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It's gotten so far...now they saying Ortiz and Thurman in addition to Spence and Crawford stops Boots:laugh:
I don't know about Ortiz. But I've always maintained the Thurman takes him to school.

Again... People forget that Thurman's only loss is to one of the greatest fighters of his generation.
 

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I don't know about Ortiz. But I've always maintained the Thurman takes him to school.



Again... People forget that Thurman's only loss is to one of the greatest fighters of his generation.



Of course but knocking Boots out? Odd assessment.
 

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Y'all gonna ignore the obvious until y'all stuck with the I eat ass face. Ortiz would give Boots hell bruh, if not should be favored to win the fight. I been saying this and am gonna keep saying this. Ortiz is being moved along better than Boots too. They both fought movers in their last fights, Ortiz got McKinson outta there though. :manny:
 

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Y'all gonna ignore the obvious until y'all stuck with the I eat ass face. Ortiz would give Boots hell bruh, if not should be favored to win the fight. I been saying this and am gonna keep saying this. Ortiz is being moved along better than Boots too. They both fought movers in their last fights, Ortiz got McKinson outta there though. :manny:
I think it would be a helluva fight while it lasted (because someone's getting KO'ed lol) but I'll repeat this: anyone that sits in the pocket with Boots is putting themselves in a serious danger zone. Ortiz is good but he got rocked by Mean Machine in the pocket bro. Boots puts his punches together way better & might not let him off the hook if he rocks him like that
 

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I think it would be a helluva fight while it lasted (because someone's getting KO'ed lol) but I'll repeat this: anyone that sits in the pocket with Boots is putting themselves in a serious danger zone. Ortiz is good but he got rocked by Mean Machine in the pocket bro. Boots puts his punches together way better & might not let him off the hook if he rocks him like that
I think you're overlooking that anyone who sits in the pocket with Ortiz is putting themselves in a serious danger zone. Lol

Have you watched him fight, standing in the pocket with Ortiz will get you blasted outta there by him, the only current WW I think who can hang in the pocket with Ortiz without getting absolutely wrecked would be Spence. Boots would be crazy to try to stay in the pocket with Ortiz. He has just as much handspeed and Ortiz is a bigger puncher, Boots would be better off sticking and moving.
 

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I think you're overlooking that anyone who sits in the pocket with Ortiz is putting themselves in a serious danger zone. Lol

Have you watched him fight, standing in the pocket with Ortiz will get you blasted outta there by him, the only current WW I think who can hang in the pocket with Ortiz without getting absolutely wrecked would be Spence. Boots would be crazy to try to stay in the pocket with Ortiz. He has just as much handspeed and Ortiz is a bigger puncher, Boots would be better off sticking and moving.
Nah, not at all because Ortiz is a puncher himself lol

Boots is just a little more slick & punches in combo better & I think an argument can be made for Boots being faster. He'd give Ortiz different looks. What I don't like is he eats very clean overhand rights from orthodox fighters way too often. That'll get him put to sleep against a puncher like Ortiz if he doesn't have a chin. I'll go on record for Boots stopping him if they fought though. If you fight in the pocket with him, you'll make him look like the 2nd coming of Roy Jones Jr. lol

He & Spence would be a lot of fun to watch
 

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Nah, not at all because Ortiz is a puncher himself lol

Boots is just a little more slick & punches in combo better & I think an argument can be made for Boots being faster. He'd give Ortiz different looks. What I don't like is he eats very clean overhand rights from orthodox fighters way too often. That'll get him put to sleep against a puncher like Ortiz if he doesn't have a chin. I'll go on record for Boots stopping him if they fought though. If you fight in the pocket with him, you'll make him look like the 2nd coming of Roy Jones Jr. lol

He & Spence would be a lot of fun to watch
Boots aint got the footwork or reflexes of Roy Jones though. I would call fighters like Boots and Crawford dynamic more than slick, slick means you can do it without getting hit(like Sweet Pea and Floyd) they get hit clean too much for me to call them slick(the amount of jabs Kell Brook landed on Crawford in their brief fight was... alarming), they are dynamic in their offense to where they are always throwing different punches at you from wierd angles.

