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OmegaK2099
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They dont have the NWA main event uploaded?
Man, Vince was going hard at Crockett in 1984 
Gets Piper AND Valentine at the start of the year, coming off the heels of them being in the 1A feud (arguable the TOP feud since Harley vs Flair wasn't exclusive just to JCP area)
Right before Starrcade 1984, he gets Barry Windham and Mike Rotunda to jump. In the late summer months, JCP made a big deal out of signing Barry, constantly talking him up to be the heir apparent and next big thing, having the most lucrative contract in sports history. He was basically getting the Magnum TA push with 60 second squashes and whatnot. This lasted all of 2 months before Vince got him Rotunda similar was getting a ton of TV time, teaming with Dusty, getting various title shots....and Vince got him a few weeks later.
This was after he got tired of splitting Sarge with Crockett and got him to leave at the start of the year, and taking Blackjack Mulligan RIGHT after they made a huge deal out of Flair going to Blackjack's swamp to ask him for help against Tully and Wahoo. JCP ended up getting like 3 weeks of matches out of Blackjack
He also got Bob Orton Jr., the Brisco Brothers, and a few random odds and ends that meant nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if he made a play for Wahoo or Flair during the year.
Gets Piper AND Valentine at the start of the year, coming off the heels of them being in the 1A feud (arguable the TOP feud since Harley vs Flair wasn't exclusive just to JCP area)
Right before Starrcade 1984, he gets Barry Windham and Mike Rotunda to jump. In the late summer months, JCP made a big deal out of signing Barry, constantly talking him up to be the heir apparent and next big thing, having the most lucrative contract in sports history. He was basically getting the Magnum TA push with 60 second squashes and whatnot. This lasted all of 2 months before Vince got him
Rotunda similar was getting a ton of TV time, teaming with Dusty, getting various title shots....and Vince got him a few weeks later.This was after he got tired of splitting Sarge with Crockett and got him to leave at the start of the year, and taking Blackjack Mulligan RIGHT after they made a huge deal out of Flair going to Blackjack's swamp to ask him for help against Tully and Wahoo. JCP ended up getting like 3 weeks of matches out of Blackjack
He also got Bob Orton Jr., the Brisco Brothers, and a few random odds and ends that meant nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if he made a play for Wahoo or Flair during the year.The build to Starrcade 84 is 
. Most matches in 1983 had multiple months of build, a year+ for Piper/Valentine and Flair/Race. 1984's comes around, they start hyping it 3-4 months in advance, but no matches are made until a month out. Flair vs Dusty has no build or story at all. For the prior few months, Flair was feuding with Wahoo and Tully, even teaming with Dusty against them a few times. They had some matches in Florida, but none that were mentioned on Crockett TV. Dusty was primarily a tag wrestler for most of the summer and fall, and was feuding with the Koloffs right around the time the title match was announced, as far as winning the world tag team titles with Manny Fernandez I think the week of the announcement. Dusty wasn't going after the world title, and they certainly didn't have any issue worthy of the million dollar prize. Again, they had teamed up in the early Fall, Flair was a face in JCP for basically the whole year.
Once it got announced at a big rally, the build for the rest of the month is almost entirely centered around Dusty being pissy that Flair showed him up and left before he got to finish his promo.
Back in the Summer, Wahoo won the US title off of Steamboat when Tully interfered and Wahoo capitalized and turned heel, forming their pairing. Because of the way the title changed hands (a Tully chair shot), the title was held up for what seemed like months, Steamboat vanished, and Wahoo eventually won the tournament. The next time we see Steamboat, in late October/early November, it's in an angle at his gym where JJ Dillon and the Long Riders went to train and made a mess and attacked his brother. So Steamboat returns to TV to confront them and then....a week before Starrcade is booked in a TV title match against Tully. The same show announces Wahoo defending his US Championship against Superstar Billy Graham, completely out of the blue.
