Tulsa 1921 - Black Wall Street
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cleanface coney
Superstar
That's a defeated attitude to adopt
what did she say that was so wrong?
Tommy Knocks
retired
With the laws being the way they are now. Another attempt should be made at this, I would propose ATL or Houston. This time get insurance...and by insurance, I mean in multiples ways.........
....because trust they will try to infiltrate it.......
....because trust they will try to infiltrate it.......
newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
this is the stuff that we need to preserve and teach to future generations. I can't process the info at this time, but there were alot of gems i saw and were said in those articles that reflect alot of the stuff currently happening.
Elle Driver
Veteran
Elle Driver
Veteran
You're one to talk.
BelowTheMasonDixon
Veteran
Mary Turner & Hayes Turner of Valdosta Georgia
On the evening of 16 May 1918, 31-year old white plantation owner Hampton Smith, known to abuse and beat his workers, was shot and killed on the plantation by one of his black workers, 19-year old Sidney Johnson. As the owner of the Old Joyce Place, Smith's notoriety as a usually severe boss made recruiting workers difficult. Smith resolved the labor shortage through the use of convict labor; he paid Sidney Johnson's $30 fine (Johnson had been convicted of playing dice) and forced him to work on his plantation. Johnson endured several beatings at the hands of Smith. Days before Smith's killing, Johnson had been severely beaten by Smith for refusing to work while he was sick. Smith also had a history with Hayes and Mary Turner: in one incident, Hayes was sentenced to the chain gang when he threatened Smith for beating his wife, Mary.
Smith's death was followed by a week-long mob-driven manhunt in which at least 13 people were killed. Among those whom the mob killed was another black man, Hayes Turner, who was seized from custody after his arrest on the morning of 18 May 1918 and lynched. Distraught, his eight-month pregnant wife Mary denied that her husband had been involved in Smith's killing, publicly opposed her husband's murder, and threatened to have members of the mob arrested. The mob then turned against her, determined to "teach her a lesson". Although she fled when she learned of the mob's intent, she was nevertheless captured at noon on 19 May. The mob of several hundred brought her to Folsom Bridge over Little River, which separates Brooks and Lowndes counties. The mob then tied her ankles, hung her upside down from a tree, doused her in gasoline and motor oil and set her on fire.While Turner was still alive, a member of the mob split her abdomen open with a knife. Her unborn child fell on the ground, where it gave a cry before it was stomped on and crushed. Finally, Turner's body was riddled with hundreds of bullets. Mary Turner and her child were cut down and buried near the tree, with a whiskey bottle marking the grave.
another account
A poor Black pregnant woman Mary Turner in Georgia, had her unborn child cut from her womb as she burned at the stake. While she was inflamed a white man stepped from the crowd, slit her stomach with his pocket knife, and when the fetus fell to the ground, he stomped it and said "One less ******". Thousands of curbside spectators slapped their knees as they laughed in amusement.
Mary's crime: She had disputed the word of a white man that falsely accused her husband of murdering a white man in a dispute over money owed him by the white man. A shoot out ensued. The white man died in what otherwise was a fair fight. For her protest after they lynched her husband before her eyes, they tied her to a tree, poured gas on her, oil and set her on fire. After she writhed silently in the flames in defiance, she was doused a second time as white children danced and chanted in song and rhyme.
On the evening of 16 May 1918, 31-year old white plantation owner Hampton Smith, known to abuse and beat his workers, was shot and killed on the plantation by one of his black workers, 19-year old Sidney Johnson. As the owner of the Old Joyce Place, Smith's notoriety as a usually severe boss made recruiting workers difficult. Smith resolved the labor shortage through the use of convict labor; he paid Sidney Johnson's $30 fine (Johnson had been convicted of playing dice) and forced him to work on his plantation. Johnson endured several beatings at the hands of Smith. Days before Smith's killing, Johnson had been severely beaten by Smith for refusing to work while he was sick. Smith also had a history with Hayes and Mary Turner: in one incident, Hayes was sentenced to the chain gang when he threatened Smith for beating his wife, Mary.
Smith's death was followed by a week-long mob-driven manhunt in which at least 13 people were killed. Among those whom the mob killed was another black man, Hayes Turner, who was seized from custody after his arrest on the morning of 18 May 1918 and lynched. Distraught, his eight-month pregnant wife Mary denied that her husband had been involved in Smith's killing, publicly opposed her husband's murder, and threatened to have members of the mob arrested. The mob then turned against her, determined to "teach her a lesson". Although she fled when she learned of the mob's intent, she was nevertheless captured at noon on 19 May. The mob of several hundred brought her to Folsom Bridge over Little River, which separates Brooks and Lowndes counties. The mob then tied her ankles, hung her upside down from a tree, doused her in gasoline and motor oil and set her on fire.While Turner was still alive, a member of the mob split her abdomen open with a knife. Her unborn child fell on the ground, where it gave a cry before it was stomped on and crushed. Finally, Turner's body was riddled with hundreds of bullets. Mary Turner and her child were cut down and buried near the tree, with a whiskey bottle marking the grave.
another account
A poor Black pregnant woman Mary Turner in Georgia, had her unborn child cut from her womb as she burned at the stake. While she was inflamed a white man stepped from the crowd, slit her stomach with his pocket knife, and when the fetus fell to the ground, he stomped it and said "One less ******". Thousands of curbside spectators slapped their knees as they laughed in amusement.
