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Nah... that brand split ran its course. 3 hour Raws are exhausting most of the time, but when people were saying to end the brand split, it was inevitable that was what they would've had to do for it to work. Now everybody's saying do a brand split again.

But watching these shows does remind me that as wrestling fans, a lot of us are spoiled now. We grew up watching job matches and occasionally a SNME or Clash of Champions, and thoroughly enjoyed just getting to see stars vs. stars. Then we got to see it every week. Then we got to see it on two shows per week from both companies, and a PPV every month. So now we're harder to impress cause we see shyt every week that we used to only get every couple months. I'm not sayin' I mind :whoa: but it is funny how now we :rudy: at the thought of a match like Cena/Taker, but once marked out for shyt like Hacksaw Duggan vs Andre :russ:

yeah, it ran it's course back then. But it was necessary b/c of the influx of WCW talent. It's kinda the same thing now with NXT. They're calling ppl up who are established stars in NXT, and then they get buried in mediocrity on the main roster b/c there's too many ppl.

They keep signing all these ppl and they're going to get siphoned into mediocrity of one set of storylines. Plus Smackdown is meaningless at this point, nothing develops on there. I hear ur point, but they need to make full use of their time if they're going to have a farm-system. So to me, you need to have two sets of storylines going.
 

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yeah, it ran it's course back then. But it was necessary b/c of the influx of WCW talent. It's kinda the same thing now with NXT. They're calling ppl up who are established stars in NXT, and then they get buried in mediocrity on the main roster b/c there's too many ppl.

They keep signing all these ppl and they're going to get siphoned into mediocrity of one set of storylines. Plus Smackdown is meaningless at this point, nothing develops on there. I hear ur point, but they need to make full use of their time if they're going to have a farm-system. So to me, you need to have two sets of storylines going.

Biggest difference is that back when the Brand split was good for WWE, they had Rock, Austin, Michaels, HHH, Hogan, Taker, Lesnar, Goldberg, Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho, RVD, Booker, Kane, Show, Edge, Mysterio, a whole cruiserweight division, etc... the roster was extremely too deep for all of them to co-exist on one 2-hour show and bring new people in. By the time they ended it in 2011, the roster was a lot lighter. The roster's still not that deep. If they split the rosters right now, there'd probably be a lot of people higher on the card than they should be, and more struggle every week than they already have. I agree with your point about the NXT guys comin' up... but it's way more open than it used to be- there's room for the best of them to break through, with or without a split. Back then, the split was the only reason some of the newer dudes got to break through- Cena, Orton, Batista, Benjamin, etc. wouldn't have stood a chance if everybody was on one brand. But I'm pretty confident that Balor could make a breakthrough if he debuted on TV next week, just like Owens did, just like Rusev did, just like The Shield did, just like the Wyatts did. Sure you'll get a Tyler Breeze or Ascension that doesn't cut it, but that comes with it.
 

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Nah... that brand split ran its course. 3 hour Raws are exhausting most of the time, but when people were saying to end the brand split, it was inevitable that was what they would've had to do for it to work. Now everybody's saying do a brand split again.

But watching these shows does remind me that as wrestling fans, a lot of us are spoiled now. We grew up watching job matches and occasionally a SNME or Clash of Champions, and thoroughly enjoyed just getting to see stars vs. stars. Then we got to see it every week. Then we got to see it on two shows per week from both companies, and a PPV every month. So now we're harder to impress cause we see shyt every week that we used to only get every couple months. I'm not sayin' I mind :whoa: but it is funny how now we :rudy: at the thought of a match like Cena/Taker, but once marked out for shyt like Hacksaw Duggan vs Andre :russ:
Clash of the Champions is probably my favorite wrestling event

When i first got the network thats all i was watching
 

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The Steiner Bros in the WWE :wow:

:salute: kinda sad it didn't go the distance. Not sure what happened but they coulda easily been one of the top teams there for a few years. There had to be some kinda falling-out with them and Vince between late-'93 and '94, cause before you knew it, they weren't even on the Mania X card and they were still on the roster. :snoop:
 