In fact, the majority of the card was announced in the 2 weeks before the show. At least one match got announced that didn't happen (American Starship vs Zambuie Express in a body slam elimination match). Now, I'll grant you that the loss of Rotunda and Windham probably had something to do with this, as Windham vs Tully and Rotunda vs Ron Bass were probably going to happen, but even those didn't start any build until a few weeks before the show. Instead you got a returning dikk Slater (who seemed to be starting a program with Tully) against Bass and Manny Fernandez against Bart, meaning neither the World (held by Dusty and Manny) nor Mid Atlantic (held by Bart/Bass) titles were on the card.
. Most matches in 1983 had multiple months of build, a year+ for Piper/Valentine and Flair/Race. 1984's comes around, they start hyping it 3-4 months in advance, but no matches are made until a month out. Flair vs Dusty has no build or story at all. For the prior few months, Flair was feuding with Wahoo and Tully, even teaming with Dusty against them a few times. They had some matches in Florida, but none that were mentioned on Crockett TV. Dusty was primarily a tag wrestler for most of the summer and fall, and was feuding with the Koloffs right around the time the title match was announced, as far as winning the world tag team titles with Manny Fernandez I think the week of the announcement. Dusty wasn't going after the world title, and they certainly didn't have any issue worthy of the million dollar prize. Again, they had teamed up in the early Fall, Flair was a face in JCP for basically the whole year.Once it got announced at a big rally, the build for the rest of the month is almost entirely centered around Dusty being pissy that Flair showed him up and left before he got to finish his promo.
Back in the Summer, Wahoo won the US title off of Steamboat when Tully interfered and Wahoo capitalized and turned heel, forming their pairing. Because of the way the title changed hands (a Tully chair shot), the title was held up for what seemed like months, Steamboat vanished, and Wahoo eventually won the tournament. The next time we see Steamboat, in late October/early November, it's in an angle at his gym where JJ Dillon and the Long Riders went to train and made a mess and attacked his brother. So Steamboat returns to TV to confront them and then....a week before Starrcade is booked in a TV title match against Tully. The same show announces Wahoo defending his US Championship against Superstar Billy Graham, completely out of the blue.
In fact, the majority of the card was announced in the 2 weeks before the show. At least one match got announced that didn't happen (American Starship vs Zambuie Express in a body slam elimination match). Now, I'll grant you that the loss of Rotunda and Windham probably had something to do with this, as Windham vs Tully and Rotunda vs Ron Bass were probably going to happen, but even those didn't start any build until a few weeks before the show. Instead you got a returning dikk Slater (who seemed to be starting a program with Tully) against Bass and Manny Fernandez against Bart, meaning neither the World (held by Dusty and Manny) nor Mid Atlantic (held by Bart/Bass) titles were on the card.
Man, Vince was going hard at Crockett in 1984
Gets Piper AND Valentine at the start of the year, coming off the heels of them being in the 1A feud (arguable the TOP feud since Harley vs Flair wasn't exclusive just to JCP area)
Right before Starrcade 1984, he gets Barry Windham and Mike Rotunda to jump. In the late summer months, JCP made a big deal out of signing Barry, constantly talking him up to be the heir apparent and next big thing, having the most lucrative contract in sports history. He was basically getting the Magnum TA push with 60 second squashes and whatnot. This lasted all of 2 months before Vince got him
This was after he got tired of splitting Sarge with Crockett and got him to leave at the start of the year, and taking Blackjack Mulligan RIGHT after they made a huge deal out of Flair going to Blackjack's swamp to ask him for help against Tully and Wahoo. JCP ended up getting like 3 weeks of matches out of Blackjack
Then pulled Steamboat just to kick off '85
Starrcade 1984:
Garbage show all around. From the very jump the announcer gets his cue wrong multiple times, Gordon Solie's ear piece is messed up all night so he's constantly doing deer in headlights stalling while getting directions from the truck, the same thing happens to Tony multiple times in the back, the matches are dull as can be with wonky or outta nowhere finishes the whole night. The very first match has a title change and the wrong guy got announced as the winner