At the same time the reason why I don't know how well Boots would do against Ortiz and Spence is because they are gonna throw little subtle things in that Boots aint seen before either. Spence and Ortiz aren't throwing crazy looking combos at you, but they are effective and they almost always land and win exchanges because they use their feet and shoulders to always be in position to punch and keep you from throwing your most effective punches back. Also he hasn't been in their with someone who is gonna punch with him.

On paper the styles look like a good matchup, but in real life the more I watch the two of them fight the more I think two things: 1. Ortiz and Boots will probably be a trilogy and 2. The first fight Ortiz will win because Boots aint gonna know what hit him when he gets in their with someone who is REALLY fighting back, not getting overwhelmed the whole time.

I pick Boots to beat Crawford because a lot of Crawford's game comes from his athleticism which is fading, he doesn't utilize the footwork like he did at 135 and 140 anymore, he is flat footed most of the time now cause he is loading up on all his power punches. Fighting that way Boots is more athletic, bigger, stronger, faster, just as long, taller... you get what I'm saying.
 

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Boots aint got the footwork or reflexes of Roy Jones though. I would call fighters like Boots and Crawford dynamic more than slick, slick means you can do it without getting hit(like Sweet Pea and Floyd) they get hit clean too much for me to call them slick(the amount of jabs Kell Brook landed on Crawford in their brief fight was... alarming), they are dynamic in their offense to where they are always throwing different punches at you from wierd angles.

At the same time the reason why I don't know how well Boots would do against Ortiz and Spence is because they are gonna throw little subtle things in that Boots aint seen before either. Spence and Ortiz aren't throwing crazy looking combos at you, but they are effective and they almost always land and win exchanges because they use their feet and shoulders to always be in position to punch and keep you from throwing your most effective punches back. Also he hasn't been in their with someone who is gonna punch with him.

On paper the styles look like a good matchup, but in real life the more I watch the two of them fight the more I think two things: 1. Ortiz and Boots will probably be a trilogy and 2. The first fight Ortiz will win because Boots aint gonna know what hit him when he gets in their with someone who is REALLY fighting back, not getting overwhelmed the whole time.

I pick Boots to beat Crawford because a lot of Crawford's game comes from his athleticism which is fading, he doesn't utilize the footwork like he did at 135 and 140 anymore, he is flat footed most of the time now cause he is loading up on all his power punches. Fighting that way Boots is more athletic, bigger, stronger, faster, just as long, taller... you get what I'm saying.
I agree lol. I'm just saying what I think the public would say :russ: I hated when people compared Boots to him because I didn't see it & Roy was an obvious once in a generation or two fighter & athlete with some of the craziest footwork I've ever seen. He's the greatest fighter I've ever seen in my lifetime. We'll have to agree to disagree on some of the other things lol
 

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I agree lol. I'm just saying what I think the public would say :russ: I hated when people compared Boots to him because I didn't see it & Roy was an obvious once in a generation or two fighter & athlete with some of the craziest footwork I've ever seen. He's the greatest fighter I've ever seen in my lifetime. We'll have to agree to disagree on some of the other things lol
Yeah Roy was something else. He did somethings wrong on a technical level, but those speed and reflexes it didn't matter. Not to many people can completely outclass a P4P great like that like he did James Toney.

I'd love to hear what you disagree with me about, it's nice to actually talk to someone who will argue boxing and not politics.
 

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does boots trainer saying he dont watch film on opponents scare anyone else ?
 

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does boots trainer saying he dont watch film on opponents scare anyone else ?
If it wasn't Boots' dad I'd say that would be a huge red flag for anybody, but since it's his pops he'll probably overlook it.

Boots pops needs to teach him how to cut the ring off though more than anything that should be priority #1 in their camp.
 

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If it wasn't Boots' dad I'd say that would be a huge red flag for anybody, but since it's his pops he'll probably overlook it.

Boots pops needs to teach him how to cut the ring off though more than anything that should be priority #1 in their camp.
you think errol / bud / ortiz wont be watching film on him?
 
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