Trump IMPEACHED by the US House; US Senate Trial Allows No New Witnesses & Acquits Trump

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They have to make up their minds, you're either running with the matter surrounding the Ukrainian call or you're putting together multiple articles for impeachment.

The indecisiveness is classic Democrat nervous to wield power.

The Ukraine call has spiraled out of and into other things. There's no downside to seeing where the other strings lead before you cut them.

Take the time to clarify what strings can be put together with as many facts as you can vs just randomly showing your hand isn't a good play.
 

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If Pence is involved in the crime and you only go after Trump, doesn't that play into the "your are playing politics to get Trump" narrative?
Nah. It's leaving Pence in ruins to be voted out in 2020 by default if Trump was in danger of being removed. Otherwise public opinion shifts towards Trump and Republicans favor, both the public opinion and Republicans accuse Dems of being overly aggressive by trying to overthrow the top 2 offices, and Trump uses this in his attempt to win re-election. You may get a few Senate Republicans to turn on Trump. Not a single one would turn on Pence in a Senate vote. The vote would be 51-49. Down the party lines automatically.
 

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Nah. It's leaving Pence in ruins to be voted out in 2020 by default if Trump was in danger of being removed. Otherwise public opinion shifts towards Trump and Republicans favor, both the public opinion and Republicans accuse Dems of being overly aggressive by trying to overthrow the top 2 offices, and Trump uses this in his attempt to win re-election. You may get a few Senate Republicans to turn on Trump. Not a single one would turn on Pence in a Senate vote. The vote would be 51-49. Down the party lines automatically.

But if Pence is obstructing your investigation into Trump to protect himself and you know this, how does that help you convict Trump for obstruction? You undermine your case to the Republican "jury". The Republicans are already floating the "it's a crime but doesn't rise to impeachment" and you don't impeach one of the people doing it.....so you are making their not guilty vote for them
 

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But if Pence is obstructing your investigation into Trump to protect himself and you know this, how does that help you convict Trump for obstruction? You undermine your case to the Republican "jury". The Republicans are already floating the "it's a crime but doesn't rise to impeachment" and you don't impeach one of the people doing it.....so you are making their not guilty vote for them
Trump wouldn't be convicted in the Senate on an Obstruction impeachment article so that doesn't matter.
 

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They have to make up their minds, you're either running with the matter surrounding the Ukrainian call or you're putting together multiple articles for impeachment.

The indecisiveness is classic Democrat nervous to wield power.

The more evidence that comes up and publicized it puts the Senate republicans in a bind for the trial. House as all the votes already Pelosi knows that. This is theater for the next step
 

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Okay but why should she bend to Republican demands

The Ukraine call has spiraled out of and into other things. There's no downside to seeing where the other strings lead before you cut them.

Take the time to clarify what strings can be put together with as many facts as you can vs just randomly showing your hand isn't a good play.

We knew the layers of the crimes were going to run beyond the surface but everyone kept saying that the Ukraine call was easier for the public to understand and get behind. If you didn't expect the public to follow along before, how do you expect for them to follow along when you start down the Ukraine/Russian oligarch rabbit hole?
 

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We knew the layers of the crimes were going to run beyond the surface but everyone kept saying that the Ukraine call was easier for the public to understand and get behind. If you didn't expect the public to follow along before, how do you expect for them to follow along when you start down the Ukraine/Russian oligarch rabbit hole?

Before we talk about layers incase you forgot I’m behind the people of flyover states being turned into mulch
 

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They have to make up their minds, you're either running with the matter surrounding the Ukrainian call or you're putting together multiple articles for impeachment.

The indecisiveness is classic Democrat nervous to wield power.
I think Pelosi is playing this right. They won’t go full vote until more people have come before the committees.

They are still going to be sending out subpoenas and holding hearings.

I don’t think they are worried about getting any info from the White House because they know nothing will come of it. Best to build a case then take it to trial.
 

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I think Pelosi is playing this right. They won’t go full vote until more people have come before the committees.

They are still going to be sending out subpoenas and holding hearings.

I don’t think they are worried about getting any info from the White House because they know nothing will come of it. Best to build a case then take it to trial.
Why are we playing this corny game?

Impeach the mothafukka!

Let the Republicans in the senate do their own homework. The public does not need a million facts to come to a conclusion.
 
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