Even Tully vs Steamboat wasn't anything special. Then the main event ends in a bullshyt finish (a blood stoppage because Joe Frazier was inexperienced as a pro wrestling referee and didn't realize it wasn't as serious as it would be in boxing) that led to Dusty promising revenge on Smokin' Joe which of course never happened. Ric spends most of 1985 touring and is rarely in the Mid Atlantic area, so Dusty doesn't get his revenge until Starrcade 1985...which again ends in a bullshyt finish
Garbage show all around. From the very jump the announcer gets his cue wrong multiple times, Gordon Solie's ear piece is messed up all night so he's constantly doing deer in headlights stalling while getting directions from the truck, the same thing happens to Tony multiple times in the back, the matches are dull as can be with wonky or outta nowhere finishes the whole night. The very first match has a title change and the wrong guy got announced as the winner
Even Tully vs Steamboat wasn't anything special. Then the main event ends in a bullshyt finish (a blood stoppage because Joe Frazier was inexperienced as a pro wrestling referee and didn't realize it wasn't as serious as it would be in boxing) that led to Dusty promising revenge on Smokin' Joe which of course never happened. Ric spends most of 1985 touring and is rarely in the Mid Atlantic area, so Dusty doesn't get his revenge until Starrcade 1985...which again ends in a bullshyt finish
Watching the corporate ministry storyline playout
Not for nothing but time stood still for a while with Linda. While she always had a granny look (from my time watching) she didnt really age til well after the ruthless aggression era.
Not for nothing but time stood still for a while with Linda. While she always had a granny look (from my time watching) she didnt really age til well after the ruthless aggression era.
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
You think they should have kept Vince face or do you think the whole higher power angle turning him heel again was the way to go?
I thought it sucked since Vince wound up turning face again toward the end of the year to feud with DX and triple h
Should have been Ted Dibiase
Jack was perfect for it but he was heavy on drugs and wouldn’t have worked. Ted would have been the perfect bridge between church and corporate gimmicks and could have been kayfabed as having more money then the McMahon’s and how he always resented Austin and The Undertsker was his Darty Vader
these beaver cleavage vignettes are 
"Can't be walking around with a split beaver"
"when it comes to working on knees, mama is the best
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"Can't be walking around with a split beaver"
"when it comes to working on knees, mama is the best
"God damn the UK Rampage 1993 show is the epitome of struggle city
Fatu vs Brian Knobs that went 10 minutes that felt like 45
Doink vs Kamala in what was as terrible as you'd imagine it to be
Mr. Perfect vs Samu which was actually pretty solid
Bob Backlund vs Damien Demento
Typhoon vs Brooklyn Brawler in a 10 minute match
Crush vs HBK which was fine but weirdly short, the only title match on the show and it was shorter than half the matches and had a fukk finish
Lex Luger vs Jim Duggan to main event
And a special interview with Yokozuna and Fuji. This is a week after WM 9. No Hogan, no Bret, no Undertaker, no Steiners, Yoko but only for an interview and dark match, no Macho Man, no Razor, no Bam Bam, no Tatanka
Compare it to the 1992 version which had HBK vs Macho in legit one of the best WWF matches of the decade and either's career, a good Bret vs Martel match, Sid vs Taker that was bad but at least had the star power for it
Fatu vs Brian Knobs that went 10 minutes that felt like 45
Doink vs Kamala in what was as terrible as you'd imagine it to be
Mr. Perfect vs Samu which was actually pretty solid
Bob Backlund vs Damien Demento
Typhoon vs Brooklyn Brawler in a 10 minute match
Crush vs HBK which was fine but weirdly short, the only title match on the show and it was shorter than half the matches and had a fukk finish
Lex Luger vs Jim Duggan to main event
And a special interview with Yokozuna and Fuji. This is a week after WM 9. No Hogan, no Bret, no Undertaker, no Steiners, Yoko but only for an interview and dark match, no Macho Man, no Razor, no Bam Bam, no Tatanka
Compare it to the 1992 version which had HBK vs Macho in legit one of the best WWF matches of the decade and either's career, a good Bret vs Martel match, Sid vs Taker that was
bad but at least had the star power for it