Tunisia 'needs a cultural revolution' to combat racism
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I have Arab and Arabized Berber friends. I had Algerian and Tunisian neighbors as a kid in Boston and they were cool. One of my good friends growing up was a Moroccan Berber.
However, as others have said though, North Africans are racist as hell in the collective sense. There countries are anti-black and dissociate themselves from Black Africans. I once asked an Egyptian girl out and while she was into me, she knew her dad would kill her for touching a black guy. We basically lost touch and it sucked. That’s life lol.
Anyway, what the Tunisian president said doesn’t surprise me. We need strong Black African countries and we need to rule them with iron fists and a strong program of African pride, power and prosperity. I’m Zimbabwean. I can’t wait for a strong Zimbabwe. We make our own guns and military gear. All we need is nukes, good economics, good governance and Africa shall rise. Africa is a young continent with deep roots. We have all the ingredients for a continent of superpowers.
However, as others have said though, North Africans are racist as hell in the collective sense. There countries are anti-black and dissociate themselves from Black Africans. I once asked an Egyptian girl out and while she was into me, she knew her dad would kill her for touching a black guy. We basically lost touch and it sucked. That’s life lol.
Anyway, what the Tunisian president said doesn’t surprise me. We need strong Black African countries and we need to rule them with iron fists and a strong program of African pride, power and prosperity. I’m Zimbabwean. I can’t wait for a strong Zimbabwe. We make our own guns and military gear. All we need is nukes, good economics, good governance and Africa shall rise. Africa is a young continent with deep roots. We have all the ingredients for a continent of superpowers.
This is insane but not outright surprising!
Racism is alive and kicking. Somebody check that b*stard!
Racism is alive and kicking. Somebody check that b*stard!
I find all the posturing hilarious. With the exception of egypt, every single one of their countrjes is an economic, political, and military mess. Id understand if any of them were thriving; but that is not the case. Its the same energy we get from Indians who are also not doing well.
I agree with everything in the last paragraph of your post, accept for the nukes. They are counterintuitive to having a good economy in the 21st century. Its a garunteed ticket to getting the Iran or North Korea treatment from the world. Notice how all the newly developed nations in the last 50yrs prioritized economic cohesion with the west as opposed to antagonizing them (korea, singapore, chile, taiwan, uruguay, etc). Even china didnt start military posturing until this most recent decade, they waited until their economy was solid before antagonizing the west.
Swahili P'Bitek
Absorbingpovertywithoutlimitations
The corruption, the corruption, the corruption. If we could tame it all else will fall into place.
DoubleClutch
Superstar
I was just reading about this the other day. It’s sad but
1. Is it a surprise that a Muslim country with a majority “Arab” identifying population is racist?
2. The bigger issue is why are black Africans running from their home countries to Tunisia?
They should be prepared for what’s coming to them.
1. Is it a surprise that a Muslim country with a majority “Arab” identifying population is racist?
2. The bigger issue is why are black Africans running from their home countries to Tunisia?
They should be prepared for what’s coming to them.
There are many Arabs in Nigeria as well. I am in a Lebanese restaurant as we speak. They are thriving and are allowed to live their lives in peace. I see Arabs and Chinese daily in Lagos.
People travel, people seek a better life, absolutely nothing wrong with them and don't belive their propaganda, they are not inundated with black Africans.
These people just seem to love to hate black people.
DoubleClutch
Superstar
Yea but black Africans should know traveling to a Muslim country where most people follow a religion/culture with a history that advocates the mistreatment enslavement of African peoples isn’t a good idea.
Also if these travelers are already financially stable, educated and have connections or a plan set out when arriving in a new country they will have less problems/push back
I guess every situation is different but from what I’ve seen it’s Africans unprepared traveling to a place they aren’t welcome
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
Most of the Black people that reside in Tunisia and undiscriminatingly suffer the consequences of the recent rise in assaults could be categorized in the following groups:
a) Black Tunisians with long ancestry in the country
b) Students
c) Immigrants passing by and stucked
d) Families that joined somebody with a stable situation there
They haven't found themselves in this situation because of their own naivete. They either belong there or search for opportunities. If local hostility or hardship was a legitimate justification for avoiding certain places, then that means they shouldn't stay in their home country neither where those same difficulties exist. And then it's a catch-22.
Bottomline in this case is that they're used a political scapegoat by the Tunisian president. It's on local solidarity networks and subsaharian African governments and organizations to repatriate them, as some are already doing.
DoubleClutch
Superstar
But how do the black Tunisian with long ancestry not have power or influence to defend themselves
If these black Tunisians are also Muslim why would Arab Tunisians treat them bad?
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
1) I mean, being powerless and not having influence is the statu quo for the overwhelming majority of the population on the globe, isn't it? Plus they are a minority and suffer the social stigma inherited from slavery. What particular power can we expect them to have in their situation? Or influence over who?
2) Folks of the same creed have been in conflict since time immemorial. Their shared religion is only one common parameter among many intertwined others, notably the cultural, economic and social legacy of slavery in this region. Worshipping the same God is too thin of a bottomline for humans to be cool with each other. Same goes with race and other social categories.
DoubleClutch
Superstar
Maybe it’s not a black vs white or Arab vs African issue then
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
It can't be excluded nor reduced to that
