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OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
What does everyone think about survivor series 98? I got fond memories of it and would honestly like to see another 'deadly games' style tournament for the title
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
And I just remembered that they got AZ on the ppv theme song @1:53
One of the worst PPVs of all time, along with Spring Stampede 2000, uncoincidentally both Russo booked whole show tournament full of short shytty matches with shytty finishes.
I have fond memories of it.
But I also attended the RAW the weeks before the show. Also, it marked the beginning of the Rock's title run and the callback to the previous years Screw Job with Bret. Nobody saw the heel turn from Rock coming, I was at the show where he Rock Bottom'd Vince.
100% of Everyone thought Austin was winning, and he didn't even make the final match.
Tons of matches on the card, and they were all get in & get out quick matches. Which IMO is something WWE needs to do more.
Then the following night with the match with Austin/Rock, one of the livest RAW crowds ever. And Taker hiting Austin with the shovel.
I havent watched the whole show in it's entirety on the Network, but I'm sure the back half of it still holds up
Boss Man put that work in that night.
The show is like a microcosm of Russo's run.
Terrible wrestling, no clean finishes, constant fukkery, swerves and heel turns, Austin, Vince, Rock and Foley outshining everything else.
I love the show but WWF's product after this would quickly nose dive and most of 1999 is terrible. Things only improved once Russo left and then 2000 became the undisputed GOAT year for WWF.
The show is like a microcosm of Russo's run.
Terrible wrestling, no clean finishes, constant fukkery, swerves and heel turns, Austin, Vince, Rock and Foley outshining everything else.
I love the show but WWF's product after this would quickly nose dive and most of 1999 is terrible. Things only improved once Russo left and then 2000 became the undisputed GOAT year for WWF.
LastManStanding
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suddenly tonight on the Network there is a "2" next to the main WWE logo at the bottom right of the screen
guessing this is the beginning phase of their dumb tier program? just speculation, but WWE1 will likely be the free version, WWE2 will be the main $9.99 version, and WWE3 will be the extra version maybe?
either way, they better not take away content that the main $9.99 subscribers have been paying for.
guessing this is the beginning phase of their dumb tier program? just speculation, but WWE1 will likely be the free version, WWE2 will be the main $9.99 version, and WWE3 will be the extra version maybe?
either way, they better not take away content that the main $9.99 subscribers have been paying for.
threattonature
Veteran
Personification of EVIL? I say personification of BOREDOM.
The only thing scary about you two..is the amount of tv time you get which causes the people to pick up the remote and change the channel..
Undertaker really thought he had one with that boring ass promo lol. There's a reason he flipped out on Jericho backstage for killing that shytty promo. That's why it was always funny how Undertaker was a decider on who could work considering how bad he was around that period.
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
I always liked Steve Blackman and how hed incorporate his martial arts into his matches
After digging through for Kanyon Cutters, I've actually been watching WCW 2001 because it turns out I really never finished it off and don't remember any of it (I know I had seen Sin before, but I don't think I had seen past that).
I'm struck by a couple of things:
Lex Luger is the most fascinatingly bad performer. I would say whatever the fukk he was doing by 2001 had really started in 1999, but it's like he's completely forgotten how to do anything involved with the one job he's had for 15 years. Or, more likely, he really did not give a single fukk and had no fear that it would impact him negatively in any way. In the ring, he's at his absolute worst (which was never very good to begin with), not even attempting to make his offense look good, looks like he can't/won't run the ropes, bumps like he was never trained. His promos are at his absolute worst (also never very good to begin with) with constant bumbling, screwing up lines, and overall just seeming confused when on screen. But to me it's really his backstage stuff that stands out because he's constantly missing his cues, always looking directly into the camera/at the director, always either drops character before the segment ends or stands around staring at the crew waiting for a cut. It's hard to look away from, and I can't tell if its from actual entertainment or the train wreck aspect.
Chavo was really in his bag, probably the most consistently good in ring performer in the company. Granted, part of this is that many of the better cruiserweights and mid card guys had jumped to WWE or were let go, but he also stepped it up to try to fill the talent gap that was left. Rey, Kidman, Lance Storm weren't as consistently good as Chavo at that time.
Nothing about the main event scene or Ric Flair's behavior as CEO makes any sense and everyone on screen is frequently confused at what the fukk is going on during his segments. From the months long ruse with Scott Steiner to pushing all the big names out so he can "gain control of WCW" despite already being the CEO and going out of his way to remove reasons for fans to watch, to the week to week fluctuation of what the commissioner vs CEO relationship is...it's as messy as any period in the main event scene for WCW. The announcers on every show are just baffled at these segments, openly asking why the fukk Flair is booking this or that and trying to justify why it might make sense when Flair goes off on tangents and accidentally books the wrong things or doesn't book them at all and has to do it later in a quick backstage segment right before a match.
I'm struck by a couple of things:
Lex Luger is the most fascinatingly bad performer. I would say whatever the fukk he was doing by 2001 had really started in 1999, but it's like he's completely forgotten how to do anything involved with the one job he's had for 15 years. Or, more likely, he really did not give a single fukk and had no fear that it would impact him negatively in any way. In the ring, he's at his absolute worst (which was never very good to begin with), not even attempting to make his offense look good, looks like he can't/won't run the ropes, bumps like he was never trained. His promos are at his absolute worst (also never very good to begin with) with constant bumbling, screwing up lines, and overall just seeming confused when on screen. But to me it's really his backstage stuff that stands out because he's constantly missing his cues, always looking directly into the camera/at the director, always either drops character before the segment ends or stands around staring at the crew waiting for a cut. It's hard to look away from, and I can't tell if its from actual entertainment or the train wreck aspect.
Chavo was really in his bag, probably the most consistently good in ring performer in the company. Granted, part of this is that many of the better cruiserweights and mid card guys had jumped to WWE or were let go, but he also stepped it up to try to fill the talent gap that was left. Rey, Kidman, Lance Storm weren't as consistently good as Chavo at that time.
Nothing about the main event scene or Ric Flair's behavior as CEO makes any sense and everyone on screen is frequently confused at what the fukk is going on during his segments. From the months long ruse with Scott Steiner to pushing all the big names out so he can "gain control of WCW" despite already being the CEO and going out of his way to remove reasons for fans to watch, to the week to week fluctuation of what the commissioner vs CEO relationship is...it's as messy as any period in the main event scene for WCW. The announcers on every show are just baffled at these segments, openly asking why the fukk Flair is booking this or that and trying to justify why it might make sense when Flair goes off on tangents and accidentally books the wrong things or doesn't book them at all and has to do it later in a quick backstage segment right before a match.
There's a dark match of Kofi vs....Steve Corino. In 2007. The fukk? Kofi also has an even more offensively stereotypical "Jamaican" entrance theme that isn't SOS. And my god does Corino look like absolute shyt.