TSC Evaluation #68: Dolph Ziggler

[CM_Burns]

Without AJ Lee, Dolph Ziggler ain't sh1t- R=G 2012
I rest my case- R=G 2017

He's a low 3. What a lazy, boring overrated performer. Stop emulating and start getting the job done.

He emulates, but it's just personal dislike to call him out for it. Do you call out Bobby Roode? He's derivative as fukk and considered good (I like him too), but no one calls him out for it because he's inoffensive.

 

[R=G]

He emulates, but it's just personal dislike to call him out for it. Do you call out Bobby Roode? He's derivative as fukk and considered good (I like him too), but no one calls him out for it because he's inoffensive.

I'v been said that Roode rips off Rude and that old Cripple H "last word" type shyt. He's not running the show..so he don't matter.

 

[hazardous]

5. Scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one

Beefcake coming up too?

 

[TOAD99]

I’ll give him a 6. Dude at one point was one of the most over stars on the roster.

He actually has a ton of memorable moments, which cannot be said for a lot of the current roster. His cash-in

However, he’s gotten really complacent - never improved in the ring and the influx of super talented wrestlers - made him look even more subpar.

He’s had a solid career tho

 

[Ribbs]

Five. I haven't seen someone regress more than I have Dolph. Like he was shyt in the early '10s, swag dripping all over the place when he had Vickie in his corner, made the sleeper somewhat legit but that concussion was the beginning of the end for him. Looking at him now is just sad. The Miz feud was that last real spark he had and he couldn't do anything much after that. Now he's just a carbon copy of HBK, just unoriginal, annoying and doesn't even attempt to be cheeky with it. It's just obvious and poor.

 

[El Cocodrilo]

I had to give him a 5 cause he had all the potential in the world and didnt do shyt except go from being a bargain bin Billy Gunn to a great value HBK.

 

[2CT]

Also I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on a spin-off thread series for tag teams/stables:

i say do em both the same day and start the first week of 2018, get the TSC puters putin'

 

[ManBearPig]

He gets a 6 from me

 

[Nero Christ]

 

[Starboy52]

I had this long ass dissertation typed up on how much of a failure Ziggler is between the regressing as a character, shooting himself in the foot by not shutting the fukk up about where he SHOULD be in the company and generally being replaceable as a decent wrestler/okay seller, and how his best moment of the last 5 years (Survivor Series 2014) was only his moment cause Roman had a hernia...

but he ain't worth it. He only gets half a post and this 5/10 rating.

 

[ÆTHER]

5/10 should have left WWE though. Dolph in a place like ROH or even Impact would have had a lot of leeway and opportunity to grow as a talent. But he chose to stay and he's gotten stale as all hell.

 

[Super Cheech]

Past Ziggler...7...current...5

 

[Slic Ric]

My favorite wrestler outside of Punk in the last 10-15 years not named Flair or Michaels. I'll give him a 7/10 but I know he's made a heel turn on IWC in coming years and has mailed it in himself, but he was absolutely MONEY in his prime. Should have been the Jericho of this generation but Vince and them never had faith in him ever, all of his accomplishments were literally just fan responses and them caving. I may be in the minority, my favorite run of his was late '11-mid '12 with Vickie as the young showoff heel.

Probably the most realistic "narcissistic cocky heel" they had in recent memory, guy was so believable and lowkey kinda ushered in this reality era too with Punk with all the #HEELZIGGLER and all the "marks" comments he made

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

Sell your ass off for everybody, brehs.

Don't be selfish when every successful person in the business has said you need to be selfish sometimes, brehs.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

I don't have much energy to give to Dolph Ziggler when he has been a walking corpse himself for years now. He's a low 7 that could have been on the verge of becoming a 9, especially in a post-09 WWE era. At this point, he's pretty much a 6. Sure, the WWE has cut him off at the knees a couple times, but he hasn't helped himself much either, copying the gimmicks of various other better past stars and cutting the same promos for what feels like forever. Dolph had like 3 times he could have been elevated permanently, but through unfortunate events (both cause of himself and the WWE), he became the guy they use to get people they REALLY want to push (who may happen better anyway). Yea I'll just stop here cause I'm as bored talking about Dolph as I was with Orton.