Tunisian Girls Return Home Pregnant From "Sexual Jihad" in Syria

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nikkaz is running trains in the name of Allah? :wtf: :dahell:

So here's what I'm wondering. why exactly did the girls have to come from Tunisia? Aren't there much closer places where they can import their Holy sluts or is the Tunisian brand the best on the terrorist market? I'm failing to understand what exactly this is for, the rebels aren't exactly gonna have a shortage in fighters. Either this is fake or nikkaz just said fukk the Quran, lets call the ahkis, lets run a train. :russ:
 

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According to the facts...there is nothing that shows a civil war. Especially since 98% of the opposition is non-Syrian.

I don't know where you got that percentage. The FSA is almost entirely Syrian (they're mostly military defectors,) and make up about 50% of the rebels. Another 40% are local Islamists. Under 10% are foreign fighters (under 10 because the local Al Qaeda affiliate isn't mostly foreign, either.)
 
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I don't know where you got that percentage. The FSA is almost entirely Syrian (they're military defectors,) and make up about 50% of the rebels. Another 40% are local Islamists. Under 10% are foreign fighters.

The FSA is entirely Syrian....can you provide who is Syrian in there? Local Islamists 40%? Where did that come from? Where is the Al-Nursa Front, Al-Qeada
 

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Breh, the FSA is mostly defectors from Assad's military, so they're mostly Syrian. And yeah, local Muslim-Brotherhood style Islamists make up about 40%. Al-Nusra only made up of about 5,000 people.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/4...intelligence-briefing-on-the-assad-resistance


Unfortunately...the thousands of Defectors has been a actual myth in this conflict. Having a few defectors which is even questionable if they weren't spies for another government, if thousands have defected...there would have been an world-wide article stating that Assad is losing men to the FSA and that the opposition has the country on their side.

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/the-free-syrian-army-doesnt-exist/

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/30/why-no-revolution-exists-in-syria/

1. We all know Syrians never liked Saudi Arabia or it's politics...yet one of biggest financiers of the FSA is Saudi Arabia. How can a people from Syrian support the very group they don't like? If this was truly about Syrians why hasn't any other ethnic group join this group?

2. Notice many of these groups are created way after the so called fighting began( some as late as Dec. 2012).

3. What group of these factions are non-violent and want to sit down and talk to the government?

4. The article doesn't mention where these groups are coming from exactly.
 

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Unfortunately...the thousands of Defectors has been a actual myth in this conflict. Having a few defectors which is even questionable if they weren't spies for another government, if thousands have defected...there would have been an world-wide article stating that Assad is losing men to the FSA and that the opposition has the country on their side.

http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/the-free-syrian-army-doesnt-exist/

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/30/why-no-revolution-exists-in-syria/

1. We all know Syrians never liked Saudi Arabia or it's politics...yet one of biggest financiers of the FSA is Saudi Arabia. How can a people from Syrian support the very group they don't like? If this was truly about Syrians why hasn't any other ethnic group join this group?

2. Notice many of these groups are created way after the so called fighting began( some as late as Dec. 2012).

3. What group of these factions are non-violent and want to sit down and talk to the government?

4. The article doesn't mention where these groups are coming from exactly.

Breh your 2nd link doesn't contradict anything I said. It cites that same number- over 50,000. Just because the military rebels aren't a cohesive unit, doesn't mean they don't have those numbers. Al Qaeda is the same way- random people claim the title all the time even if they don't have any connection to central leadership.

Second, your 2nd link contradicts your 1st one, which is far less reliable and shows no evidence for its claims that the entire rebellion is funded and fabricated by outsiders. There's obviously more than one outside influence at work, but it's not a puppet show. That's a lazy analysis.

1. Saudi Arabia hates Assad- that's why they finance the rebels. You have to remember, it's not about peoples, it's about governments.

2. I don't see how this is relevant. That's how chaotic civil conflicts work- alliances are made and broken, and groups form and implode throughout the process.

3. None of them are non-violent. There are nonviolent protesters in the city, but none of those are part of any of these major rebel groups. They're mostly liberal Syrian youth.