Mary's crime: She had disputed the word of a white man that falsely accused her husband of murdering a white man in a dispute over money owed him by the white man. A shoot out ensued. The white man died in what otherwise was a fair fight. For her protest after they lynched her husband before her eyes, they tied her to a tree, poured gas on her, oil and set her on fire. After she writhed silently in the flames in defiance, she was doused a second time as white children danced and chanted in song and rhyme.
I'm so confused right now.
My main point is that black people won't get anywhere until we get a stable economic base.
Never forget Black Wall Street.
Thread by @matthewstoller: "1. I see that is trending. There's a reason that the massacre of black independent business people in 1921 in Tulsa, Oklaho […]" #BlackWallStreet
1. I see that #BlackWallStreet is trending. There's a reason that the massacre of black independent business people in 1921 in Tulsa, Oklahoma isn't widely known. It's because history matters, and so does covering it up. The late 1910s/1920s were a decade of near-fascism.
2. Just six years earlier, the first movie blockbuster, Birth of a Nation, came out. Birth of a Nation portrayed Lost Cause history, a fake neo-confederate view of history invented by plutocrats to demonize multi-racial Reconstruction era governments.
3. Lost Cause history was invented in the 1870s and 1880s at Johns Hopkins and Columbia University, it was designed to ridicule the idea of black equality, and support the emergence of a "new South" designed around cheap labor organized by Northern monopoly capital.
4. For thirty years after the Civil War, American political leaders debated the "Negro problem." In 1895, southern racial oligarchs and Northern monopolists cut a deal based on Lost Cause history. This deal became known as Jim Crow.
5. Booker T. Washington, a conservative black leader and the most important black leader since Frederick Douglass, accepted this deal in a speech known as the Atlanta Compromise. Importantly, Washington *accepted* Lost Cause history.
6. Washington fought for the best deal he thought he could get. Economic rights as farmers and industrial workers, 'industrial education,' in return for foregoing the vote and political power. John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie then lavishly funded Tuskegee.
7. Let's be 100% clear about something. The Jim Crow regime was fascism. Straightforward. When people say 'it can't happen here,' yes, it can. And it did. Jim Crow was a terror-based economic regime.
8. Much of the new legal apartheid system and its violent extra-legal terrorist enforcement mechanisms were, as economist @drlisadcook shows, targeted at black economic power. She traces the collapse of black patents and newspapers after 1896 and 1900. EconPapers: Violence and economic activity: evidence from African American patents, 1870–1940
9. Though blacks bore the brunt of the violence, Jim Crow was a fascist regime designed to subjugate both poor whites and blacks to planters. And it did. Large numbers of poor whites were stripped of the vote throughout the South after Jim Crow. Blacks faced horrific violence.
10. W.E.B. Dubois and a host of progressives - both black and white - formed the NAACP in 1911 to repudiate Booker T. Washington's framework and argue for social equality. The organization got its first major boost protecting Birth of a Nation.
11. Race relations are intimately tied up with the rise of corporate America. The great election of 1896, where the question was J.P. Morgan's power to structure corporate goliaths, happened the same year as Plessy. Albion Tourge was the lawyer for Plessy, and an anti-monopolist.
12. From 1901-1920, Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson promised reform, great reform. New Nationalism, New Freedom. Idealism. The Great War shattered all of these illusions of progress. The Tulsa massacre of #BlackWallStreet in 1921 was the nadir of American democracy.
13. The Federal Reserve was intimately involved, both unleashing a massive boom in 1919. In late 1919 and early 1920, inflation was running at 25 percent annually. Then it hiked rates to crush the economy. Corporate America attacked labor viciously at this moment.
14. Said one Treasury official, “If a panic in New York should break out, he would be glad of it.” Prices fell at the fastest rate ever measured. Unemployment went from 4% in 1920 to 12% in 1921, industrial production dropped by a quarter, and over five hundred banks failed.
15. U.S. Steel refused to recognize a union. 365,000 workers went on strike. To contain them, the company used 25,000 private security guards in Pennsylvania alone, with martial law in the steel town of Gary, Indiana. Twenty people died in the strike.
16. An agricultural depression induced a boom in the KKK, which was a *for-profit Amway style corporation* that sold robes. The mayors of Portland Maine and Portland Oregon were both KKK.
The Tulsa massacre of #BlackWallStreet was part of this wave of violence and fascism.
17. This history is hidden from us. It isn't just the racism, it's also the *deal* of Jim Crow underpinning all of it, an economic deal about who has power and who can harm who. Who governs? We the people? Or a small group? Who controls history matters.