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:salute: kinda sad it didn't go the distance. Not sure what happened but they coulda easily been one of the top teams there for a few years. There had to be some kinda falling-out with them and Vince between late-'93 and '94, cause before you knew it, they weren't even on the Mania X card and they were still on the roster. :snoop:
Im pretty sure he mentions what happened here but I forget

Good interview nonetheless
 

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Biggest difference is that back when the Brand split was good for WWE, they had Rock, Austin, Michaels, HHH, Hogan, Taker, Lesnar, Goldberg, Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho, RVD, Booker, Kane, Show, Edge, Mysterio, a whole cruiserweight division, etc... the roster was extremely too deep for all of them to co-exist on one 2-hour show and bring new people in. By the time they ended it in 2011, the roster was a lot lighter. The roster's still not that deep. If they split the rosters right now, there'd probably be a lot of people higher on the card than they should be, and more struggle every week than they already have. I agree with your point about the NXT guys comin' up... but it's way more open than it used to be- there's room for the best of them to break through, with or without a split. Back then, the split was the only reason some of the newer dudes got to break through- Cena, Orton, Batista, Benjamin, etc. wouldn't have stood a chance if everybody was on one brand. But I'm pretty confident that Balor could make a breakthrough if he debuted on TV next week, just like Owens did, just like Rusev did, just like The Shield did, just like the Wyatts did. Sure you'll get a Tyler Breeze or Ascension that doesn't cut it, but that comes with it.

I don't know breh. I think it's needed.

Fin Balor would get lost in the shuffle IMO. Once Rollins comes back, Cena comes back, Reigns is around Brock occasionally. You still got Kevin Owens as a semi-main event guy if pushed properly, Ambrose maybe. Balor is main event quality in terms of star power, but he'd likely be relegated to IC status b/c there's too many guys at the top.

But take Rollins and put him on SD and put Balor over there, and now you have room to breathe. Same wit the Divas. Bayley, Charlotte, Sasha, Nikki can't all co-exist really and be able to keep fan interest. They won't get enogh TV time. Sasha can't even get on RAW for 2 weeks in a row right now.

that's why a split is needed for me personally.
 

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I don't know breh. I think it's needed.

Fin Balor would get lost in the shuffle IMO. Once Rollins comes back, Cena comes back, Reigns is around Brock occasionally. You still got Kevin Owens as a semi-main event guy if pushed properly, Ambrose maybe. Balor is main event quality in terms of star power, but he'd likely be relegated to IC status b/c there's too many guys at the top.

But take Rollins and put him on SD and put Balor over there, and now you have room to breathe. Same wit the Divas. Bayley, Charlotte, Sasha, Nikki can't all co-exist really and be able to keep fan interest. They won't get enogh TV time. Sasha can't even get on RAW for 2 weeks in a row right now.

that's why a split is needed for me personally.

Nah.. because Balor has all the makings of a star and someone who'd be able to break thru. I'm not saying it'll be easy, I'm not saying it'd happen overnight. But Balor has future top star written all over him. Just cause he might not be the main event of Mania 33 doesn't mean he couldn't work his way toward 34 or 35. I don't see him as a guy who only gets over a lil' bit and ends up midcarding for years at a time. He has it.
 

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It'd be dope if the E Network started sort of a wrestling version of 'Unsung'... an hour-long doc of great wrestlers who weren't headlining Manias or Starrcades, but made impact or were influential/popular. Do a new season every 6 months or so, with 8 episodes each. Imagine the classicness, brehs.

Season 1 could be like:
The Steiner Brothers
Ted DiBiase
Arn Anderson
Junkyard Dog
Mil Mascaras
The Iron Sheik
Rick Rude
Magnum T.A.

Ol'heads would be like :lawd:



 

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1999 Nitro, its crazy watching this and then remembering Piper/Savage/Benoit all gone.

Wasn't a fan of tweener page at the time, but he had the fans lit :ehh:

Rey Mysterio without the mask, over as fukk :whoo:
 

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This Juve/Rey/Psychosis/Blitzreig fatal 4 way is NUTS :wow:
 
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