4. The groups are coming from many places, but the fact remains that the bulk of these groups are native to Syria, even if they're accepting some money from elsewhere.
 
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Breh your 2nd link doesn't contradict anything I said. It cites that same number- over 50,000. Just because the military rebels aren't a cohesive unit, doesn't mean they don't have those numbers. Al Qaeda is the same way- random people claim the title all the time even if they don't have any connection to central leadership.

Second, your 2nd link contradicts your 1st one, which is far less reliable and shows no evidence for its claims that the entire rebellion is funded and fabricated by outsiders. There's obviously more than one outside influence at work, but it's not a puppet show. That's a lazy analysis.

1. Saudi Arabia hates Assad- that's why they finance the rebels. You have to remember, it's not about peoples, it's about governments.

2. I don't see how this is relevant. That's how chaotic civil conflicts work- alliances are made and broken, and groups form and implode throughout the process.

3. None of them are non-violent. There are nonviolent protesters in the city, but none of those are part of any of these major rebel groups. They're mostly liberal Syrian youth.

4. The groups are coming from many places, but the fact remains that the bulk of these groups are native to Syria, even if they're accepting some money from elsewhere.

Where did I say it had to contradict what you said but it has already told you that these groups aren't grass movements which proves that the Rebels aren't so much Syrian( very little are). You have ignored the Defector piece in the 2nd link which states "The Syrian defectors’ story was mostly a useful propaganda piece for western countries — the U.S. specifically — to push people’s attention away from the Islamist extremists who make up the overwhelming majority of the armed struggle. Although there have been a couple of high-level defectors from the Syrian government, they’ve never expanded beyond token amounts, as the unity of the Syrian government continues to testify.

These small amounts of defectors which is extremely small has been pushed as an agenda. No real proof that there are thousands of defectors. That is laughable since the majority of the country supports Assad.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/05/31/nato-data-assad-winning-the-war-for-syrians-hearts-and-minds/


1. Saudi Hates Assad.....really? Saudi hates any Arab Country or Muslim country that doesn't follow their rule of law. You contradicted yourself about Saudi hating Assad in your 2nd sentence. Saudi wants a Monarchy Regime in Lebanon and Syria....always wanted that.

2. Chaotic? It's only chaotic that Syrian groups who don't want Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE,etc involved can't seem to get their point across except for violence with each other. That isn't a alliance force. Why would Syrian fighters( who you claim are from Syria) attack Christian and Kurdish Villages? If they had beef with the Government why would they attack non-government places?



http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20130426/syria-rebels-and-kurds-clash-aleppo



3. So opposition groups were never non-violent. Proves the point of the whole "Arab Spring in Syria"

4. Yes they are coming from elsewhere not just in the Arab Gulf but from Turkey, France, Britain, United States, Balkins, Pakistan, Afghanistan and 12 other countries. Can you name me another so called "Civil War" that allowed these many nations to participate in a conflict with one nation? Plus do you really think that Gulf Governments would just fund Syrians to fight their government. They know that wouldn't work and they would lose.
 

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I'll concede that it's a horribly written piece, with a lot of confusing elements (not surprising considering the source,) but I don't think it's fake. Seems par for the course. At this point, about half of the rebels are Islamists of one kind or another, and the other half is mostly military dudes. Whether it's voluntary or trafficking, I wouldn't put it past either kind of rebel. Also, if the quote from the minister was fabricated, it would have been exposed, and we don't know whether this particular minister is anti-Assad or not.

fair enough. I'm certainly no fan of these takfiri sadists, they would make the Taliban and Al-Shabab look like Jeffersonian democrats if they found themselves ruling Syria one day. I'm just deeply skeptical of any news that's coming out of Syria these days.
 

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Where did I say it had to contradict what you said but it has already told you that these groups aren't grass movements which proves that the Rebels aren't so much Syrian( very little are). You have ignored the Defector piece in the 2nd link which states "The Syrian defectors’ story was mostly a useful propaganda piece for western countries — the U.S. specifically — to push people’s attention away from the Islamist extremists who make up the overwhelming majority of the armed struggle. Although there have been a couple of high-level defectors from the Syrian government, they’ve never expanded beyond token amounts, as the unity of the Syrian government continues to testify.

