Turk Released From Prison After Nine Years

[Long Live The Kane]

Let me get this straight, you named 3 B.G. albums from his prime and his most productive years, and then talk about Lights Out & SQ tapes that came out years later. This is confusing. Lets stick to the Hot Boys era, this is the era everyone is saying Wayne was better than B.G.

I mean all but one of those albums I listed as B.G. in his prime came out before the '99-'05 interval that you brought up...you could say the "Hot Boy era" was anywhere between '97-'02 (the last Hot Boy album actually dropped in the middle of '03, but it was old material)...my point being that Wayne was hands down nicer on some "skill" shyt by the time their 2nd major label solos came out within months of each other in 2000..

 

[Habit]

my point being that Wayne was hands down nicer on some "skill" shyt by the time their 2nd major label solos came out within months of each other in 2000

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Go listen to Checkmate and Lights Out right now...and honestly judge them based on some rap skill shyt...hands down, Lights Out has more varied and creative flows, more advanced rhyme schemes...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3nwE9fWwY#t=2m35s


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I'm not even talking about on no "who was spittin more real shyt" or "he was more gutta" or any of that abstract stuff...on some straight up rap skill shyt wayne had already passed him by that point and it was obvious they were going opposite directions...I copped them both when both came out and remember distinctly being let down with Checkmate and thinking BG was sleep walking through a lot of the album

 

[Lavish]

nikkas still sleepin on turk?

 

[Lavish]

[ame=http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhft87hCjI48n68SQq]Video: Turk Of Cash Money Records 'Hot Boy' 1st Post-Prison Interview After 8 Years + Footage Of Getting Released From Jail [Audio][/ame]

 

[Born2BKing]

Video: Turk Of Cash Money Records 'Hot Boy' 1st Post-Prison Interview After 8 Years + Footage Of Getting Released From Jail [Audio]

Sounds like he gonna sign with YMCMB.

 

[darealvelle]

Video: Turk Of Cash Money Records 'Hot Boy' 1st Post-Prison Interview After 8 Years + Footage Of Getting Released From Jail [Audio]

He bout to hit that bytch with kratos when they get back to the crib

 

[Born2BKing]

He bout to hit that bytch with kratos when they get back to the crib

Yeah she bad as hell too

 

[jadillac]

birdman should give him some money

has BG's name or face tattood on his arm, named his son after him...... and would still prolly let him starve to death. LOL

 

[jadillac]

lol @ a Hot Bys reunion.

Wayne been living in foreign mansions and driving Ghosts the past several years, skateboarding, while Turk and BG are locked up, and Juvenile is probably just living normally.

They aint got nothing in common to rap about now

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

you in here going on about some squad-up tapes; i can tell youre more of a mid-2000s cash money guy.

and im not trying to derail this thread, talking about stuff that dropped long after the hot boys, but i must say that those squad up tapes were not a factor. carter 1 is what made wayne a major player. you wayne fans on here love to make those squad tapes seem groundbreaking because you know that alot of the carter was ghostwritten. we see what yall doing.

Turk and Wayne were debated because they were less developed musically than Juvi & B.G., and couldn't come close to the body of work of Juvi & B.G. had by that point. Wayne first 3 solo cds were good, but it came when Juvi and B.G. were producing much better music. Its hard to take anything from Wayne because he was learning how to rap while running with two of the best rappers coming out of NO.

I considered Turk and Wayne equal, until Wayne started his run with those Sqad Up tapes. Only Carter 2 Wayne would be able to keep up with Juvi and B.G. if a Hot Boys cd dropped today. If they dropped a Hot Boys cd today, Wayne with his incoherent rhyming and random punchlines would not sound good next to Juvi and B.G. who would actually have something to say.



Are you using buzz and popularity to compare B.G. and Wayne? I rather focus on skill level. Can you honestly rate Wayne higher than B.G., when from 1999 - 2005 Wayne was still coming up? By then B.G. made his impact, while Wayne was still on his way. B.G. had better cds than Wayne during the Hot Boys days, but I still can't figure out how an unproven Wayne is better than B.G. because of the buzz factor. If that's the case Nelly & Ja Rule > B.G.

You wanna talk about Buzz, well Wayne was always more marketable, but he is not even the highest selling Cash Money artist till this day. Kids loved Wayne, this is why he was doing songs with Sammie and Bow Wow. Philly and Dip Set influence helped Wayne reach the next level.

The consensus Wayne became that n1gga during the Carter 1 era. By then B.G. already made history.

POWERFUL POST.

straight crushin these dudes' childhood/pubescent nostalgia. these are the types of dudes that think jarule(no disrespect) was running new york around this time because he had the commercial hits & push. im sure you see alot of that chit on this site too.

and yea, wayne was like 18, still being marketed on some goo-goo-ga-ga chit. turk & bg were just a 1-2 years older, yet the general public assumes that they were way older than wayne because cash money went out of their way to stress wayne's age. the fact that they didnt do that for bg & turk pretty much says all that needs to be said. not to mention that bg had classic albums at 15-16, while wayne wasnt even taken seriously until he was like 21.

great way to cap it off with that last statement.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

He bout to hit that bytch with kratos when they get back to the crib

lol.

LET HER GET IN THE CAR AT LEAST, TURK!!!

