was remarkably modest political disparity between generational cohorts. This lack of an age divide in American politics lead the field of political science to generally focus on other demographic gaps in American politics other than generational differences. Once the Millennial Generation first entered the electorate in the early 2000s, however, there has emerged a considerable generational gap in American politics. The Millennial Generation has developed distinct political leanings that are significantly to the left of older generations. Although there is a stereotype that younger Americans are more liberal and supportive of Democrats than older Americans are, from 1952 to 2000 this generally was not the case. In fact, prior to the Millennials, there tended to be little difference between the generations in presidential vote choice and ideological leanings, and the youngest generation was not consistently the most Democratic leaning or liberal. Given Millennials’ left-leaning politics, generational replacement would probably have an important influence of American politics regardless of whomever these voters were replacing in the electorate. The Silent Generation that is currently being replaced in the electorate, however, has in recent years emerged as considerably the most Republican and conservative generation in contemporary American politics. Conservative and Republican-leaning Americans are thus currently being replaced in the electorate by relatively liberal and Democratic-leaning voters. The Millennial Generation thus has the potential to alter the course of American politics."
Generational Cycles in American Politics, 1952–2016
I can imagine a backlash on gay/trans/gender issues sooner or later, but the old guard is pretty much fukked on racial issues and economic issues. Their ways are beginning to die with them.
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doesnt really matter. if theres only a 5 percent difference between conservative and liberal white millennials, and every other demographic group is significantly more liberal, republicans can’t win elections
Also, this whole blame-white-people-for-all-the-world’s-problems strategy isn’t all that popular among the largest voting block in the country...despite what loud mouths on twitter might lead you to believe.
I think if folks came from this angle, you would change minds much faster.
MLK was going in this direction.
It's the better option because you'll have people seeing the similarities instead of the differences.
Overall, yea I don't expect my generation (millys) to all of a sudden have a different mindset from their parents.
Some posters just don't think. They getting access to a limited degree and that's all they want.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
exactly. There are enough minorities to keep them in check
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
the truth is rarely popular...and white people absolutely played a huge part in fukking up the modern world. deal with it
ADevilYouKhow
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Yapdatfool
Superstar
And they benefited from it as well BUT he's right. Can't tell whites the truth and then depend on them to vote to change it
. Makes me feel better to throw the truth at em but they still voting trump and friends at the end of the day...
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dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
I don’t trust white people to do what’s right, I expect them to do what’s white. I have no issue calling them out, they wasn’t gonna do the right thing whether we lie and/or hide the truth or confront them with it.And they benefited from it as well BUT he's right. Can't tell whites the truth and then depend on them to vote to change it