These small amounts of defectors which is extremely small has been pushed as an agenda. No real proof that there are thousands of defectors. That is laughable since the majority of the country supports Assad.

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/05/31/nato-data-assad-winning-the-war-for-syrians-hearts-and-minds/


1. Saudi Hates Assad.....really? Saudi hates any Arab Country or Muslim country that doesn't follow their rule of law. You contradicted yourself about Saudi hating Assad in your 2nd sentence. Saudi wants a Monarchy Regime in Lebanon and Syria....always wanted that.

2. Chaotic? It's only chaotic that Syrian groups who don't want Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE,etc involved can't seem to get their point across except for violence with each other. That isn't a alliance force. Why would Syrian fighters( who you claim are from Syria) attack Christian and Kurdish Villages? If they had beef with the Government why would they attack non-government places?



http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20130426/syria-rebels-and-kurds-clash-aleppo



3. So opposition groups were never non-violent. Proves the point of the whole "Arab Spring in Syria"

4. Yes they are coming from elsewhere not just in the Arab Gulf but from Turkey, France, Britain, United States, Balkins, Pakistan, Afghanistan and 12 other countries. Can you name me another so called "Civil War" that allowed these many nations to participate in a conflict with one nation? Plus do you really think that Gulf Governments would just fund Syrians to fight their government. They know that wouldn't work and they would lose.


1. Whether they're grassroots or not has nothing to do with whether they're Syrian.

2. The point of the defector argument you posted was that defectors don't make up the majority of the rebellion. I never denied that.

3. The small amount of defectors in that quote you posted refers to government defectors, not military. That's why that same article also says that military rebels could amount to up to 50,000, which is exactly the number I posted before.

4. Stop reaching. Just because a few Taliban and Al Qaeda showed up Syria doesn't mean there's a worldwide conspiracy to overthrow Assad, even if several actors are involved. And yes, the Saudis would fund Syrians to rebel against their government. They've done it elsewhere.

5. It doesn't matter whether most Syrians support Assad. That doesn't change the fact that military defectors exist and that there are over 100,000 armed people who are actively involved in a violent struggle to depose him.
 
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1. Whether they're grassroots or not has nothing to do with whether they're Syrian.

2. The point of the defector argument you posted was that defectors don't make up the majority of the rebellion. I never denied that.

3. The small amount of defectors in that quote you posted refers to government defectors, not military. That's why that same article also says that military rebels could amount to up to 50,000, which is exactly the number I posted before.

4. Stop reaching. Just because a few Taliban and Al Qaeda showed up Syria doesn't mean there's a worldwide conspiracy to overthrow Assad, even if several actors are involved. And yes, the Saudis would fund Syrians to rebel against their government. They've done it elsewhere.

5. It doesn't matter whether most Syrians support Assad. That doesn't change the fact that military defectors exist and that there are over 100,000 armed people who are actively involved in a violent struggle to depose him.

1. So if The Arab Spring was created outside Syria and there were Syrian who wanted to act like there was a big protest that was shot down by government, that would be ok with you?

2. You did post something of thousands of defectors but it simply wasn't true.

3. So when did the Military separate itself from the Govt? Please stop. Cause you know damn well what was said. The only real defectors were those mentioned in the first link. The rest are made up.

4. Brooking Institution wrote a book in 2009 called "Which Path to Persia" this is a book guide-lining how to dismantle Iran. In the book it outlines how to create a Color Revolutions, Assassinations and prop up terrorist groups. Its all about destroying Iran and it's allies. General Wesley Clark already mentioned 7 countries in 5 years, Libya, Somalia, Lebanon, Sudan, Syria, Iraq and Iran. So there are 2 examples of real situations happening now. You can deny it but you can't disprove it.

4a. 100,000 troops isn't even real....the reports are from the FSA groups themselves, not a real assessment. 70% of the country supports Assad, that is all that matters.
 
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