To shed light on the masses in this thread.Why are you in here then?
Just your reminder that this isn’t a political game changer and nobody really cares. Zero impact on the polls.
That's how you have attempted to frame the conversation. The accurate portrayal is Trump has committed impeachable offenses and therefore should be held accountable through the impeachment process.
No I didn't. I said nobody who doesn't already hate Trump such as you and I would be swayed by this. I said it won't move the needle, and I said it has the potential to backfire on Dems. I did not predict that it would.That's how you have attempted to frame the conversation. The accurate portrayal is Trump has committed impeachable offenses and therefore should be held accountable through the impeachment process.
You have attempted to say that impeachment would hurt dems with voters - - it hasn't.
You've then attempted this second argument saying, well it hasn't helped, but that wasn't your initial claim. I would also like to note you've run two permutations of this argument - - one saying dem voters in the midwest don't care (while Ignoring data that shows dem support has grown for impeachment) and the other to say we'll Republicans don't care (despite data showing that independents have increased their support for impeachment).
That argument comes across as either premature or concern trolling for two reasons. One, I mentioned previously, that impeachment is about holding the president accountable through the methods outlined in the constitution and not as a mere exercise in populism. Secondly, your argument ignores historical data of when public opinion changed regarding the impeachment of Nixon and Clinton.
We haven't reached the point of hearing for Trump and they're still waiting on a few court decisions that will have a large affect on how those hearings go and how much of a defense Trump can put up.
With Clinton, he remained popular largely because he was always extremely popular and hiding an affair never really rose to the bar to shift public opinion.
Still, in 2000 Republicans took control of the White House.
People chastise you because you don't know what's going to happen so when you and @Frank Grimes pretend like you do everyone knows you're being dishonest.
If he does nosedive I will be happy to be wrong.
That's how you have attempted to frame the conversation. The accurate portrayal is Trump has committed impeachable offenses and therefore should be held accountable through the impeachment process.
You have attempted to say that impeachment would hurt dems with voters - - it hasn't.
You've then attempted this second argument saying, well it hasn't helped, but that wasn't your initial claim. I would also like to note you've run two permutations of this argument - - one saying dem voters in the midwest don't care (while Ignoring data that shows dem support has grown for impeachment) and the other to say we'll Republicans don't care (despite data showing that independents have increased their support for impeachment).
That argument comes across as either premature or concern trolling for two reasons. One, I mentioned previously, that impeachment is about holding the president accountable through the methods outlined in the constitution and not as a mere exercise in populism. Secondly, your argument ignores historical data of when public opinion changed regarding the impeachment of Nixon and Clinton.
We haven't reached the point of hearing for Trump and they're still waiting on a few court decisions that will have a large affect on how those hearings go and how much of a defense Trump can put up.
With Clinton, he remained popular largely because he was always extremely popular and hiding an affair never really rose to the bar to shift public opinion.
Still, in 2000 Republicans took control of the White House.
People chastise you because you don't know what's going to happen so when you and @Frank Grimes pretend like you do everyone knows you're being dishonest.
That doesn't mean 20 GOP Senators will vote to remove Trump.
Just your reminder that this isn’t a political game changer and nobody really cares. Zero impact on the polls.
You have.... exactly $100 in Coli Cash now.
And if they don't and lose seats in purple states I'm all for it.
Dems are most likely taking the Senate in 2020 regardless of Impeachment or not. The number of GOP seats up vs the number of Dem seats up gives them favor to win.
I bet all I had that he was going to serve a full first term. So far, so good.You have.... exactly $100 in Coli Cash now.
Nah you right on this, not sure I neccesarily agree the media created them but they absolutely existThe problem is. . . The media is literally creating a large portion of people who won't publicly proclaim their support for Trump, but who will and have vote(d) for him secretly in the booth.
But since yall are stupid, you all just going to call me names.
You are correct, and are there are none.
No impact.