18. Du Bois:
"For a brief period—for the seven mystic years that stretched between Johnson's "Swing round the Circle" to the Panic of 1873, the majority of thinking Americans of the North believed in the equal manhood of Negroes… They simply recognized black folk as men…"
19. Du Bois discussed the depression of 1873.
"Then came in 1873-76 sudden and complete disillusion not at Negroes but at the world—at business, at work, at religion, at art. A bitter protest of Southern property reenforced Northern reaction... and while after long years the American world recovered in most matters, it has never yet quite understood why it could ever have thought that black men were altogether human."
He wrote this in 1935 to reclaim our history. Because Du Bois knew history matters.
1. I see that #BlackWallStreet is trending. There's a reason that the massacre of black independent business people in 1921 in Tulsa, Oklahoma isn't widely known. It's because history matters, and so does covering it up. The late 1910s/1920s were a decade of near-fascism.
2. Just six years earlier, the first movie blockbuster, Birth of a Nation, came out. Birth of a Nation portrayed Lost Cause history, a fake neo-confederate view of history invented by plutocrats to demonize multi-racial Reconstruction era governments.
3. Lost Cause history was invented in the 1870s and 1880s at Johns Hopkins and Columbia University, it was designed to ridicule the idea of black equality, and support the emergence of a "new South" designed around cheap labor organized by Northern monopoly capital.
4. For thirty years after the Civil War, American political leaders debated the "Negro problem." In 1895, southern racial oligarchs and Northern monopolists cut a deal based on Lost Cause history. This deal became known as Jim Crow.
5. Booker T. Washington, a conservative black leader and the most important black leader since Frederick Douglass, accepted this deal in a speech known as the Atlanta Compromise. Importantly, Washington *accepted* Lost Cause history.
6. Washington fought for the best deal he thought he could get. Economic rights as farmers and industrial workers, 'industrial education,' in return for foregoing the vote and political power. John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie then lavishly funded Tuskegee.
7. Let's be 100% clear about something. The Jim Crow regime was fascism. Straightforward. When people say 'it can't happen here,' yes, it can. And it did. Jim Crow was a terror-based economic regime.
8. Much of the new legal apartheid system and its violent extra-legal terrorist enforcement mechanisms were, as economist @drlisadcook shows, targeted at black economic power. She traces the collapse of black patents and newspapers after 1896 and 1900. EconPapers: Violence and economic activity: evidence from African American patents, 1870–1940
9. Though blacks bore the brunt of the violence, Jim Crow was a fascist regime designed to subjugate both poor whites and blacks to planters. And it did. Large numbers of poor whites were stripped of the vote throughout the South after Jim Crow. Blacks faced horrific violence.
10. W.E.B. Dubois and a host of progressives - both black and white - formed the NAACP in 1911 to repudiate Booker T. Washington's framework and argue for social equality. The organization got its first major boost protecting Birth of a Nation.
11. Race relations are intimately tied up with the rise of corporate America. The great election of 1896, where the question was J.P. Morgan's power to structure corporate goliaths, happened the same year as Plessy. Albion Tourge was the lawyer for Plessy, and an anti-monopolist.
12. From 1901-1920, Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson promised reform, great reform. New Nationalism, New Freedom. Idealism. The Great War shattered all of these illusions of progress. The Tulsa massacre of #BlackWallStreet in 1921 was the nadir of American democracy.
13. The Federal Reserve was intimately involved, both unleashing a massive boom in 1919. In late 1919 and early 1920, inflation was running at 25 percent annually. Then it hiked rates to crush the economy. Corporate America attacked labor viciously at this moment.
14. Said one Treasury official, “If a panic in New York should break out, he would be glad of it.” Prices fell at the fastest rate ever measured. Unemployment went from 4% in 1920 to 12% in 1921, industrial production dropped by a quarter, and over five hundred banks failed.
15. U.S. Steel refused to recognize a union. 365,000 workers went on strike. To contain them, the company used 25,000 private security guards in Pennsylvania alone, with martial law in the steel town of Gary, Indiana. Twenty people died in the strike.
16. An agricultural depression induced a boom in the KKK, which was a *for-profit Amway style corporation* that sold robes. The mayors of Portland Maine and Portland Oregon were both KKK.
The Tulsa massacre of #BlackWallStreet was part of this wave of violence and fascism.
17. This history is hidden from us. It isn't just the racism, it's also the *deal* of Jim Crow underpinning all of it, an economic deal about who has power and who can harm who. Who governs? We the people? Or a small group? Who controls history matters.
18. Du Bois:
"For a brief period—for the seven mystic years that stretched between Johnson's "Swing round the Circle" to the Panic of 1873, the majority of thinking Americans of the North believed in the equal manhood of Negroes… They simply recognized black folk as men…"
19. Du Bois discussed the depression of 1873.
"Then came in 1873-76 sudden and complete disillusion not at Negroes but at the world—at business, at work, at religion, at art. A bitter protest of Southern property reenforced Northern reaction... and while after long years the American world recovered in most matters, it has never yet quite understood why it could ever have thought that black men were altogether human."
He wrote this in 1935 to reclaim our history. Because Du Bois knew history matters.
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