Trump praises Putin for smart move that wouldn't have happened if he was in office

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2016 to 2020 Trump was working on pulling the US out of NATO.. Putin was really banking on trump winning in 2020… In hindsight thank god for Covid because that is what literally got trump out the paint :francis:

Yeah, I meant Jan 17 to Jan 21...Trump is a treasonous

And the Fox News talking points was that he would have operated from a position of strength against Putin

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This is why Putin might have hesitated… Trump is a brain dead lunatic who would be more than willing to escalate the conflict over foolish pride.

"If" Putin not going in a few years ago had anything to do with USA, it was because he didn't want to make Trump look bad before Trump won reelection.

More likely it's just irrelevant. He didn't go because he wasn't ready yet or because it was a really fukking stupid move that he wasn't crazy/desperate enough to try before.
 

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"If" Putin not going in a few years ago had anything to do with USA, it was because he didn't want to make Trump look bad before Trump won reelection.

More likely it's just irrelevant. He didn't go because he wasn't ready yet or because it was a really fukking stupid move that he wasn't crazy/desperate enough to try before.

While I agree, strangely enough there wasnt much russian military action during Trumps Presidency compared to every prior President regardless of party.

Ukraine
Crimea
Dagestan
Georgia
Chechneya
Tajikistan

Etc

That's not to say that Trump was keeping them in check but it's an odd coincidence for lack of a better word.
 

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Holy shyt he did that on Newsmax too. :deadrose:

There were three huge points he made:

#1. Trump bytched and complained about sanctions against Russia and didn't want to do any of them.
#2. Trump was ignorant as hell about the region (didn't know where Ukraine was, asked if Finland was part of Russia)
#3. US actions during Trump's presidency had nothing to do with deterring Russia.

Fox News ain't going to ask John Bolton questions about Trump and Russia anytime soon. :heh:
 

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While I agree, strangely enough there wasnt much russian military action during Trumps Presidency compared to every prior President regardless of party.

Ukraine
Crimea
Dagestan
Georgia
Chechneya
Tajikistan

Etc

That's not to say that Trump was keeping them in check but it's an odd coincidence for lack of a better word.

You're throwing weird shyt against the wall. Half the shyt you named is inside Russia, why would Trump's presence have jack shyt to do with what Putin did inside his own borders? Putin could have killed 10,000 people in Chechneya/Dagestan/Crimea and Trump wouldn't even have cared.

If Putin avoided the interior violence just as much as the exterior violence, that suggests that exterior influences weren't the issue.

If we take John Bolton's suggestion, the easy answer is that Putin was building up preparedness to invade Ukraine and didn't want to waste resources on other shyt while he was getting ready.
 
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its not that complicated

trump is putin's bytch, because the russian mafia launders money through trump properties. putin walked trump like a dog in front of the entire world at helsinki

so putin wouldnt have done this with trump in the white house, because it was far more valuable to have his own puppet as US president. why would putin upset that dynamic, over some bum ass part of the ukraine?
 
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Holy shyt he did that on Newsmax too. :deadrose:

There were three huge points he made:

#1. Trump bytched and complained about sanctions against Russia and didn't want to do any of them.
#2. Trump was ignorant as hell about the region (didn't know where Ukraine was, asked if Finland was part of Russia)
#3. US actions during Trump's presidency had nothing to do with deterring Russia.

Fox News ain't going to ask John Bolton questions about Trump and Russia anytime soon. :heh:


Trump is definitely an ignorant uninformed baboon, but there's no way Bolton wasn't exaggerating or purposely taking whatever Trump said out of context with #2.

He'd literally have to have never heard of Finland before for it to be true. That's impossible on any level for Trump to think that on its surface, save for dementia, which says more about Bolton continuing to serve in his administration than it does Trump.
 

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Trump is definitely an ignorant uninformed baboon, but there's no way Bolton wasn't exaggerating or purposely taking whatever Trump said out of context with #2.

He'd literally have to have never heard of Finland before for it to be true. That's impossible on any level for Trump to think that on its surface, save for dementia, which says more about Bolton continue to serve in his administration than it does Trump.

If you read anyone who interacts with him on a regular basis and is honest about it you'd see it is 100% believable. He pays attention to nothing that is not about himself. Tibet is part of China, Greenland is part of Denmark, why can't Finland be part of Russia?

Reading Trump's biographer back in 2016 really helped me understand the root of his ignorance. He talks about how difficult it was to get Trump to pay attention to anything.

