Silkk
Can't Change My Damn Avi :beli:
You ever think that was because the quality and impact of that one was that much better than the others?
You could say the same shyt about Austin in 96 & 97 if thats the case
TSC Evaluation #10: The Ultimate Warrior
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You could say the same shyt about Austin in 96 & 97 if thats the case
Mic work/promos
6 - unintelligible for the most part, you couldn't teach what he did in a promo class, but it got over, and that's the whole point of it.
Personality/gimmicks
10 - one of the GOAT characters/persona in wrestling history and he LIVED IT every single day.
Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds)
7 - don't trip on the number... he's not a 7 as a technical wrestler or anything, obviously his ring skills were very limited, but for the time period and what he was asked to do, he was just fine. His charisma carried him. You didn't need him out there wrestling an hour broadway, that wasn't his job. He has two certified Wrestlemania blassics which is more than say for a lot of guys in the biz.
OVERALL: 8 just based off the strength of the character and charisma. He wasn't the total package, but he had enough of it to be one of the biggest stars ever. There will never be another Ultimate Warrior
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I already have. Real Ass Stone Cold wouldn't have gone over in 1994 like it did in 1996, because the time wasn't right yet.
He's a 7 for me.
nikka you were the biggest Punk stan on SOHH, posting tributes to his mic skills and matches on a daily basis
Or have you conveniently forgotten your "CM HEEEEEEEEL" phase since he took shots at your surrogate father figure Dwayne
I posted tributes to his mic ability? In your dreams but yeah..he deserved props once and then he fell off. You can post as many goofy smilies as u want..youve been bytching and crying about me wising up on a guy who called himself a failure in the industry two Thanksgivings ago for years because u marked out for his Vegas promo like an idiot and as time has proven? He's not missed. CM HEEL couldn't get the job done and history is my back up. Didn't main event WM, couldn't push his wannabe Austin copycat rebellion, and mentally went to $hit in the process.
Dwayne is the king of the world today...people are writing him in as the Presidential nominee alternate. Get fukking real, little boy.
Silkk
Can't Change My Damn Avi :beli:
It didnt get over in 96 like it got over in 98 tho
Man wtf are you arguing in circles for when we're making the same point
Silkk
Can't Change My Damn Avi :beli:
Are we?
In a round about way, yesAre we?
I get @stro point about timing tho'. If Stone Cold was doing his Stone Cold thing in '92/'93, it wouldn't have been as loved because he would've still been the archetype all-black wearing Texas heel that we'd seen for years. His promos would've been strictly heel promos in a time where people were still embracing the happy colorful babyface character. He blew up in '96 because wrestling had changed (largely in part to things outside the WWF like ECW and the NWO), and also because WWF had a bad-acting MF in '94 that got turned into a cornball after he went face. So people wanted to see a bad dude who wasn't corny as shyt that they could cheer for. It was right on time...
Rock in the early 90s probably would've been allowed to be that Maivia character for a lot longer and would've been embraced more, because people weren't sick of that kind of character yet. Probably would've teamed with Tatanka and had the tag titles on some good tribal guy shyt, lol... but a few years later, that character was a perfect springboard for him to turn heel and become a lovable a$$hole. WWF crowds in '93/'94 or so wouldn't have known what to do with that.
Rock in the early 90s probably would've been allowed to be that Maivia character for a lot longer and would've been embraced more, because people weren't sick of that kind of character yet. Probably would've teamed with Tatanka and had the tag titles on some good tribal guy shyt, lol... but a few years later, that character was a perfect springboard for him to turn heel and become a lovable a$$hole. WWF crowds in '93/'94 or so wouldn't have known what to do with that.
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Playaz Eyez
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^Another reason Austin wouldn't have grew as popular earlier with the Stone Cold character is because Bad New Brown was already doing it 
^Another reason Austin wouldn't have grew as popular earlier with the Stone Cold character is because Bad New Brown was already doing it
Bad News didn't get over with that gimmick in the 80s, either. In WWE, at least.
Playaz Eyez
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Wasn't talking about him getting over with it, just mentioning that Bad News Brown was Stone Cold before Stone Cold