I mean all but one of those albums I listed as B.G. in his prime came out before the '99-'05 interval that you brought up...you could say the "Hot Boy era" was anywhere between '97-'02 (the last Hot Boy album actually dropped in the middle of '03, but it was old material)...my point being that Wayne was hands down nicer on some "skill" shyt by the time their 2nd major label solos came out within months of each other in 2000..

when you say "skill-wise", are you referring to forced lyricism?

lol @ you acting like "lights out" got any type of luv in '00-01. that chit was considered a waste of beats.

checkmate(albeit dissappointing) was better than "lights out".

i agree with some of what youre saying, but lol.

lol @ a Hot Bys reunion.

Wayne been living in foreign mansions and driving Ghosts the past several years, skateboarding, while Turk and BG are locked up, and Juvenile is probably just living normally.

They aint got nothing in common to rap about now

they didnt have much in common to begin with. wayne was never cut from the same cloth as them dudes.

really, im kinda glad that theres not gonna be a reunion. too much revisionist history revolving around this group on the account of the media & novice fans. i rather just chalk it. dont wanna see one of my all-time favorite groups go out like that.

im 27 homie, i remember the rise of the hoy boys and cash money period. b.g. was definitely one of the hottest out dont get me wrong, but whos verse do people quote more on bling bling, b.g.'s or waynes? whos lyrics did people quote more on back that ass up? or hot boys "we on fire"? you seem to be the one stuck in fantasy island... at no specific point was b.g. regarded any higher than lil wayne, if nothing else he just complimented the group, but as a solo artist his buzz was nowhere near as high as waynes. B.G. was very popular, they all were, but everyone pretty much knew wayne was that nikka, and you trying to falsify some other image or facts for B.G. that never existed is only slightly amusing at best.

i see you skimmed past the "when did you hop off the porch?" question. you un-intentionally answered that anyway.

who was running around quoting wayne lines from "back that thing up" & "bling bling"? mostly females, children and at best - commercial-minded 9th/10th graders who were still kinda on that kid chit. thanks for proving my point buddy.

lol @ "bling bling". that was just some chit for the radio. stood out like a sore thumb on that album.

You're fooling. I was of age (19/20) when wayne dropped. copped block is hot the day it dropped,same with young and thuggin. Turk was always the wish bone/u-god of the clique,weakest verses (most of the time) and had the weakest most ignored debut out of all the hot boys post major deal. As far as B.G vs wayne. Although i liked B.G, better due to his track record and his more real sounding songs,it was clear to me in 1999 that wayne was #2 in the talent dept behind juvie.

you the homie and all but come on.

i dont know if you have your timeline mixed up or what but turk's album didnt drop until after cash money's wave was drying up, thanks in part to lackluster releases like "lights out".

also, turk's album was intially selling the same as "lights out" despite the fact that they were trying to push wayne to the moon, and just threw turk's chit out there.

 

[Lavish]

What you guys have to realize is that one of the main reason the hotboys were as big as they were, was because the diversity.

turk wasnt wack. he was just different and provided some balance.

wayne was the slick talker..he was the witty one out the group and had the most energy

juve was the OG that had the wisdom

BG was just a gangster who loved his chopper

and turk was the quite one....he came through layed back and was straight to the point. he had a singy kind of flow

it was refereshin to hear them on a track because they all brought somethin different. who wants a group of 4 lil waynes?

 

[OG Talk]

How old is Turk? Is he even 30 yet? He is probably still considered young to this generation of rappers..

 

[Long Live The Kane]

when you say "skill-wise", are you referring to forced lyricism?

lol @ you acting like "lights out" got any type of luv in '00-01. that chit was considered a waste of beats.

checkmate(albeit dissappointing) was better than "lights out".

i agree with some of what youre saying, but lol.

were trying to push wayne to the moon, and just threw turk's chit out there.

When I say "skill-wise" I'm referring to every single solitary technical aspect of lyricism....

Go listen to Checkmate and Lights Out right now...and honestly judge them based on some rap skill shyt...hands down, Lights Out has more varied and creative flows, more advanced rhyme schemes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3SIXvL0t0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3nwE9fWwY#t=2m35s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4rfUQJ5kmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6culKsr4D4s

I'm not even talking about on no "who was spittin more real shyt" or "he was more gutta" or any of that abstract stuff...on some straight up rap skill shyt wayne had already passed him by that point and it was obvious they were going opposite directions...I copped them both when both came out and remember distinctly being let down with Checkmate and thinking BG was sleep walking through a lot of the album

This is one of your lil ridiculous revisionist history passion projects (like your Outkast hating campaign)...so I know there's no reasoning with you on it...but outside of revisionist hate on Wayne birthed out of the fact that he remained relevant all these years, is currently the top heel in rap...and therefore doesn't get any of the "nostalgia" bump the rest of the hot boys get...anybody that listens to actual LYRICS and separate the emotions, can tell what is what

Far as Turk goes, ....again he was far and away last on the totem poll...in EVERY regard....of course you had that small group of people that was on some contratrian "fukk what y'all talking bout, Turk my dude" shyt...but it's a reason why his solo didn't drop til after Juvi, Wayne, and BG got two solo albums a piece, Big Tymers dropped an album, and like 2 or 3 complilations dropped....it really is one of the more egregious examples of revisionist history I've ever seen how you're trying to spin this shyt