The book’s structure would be simple: he’d chronicle half a dozen or so of Trump’s biggest real-estate deals, dispense some bromides about how to succeed in business, and fill in Trump’s life story. For research, he planned to interview Trump on a series of Saturday mornings. The first session didn’t go as planned, however. After Trump gave him a tour of his marble-and-gilt apartment atop Trump Tower—which, to Schwartz, looked unlived-in, like the lobby of a hotel—they began to talk. But the discussion was soon hobbled by what Schwartz regards as one of Trump’s most essential characteristics: “He has no attention span.”

In those days, Schwartz recalls, Trump was generally affable with reporters, offering short, amusingly immodest quotes on demand. Trump had been forthcoming with him during the New York interview, but it hadn’t required much time or deep reflection. For the book, though, Trump needed to provide him with sustained, thoughtful recollections. He asked Trump to describe his childhood in detail. After sitting for only a few minutes in his suit and tie, Trump became impatient and irritable. He looked fidgety, Schwartz recalls, “like a kindergartner who can’t sit still in a classroom.” Even when Schwartz pressed him, Trump seemed to remember almost nothing of his youth, and made it clear that he was bored. Far more quickly than Schwartz had expected, Trump ended the meeting.

Week after week, the pattern repeated itself. Schwartz tried to limit the sessions to smaller increments of time, but Trump’s contributions remained oddly truncated and superficial.

“Trump has been written about a thousand ways from Sunday, but this fundamental aspect of who he is doesn’t seem to be fully understood,” Schwartz told me. “It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focused on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.

But Schwartz believes that Trump’s short attention span has left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.” He said, “That’s why he so prefers TV as his first news source—information comes in easily digestible sound bites.” He added, “I seriously doubt that Trump has ever read a book straight through in his adult life.” During the eighteen months that he observed Trump, Schwartz said, he never saw a book on Trump’s desk, or elsewhere in his office, or in his apartment.
 

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Trump is definitely an ignorant uninformed baboon, but there's no way Bolton wasn't exaggerating or purposely taking whatever Trump said out of context with #2.

He'd literally have to have never heard of Finland before for it to be true. That's impossible on any level for Trump to think that on its surface, save for dementia, which says more about Bolton continuing to serve in his administration than it does Trump.

And it looks like this isn't the first time Bolton has made this accusation - he put it into writing in 2020, and specifically said that Trump asked the question to John Kelly.

Trump asked if Finland is part of Russia, Bolton’s new book claims



And there's plenty of other examples of him doing the same thing:

Told the Baltic states (Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia) that they were the ones in the Balkan war (former Yugoslavia). And his wife Melania is from the former Yugoslavia!



Thinks that Belgium is a city, not a country.



Said in a rally that he's building the wall in New Mexico, Colorado, and Texas.



Thought that Nepal and Bhutan were in India and pronounced them "Nipple" and "Button"



Launched missiles at Syria and then announced that he had bombed Iraq.



Got a call from the South Korean president, then said it was North Korea



Told the Indian Prime Minister that India doesn't border China (India is engaged in a giant border dispute with China)



Said that Ireland was part of the UK in 2018



Said that Ireland was part of the UK again in 2019. He owns a fukking golf course there!



Met with the president of Iraqi Kurdistan and then said he'd been talking to someone from Syria



Did not know that Kyiv was in Ukraine even after he had just sent his ambassador there and his ambassador was literally calling him from the city.



Doesn't understand that England is one of four parts of the United Kingdom, thinks it's just an old name.



Again made the mistake of not knowing what England is.



Congratulated the state of Kansas for the win by the Kansas City (Missouri) Chiefs





He doesn't pay attention to jack shyt. Nothing sticks in his head unless it personally benefits him.
 
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The Bolton memoirs were the first time I heard this referenced actually. And I remember reading that excerpt before about his attention span from his biographer.

I'm not arguing for a second that Trump isn't monumentally stupid for a man of his power and wildly ignorant on world affairs. But to think Finland was a part of Russia? For one, I'd be almost certain that Trump had to have travelled to Finland at least once in his life before he became president. And I'm not saying he even knows where Finland is or anything about the country itself. But to think another country is IN Russia??? :patrice:

I don't see it. I could buy him not knowing whether or not it was a former Soviet state or something along those lines and Bolton stretching that to make him look even more stupid than he already is. But thinking Finland is in Russia wouls be like asking if France was a part of Italy.
 
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